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Adrenaline Rush 10-29-2009 12:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpr (Post 6657863)
I don't consider $101,200 + 15% tax a bit more. That is $27,000 more and on RS that means 3 cars. :haha:

This is comparing a 4 door sedan.

ur right. where is the RS6.
Don't think the RS6 is out in North America yet - would be a very close race though.

SpuGen 10-29-2009 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6657810)
get the gtr in the race, and it'll be over.
Spotted: GTR Fanboi.

Its a competition to see which is the fastest 4 door Sedan.
If you want to compare a GM Coupe vs the GTR, then it's already been done. The Corvette won. Get over it.

68style 10-29-2009 06:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6658469)
lol.. you just backed me up. Thanks.
(btw, i knew someone would say it, so technically i was using my head.)

my point earlier was that the requirement for this race is bias so that the gtr doesn't fit it.

For example, having 4 doors is a must instead of having a minimum of 6 cylinders or a minimum of a certain car weight.

In my opinion even though the gtr doesn't fit into that category as well as the evo x, but it makes more sense to have it over the evo.

more point was that gtr seems to be a better match up than the evo x, even though the gtr doesn't fit in the category as well.
No it doesn't back you up at all, I don't think the GTR is the world's best performing production car do you? The point was Cadillac claims they have made the world's fastest production sedan ie: 4-door... otherwise Bob Lutz could take a ZR-1 off the production line and destroy the CTS-V around the course and what would be the point of that? The point is that it is the fastest thing you can buy that can comfortably carry 4 or 5 people in it with 4 fully opening doors and 2 or 3 bags of golf clubs in the trunk and nothing Mercedes or BMW etc. make can beat it....

I mean seriously... the GTR? Why not line up an Enzo with it? Or a Veyron for that matter? Who cares about cost right, that's just another "exclusion"... those cars must have been excluded by Lutz and that is the whole reason he put the "4-door" thing in just so the CTS-V wouldn't have to face them and lose :rolleyes:

It's a category, just like Honda says it sells the most compacts and Toyota says their full-size pickup is better than anyone else's etc... Cadillac claims they have made the fastest SEDAN and so far they are right... why is this so hard for you to understand?

too_slow 10-29-2009 07:09 AM
I highly doubt a RS6 or a new M5 would be in the same price range as the CTS-V.. Hell, even the B7 S4 and M3 costs around 70k if you slap on NAv, and all the premium/tech packages..

CTS-V ftw fo sho..

oh, and orange7 is a dumbass.. stop posting.. Weren't you the guy that judges a car based on whether it offer fog lights? (or was that the q128378914728 guy)

death_blossom 10-29-2009 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by too_slow (Post 6658635)
I highly doubt a RS6 or a new M5 would be in the same price range as the CTS-V.. Hell, even the B7 S4 and M3 costs around 70k if you slap on NAv, and all the premium/tech packages..
that is exactly why GM is issuing out this challenge. they're trying to show that with 70k, they can beat (or match) the likes of more expensive sports sedans like the M5, etc.

I'm surprised that BMW did not provide an M3 sedan for this challenge as well. I think that would have a pretty good chance against the CTS-V.

shenmecar 10-29-2009 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by too_slow (Post 6658635)
I highly doubt a RS6 or a new M5 would be in the same price range as the CTS-V.. Hell, even the B7 S4 and M3 costs around 70k if you slap on NAv, and all the premium/tech packages..

CTS-V ftw fo sho..

oh, and orange7 is a dumbass.. stop posting.. Weren't you the guy that judges a car based on whether it offer fog lights? (or was that the q128378914728 guy)
ROFL

Jackygor 10-29-2009 09:48 AM
the track is wet...

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...lopnik-EVO.jpg

so far the time is

Second lap for Chris F. in the CTS-V 03:14:292
Second lap for Wes Siler in the Mitsubishi EVO 03:08:126
First lap for Chris F. in the CTS- V 03:18:050
First lap for Tom L in the Audi RS4 03:15:702

OHH SNAPP

RE-Jo 10-29-2009 09:54 AM
So the competition is held on a track instead of a 1/4mile strip eh?
Originally I thought this was gonna be a straight acceleration contest, didn't think the EVO would have a chance if so.

Jackygor 10-29-2009 10:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RE-Jo (Post 6658823)
So the competition is held on a track instead of a 1/4mile strip eh?
Originally I thought this was gonna be a straight acceleration contest, didn't think the EVO would have a chance if so.
Its this track

http://cache-06.gawkerassets.com/ass...icello_Map.jpg

mpr 10-29-2009 10:08 AM
http://twitter.com/Cadillac

Best lap time for Bob Lutz is 02:56:321. Smoking hot time. CTS-V


CTS-V is the new king of sedan!! even in wet.

Jackygor 10-29-2009 10:09 AM
run down for round 3

Top lap time for the thrid round goes to Aaron L in the CTS-V at 02:48:902
Best lap time for Bob Lutz is 02:56:321. Smoking hot time
Third lap for Bob Lutz is 02:56:732
First lap for Bob Lutz in the CTS-V is a hot 02:58:072. Beats Wes Siler's best by 10 seconds.
Second lap for Michael M in the BMW M5 03:08:989
First Lap for Aron L. CTS-V 02:48:902
Frist lap for Michael M. BMW M5 05:17:580

mpr 10-29-2009 10:10 AM
Top lap time for the thrid round goes to Aaron L in the CTS-V at 02:48:902

damn it. evo sucks

Qmx323 10-29-2009 10:11 AM
lots of straights on that track it seems. Looks like fun
Posted via RS Mobile

orange7 10-29-2009 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6658614)
No it doesn't back you up at all, I don't think the GTR is the world's best performing production car do you? The point was Cadillac claims they have made the world's fastest production sedan ie: 4-door... otherwise Bob Lutz could take a ZR-1 off the production line and destroy the CTS-V around the course and what would be the point of that? The point is that it is the fastest thing you can buy that can comfortably carry 4 or 5 people in it with 4 fully opening doors and 2 or 3 bags of golf clubs in the trunk and nothing Mercedes or BMW etc. make can beat it....

I mean seriously... the GTR? Why not line up an Enzo with it? Or a Veyron for that matter? Who cares about cost right, that's just another "exclusion"... those cars must have been excluded by Lutz and that is the whole reason he put the "4-door" thing in just so the CTS-V wouldn't have to face them and lose :rolleyes:

It's a category, just like Honda says it sells the most compacts and Toyota says their full-size pickup is better than anyone else's etc... Cadillac claims they have made the fastest SEDAN and so far they are right... why is this so hard for you to understand?

but it's a geee teeeaaa arrreee... :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

Jackygor 10-29-2009 11:39 AM
overall time

CTS-V (John Heinricy): 2:46:560
CTS-V (Brian Redman): 2:49:183
CTS-V (Aaron Link): 2:48:902
CTS-V (Lawrence Ulrich): 2:53:026
BMW M3 (Michael Cooper): 2.50:424
CTS-V (Jack Baruth): 2:51:153
CTS-V (Bob Lutz): 2:56:321
Evo (Wes Siler): 3:08.126
BMW M5 (Michael Mainwald): 3:08:989
CTS-V (Chris Fairman.): 3:14:292
Audi RS4 (Tom Loder): 3:15:702
Jaguar XF (Archan Basu): 3:16.670

3rd car overall is not bad, considering the competition it was up against

mpr 10-29-2009 11:48 AM
BMW M3 (Michael Cooper): 2.50:424


wow! makes me wanna buy a M3 now. then sc it to 550 hp. or gtr. or cts-v :cry:

shenmecar 10-29-2009 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Qmx323 (Post 6658862)
lots of straights on that track it seems. Looks like fun
Posted via RS Mobile
CTS-V + straights. Win.

asahai69 10-29-2009 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 6658992)
CTS-V + straights. Win.
it did the "ring" in under 8 minutes. so it can corner aswell

GabAlmighty 10-29-2009 10:37 PM
http://www.bryanappleyard.com/blog/u...lls-742039.bmp

maxx 10-29-2009 10:59 PM
no doubt: the Caddy is amazing for the money you pay.

PiuYi 10-30-2009 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GabAlmighty (Post 6659992)
bahahhaaa

to be honest, nobody's willing to give the CTS-V credit cuz its an american car
its a damn good car (performance-wise) ppl, admit it

altho the interior is another story...

thumper 10-30-2009 06:25 AM
what is wrong with the interior?

http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/u...v_interior.jpg

Supafly 10-30-2009 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by thumper (Post 6660258)
everything.

i find the steering wheel way to cluttered and confusing....same with the center console.

I personally like the clean sleek look with not so many buttons and lights everywhere....its a car, not a spaceship.

thumper 10-30-2009 06:39 AM
really... ugh most of the reviews i've read seem to favor it :confused:

what other interiors are you comparing to?

twixxer 10-30-2009 06:48 AM
i think the interior looks really good, better than any previous caddy interiors.


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