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The_AK 11-04-2009 08:37 PM

Grades curved
 
Hello, so I've never understood what profs mean that the grades will be curved. How does it work exactly? :S
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woozzle 11-04-2009 08:47 PM

that means grades are distributed on a normal distribution curve, where there are a few freaks of nature who get 100% and the few dumbasses on the other side who will fail miserably. In the middle, you will get the majority where they get AVERAGE marks...not necessarily 50%.

CRS 11-04-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by woozzle (Post 6668345)
that means grades are distributed on a normal distribution curve, where there are a few freaks of nature who get 100% and the few dumbasses on the other side who will fail miserably. In the middle, you will get the majority where they get AVERAGE marks...not necessarily 50%.

Basically, instead of assigning a direct correlation between % and grade (like say kids with 90+ get an A, they will curve it (so shift it either higher or lower depending on the avg) accordingly so that it becomes a normal distribution.

So if the class avg was like 20% for the course, the curve will cause a shift up and everyone who got 20% would get a C+ instead of a F (assuming that C+ is the supposed avg grade for the course). And so kids who get 40% would must likely get an A even though technically they failed the course.

The curve basically compensates and gives the prof an ideal number of As, Bs, Cs, and Fs so that the course isn't overly hard or overly easy.

misteranswer 11-04-2009 09:30 PM

Basically

Your grade depends on the grades of the other students in the class. How it depends, is up to the instructor/professor.

G 11-04-2009 09:35 PM

Basically

your either gonna do well, or your fucked.

wuuhoo 11-04-2009 09:45 PM

lol are you hoping for a bell curve in math?

dont worry, same boat. I need a boost

The_AK 11-04-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wuuhoo (Post 6668469)
lol are you hoping for a bell curve in math?

dont worry, same boat. I need a boost

nope not math, at least not yet, im averaging at about 77%
im concerned about buec 232, haha (yes, i know, i'm taking statistics yet here i am asking how the curve works)

StealthFighter 11-04-2009 11:45 PM

don't worry buec 232 was confusing as hell when I took it.

If the class average is above your 77, you get fucked.
If the class average is below your 77, celebrate.

CRS 11-05-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthFighter (Post 6668698)
don't worry buec 232 was confusing as hell when I took it.

If the class average is above your 77, you get fucked.
If the class average is below your 77, celebrate.

Ughhh, but that's his math class mark. Not his Buec 232.

Reading failll

underscore 11-08-2009 07:46 PM

the curve is generally called the bell curve because of the shape, if the class average is say 60 but the prof wants a 70 average, the grades get shifted so the average mark is 70. This benefits people near the old average the most, as you are on the steepest part of the curve. The ones at the higher or lower ends get helped less as they are on flatter part of the curve.

shenmecar 11-25-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6668376)
Basically, instead of assigning a direct correlation between % and grade (like say kids with 90+ get an A, they will curve it (so shift it either higher or lower depending on the avg) accordingly so that it becomes a normal distribution.

So if the class avg was like 20% for the course, the curve will cause a shift up and everyone who got 20% would get a C+ instead of a F (assuming that C+ is the supposed avg grade for the course). And so kids who get 40% would must likely get an A even though technically they failed the course.

The curve basically compensates and gives the prof an ideal number of As, Bs, Cs, and Fs so that the course isn't overly hard or overly easy.

I've never had a class where this curve thing happened, maybe because my BCIT program is too straightforward.

Anyways, my question is, according to your example, for those kids who do get 40% and an A (assuming that 40% is the full marks), what will show up on their transcript? will it be "40% A", or get bumped up to "100% A"?

underscore 11-25-2009 01:09 PM

well if you had an average mark before, say the old average was 40%, and the prof curves it for a 70% average, you now have a 70% and your transcript will read 70%.

It isnt the maximum marks that gets changed, the % just gets scaled according to the bell curve.

d1 11-25-2009 01:23 PM

My transcript doesn't show the percentage I got; only my grade is on there.

CRS 11-25-2009 02:30 PM

Grades are representative of percentage.

tiger_handheld 11-25-2009 04:19 PM

if your prof id marking on a curve, just make sure you sit beside a really dumb person.

LC21 11-25-2009 05:20 PM

damn curved grades is rigged than....

The_AK 11-25-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger_handheld (Post 6700210)
if your prof id marking on a curve, just make sure you sit beside a really dumb person.

Lol explain
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tiger_handheld 11-25-2009 08:49 PM

if you a C+ student, and the kid you sit beside is C- student, he will drop the class avg. when the instructor scales - he will get a C , and you will get a B ...

misteranswer 11-25-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 6699945)
I've never had a class where this curve thing happened, maybe because my BCIT program is too straightforward.

Anyways, my question is, according to your example, for those kids who do get 40% and an A (assuming that 40% is the full marks), what will show up on their transcript? will it be "40% A", or get bumped up to "100% A"?

A place like UBC where the percentage is shown, the percentage grade will also be bumped up. Most schools though, do not show a percentage. In fact, other than BCIT and UBC, I know of no other school that does.

1337 11-25-2009 08:59 PM

Using the bell curve can work for you or against you. I find that it does make the course hard to fail, but also super hard to get good grades (unless average grades C+/B- is what satisfies you). I got 84% once for a course and came out with a C+.

The_AK 11-25-2009 09:09 PM

I went to bcit before and grades weren't scaled for any of the courses. Thank god my phil class is getting scaled, current average is pretty low, I got pretty decent :)
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