Just to clarify a point: Muslim isn't a race.

Well you know what I mean.

its about the exodus right? there's been reports by the BBC and papers by european profs that said the exodus was due to poverty for everyone there, not just christians but the muslims as well.. however the christians had more money to get out. that as well as the violence brought upon by israel (remember they also forced an exodus of christians etc)

however there seems to be another argument which blames the ottoman empire, etc, this argument is taken up more by america and israeli news media etc

so its not really a matter of "educating myself" but rather a "who do you want to believe" as there's two sides to the argument which seems to be British Scholars or America/Israel

federal popular initiative started with 100,000 minimum signatures leads to national referendum. the initiative needed a double-majority to win and did. seems extremely democratic to me, more so than what we have here in Canada where the popular vote isn't necessarily the winning vote.

not that i'm agreeing with the initiative itself, mind you, but i do find their democratic process rather fascinating.

my brother who is super religious (greek orthodox) went on a religious honeymoon to jordan, egypt, israel, etc.... and said that when he was in jordan our spiritual father (a bishop in an area of greece) was being spat on by zionists. alot of people seem to forget that there is a huge christian arab population... they just usally automatically assume muslim.

Islam is a violent religion. I must be the only one who thinks this goes beyond skin color.

ah, yeah the arab jews experience racism as well from the european jews which is ridiculous since arabs are historically the first to become jews. hell they were researching a weapon they got from south africa that they wanted to use to target arabs.. regardless that it would kill their own

somewhat of an update

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8385893.stm



long read ;)

did you actually read my post?

You're one stupid person.

That's what I'm trying to explain to StylinRed and michael, who are really quick to defend anything Islam related without actually looking inward and asking the question 'are we also to blame' .

The two are like my mother who quickly jump to comparing christian faults to muslim faults almost immediately.
Stop that fucking shit, you're not some backward village people , are you?

Be open minded and ready to take criticism and when you're criticized, look how you can fucking improve your self as a muslim and NOT try to find a way to say "but look dood , christians do it too"
I'm so tired of that shit.

I'm not surprised.. I wouldn't want to live with those motherfuckers either.
I've seen the shit they do. They live in England, a Christian nation, and they try to impose their own laws onto the people..
The Quran it self states that if one is living in a foreign land, with foreign laws and customs, he/she is to abide by them.

If I were in charge, I would kick those faggots and send them back to pakistan or whereever they fucking came from.

They hold up signs that say 'england will burn'...
YOU'RE LIVING IN ENGLAND ASSHOLE!

Back in durka durka land he'd be hanged for saying shit like that..


I guess my case in point is.. don't ever, under any circumstances give freedom to a bunch of retarded apes.

They need to stop allowing immigration from middle eastern countries.

I don't think the European "hate" muslim or middle-eastern people..it is just that these immigrants often come to their land, but instead of contributing and abiding to the country and its culture, they come here trying to change someone else culture into their own. (Look at Canada, we can't even have christmas tree in some places because it offends these people.)
To top it off, the majority of the middle-eastern population in Europe are refugees that leeches off the system instead of contributing to it.

So the vote turn out really isn't surprising. No one likes to have their culture and heritage eroded by some group of immigrants coming here seeking refugees.

If you want to stay at someone's house, you follow their rule. If you don't like the rule, move somewhere else.

The reason why Europe has a large influx of Indians and middle-easterns, asians is due to their colonial past... they went to these nations to leech off of them as a result (mainly with Indians) they're let into europe. unlike the colonialst most of the immigrants aren't "leeches"

Europe is just reaping what it sowed

yeah but there were a lot less people to kill back then.

and i bet if christians had nukes back then, there would be a lot more dead people hahaha.

as time went on, there were a lot more of us, and we had weapons that were a lot more efficient at... well, doing what weapons do.



i bet if a crusade happened with today's technology, they would wipe out more people in one crusade than all wars in all of mankind combined.

you know what though, i don't really fucking care. I have come to accept that we humans, as much as we want world peace, or whatever, will never be able to achieve that until the day we have learnt to master ourselves, and become our own gods. We still obey the our natural instincts, we still obey the millions of years of evolutionary programming instilled in us.

we're the apex predators of earth, our world. we are the tip and edge of the sword, we are bred killing machines. humans are in the business of destruction, it is the destiny of our race. to obliterate our enemies, and when they run out, we kill each other. Until the day we can reprogram ourselves, and, like i said, become our own gods, and worship ourselves, we're going to keep killing each other, or whatever is out there to kill.

as one person, we're not very good at causing trouble. but when banded together, we love destruction. and it's too bad, cuz we're socially programmed to be very sociable and want to be part of groups.


oh and as for the topic, u know what, i don't really fucking care cuz they're on the other side of the world, i'd rather spend my effort trying to figure out how to get surround sound working while playing left 4 dead 2 on my big screen tv, than worrying about a few more churches going up with moon crescents on top of them instead of crosses.

^add me to steam.