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12-02-2009, 12:14 PM
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#26 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN  a person making minimum wage can barely afford to park there for one hour
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this is sad  | If you're working min wage, why are you driving to downtown?
Why not take transit that is cheaper and has no parking fees?
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12-02-2009, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CRS If you're working min wage, why are you driving to downtown? | Why work downtown at all? There's lots of minimum wage jobs in the city.
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12-02-2009, 12:17 PM
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#28 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by 7seven Thank-god for condo parking spots downtown, that and my work covers my monthly parking ($320/month) at a pretty central dt location. | Hey I wouldn't surprised if one of your condo spots downtown will come with a price now. A certain someone we know needs a new tv haha j/k
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12-02-2009, 01:20 PM
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at least we dont have NY prices.... yet
For a permanent parking space in Manhattan, NY it costs $225,000USD !
and $125-$200 a day for daily parking at lots
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12-02-2009, 01:29 PM
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12-02-2009, 01:31 PM
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#31 | | How I Mod your mother
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Welcome to Vancouver, the city of disappointment
I've stopped caring. In the end we pay for every little thing somehow
"The proposed hikes would cover the $1.8 million lost during the Olympics due to parking restrictions"
He forgot to add the part about putting more money into the government's pocket
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12-02-2009, 01:35 PM
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#32 | | 2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
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Believe it or not, that's exactly what they want people to do. Quote:
Originally Posted by hotjoint If I have to go down then I'm carpooling or taking transit. $6 for 1 hour and until 10pm now. Such a fuckin rip off... | | |
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12-02-2009, 01:40 PM
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I can see where it comes come. I support this increase if it means no increase in property tax. Parking in downtown is NOT a necessity. People chooses to pay $6/hour for convenience. No 1 points a gun and say u have to park there or else. If u can't afford it, there r alternatives. Property tax on the other hand is mandatory and must be paid. As a result I don't think it's justified for everyone to subsidize soneone else's convenience.
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12-02-2009, 01:41 PM
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12-02-2009, 01:48 PM
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they already doing that on top of the hours and $$$ rate for parking.
private property tax goes up 2% on top of the bc assestment, which was done at the height of the housing prices)
all in an effort to pay off the overspending of the olympics. Quote:
Originally Posted by bengy They should increase property taxes. If you want to live in the most busiest part of the city, you should pay for it. | | |
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12-02-2009, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hotjoint Glad I don't ever go downtown. I avoid that place like H1N1. If I have to go down then I'm carpooling or taking transit. $6 for 1 hour and until 10pm now. Such a fuckin rip off... | I have the same mentality but instead of Downtown it's Richmond. Bad drivers, hongers, C-Lai's and bad-roads.  | |
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12-02-2009, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by !SG private property tax goes up 2% on top of the bc assestment, which was done at the height of the housing prices)
all in an effort to pay off the overspending of the olympics. | I really hate this argument.
We're getting a ton of great things out of this, and much of it not paid for by tax-payers dollars as the media makes us believe. There are public-private partnerships, the sale of the Olympic village should cover all the condos as well as the community centre, dock, park, ... :
- expanded sea-to-sky highway
- community centre, dock, park, ... at the Olympic village
- community centre in Richmond (converted speed oval)
- new sky-train line
- many bridge/road improvement
- bums kicked out of DTES
Nevermind the economic impact:
- more jobs created here as construction boomed (more income tax)
- more people immigrating here (more real estate, more property taxes, more local consumption)
- tons of temporary jobs created for the Olympics (more income tax)
- tons of tourism (more local consumption)
How much tax dollars has this generated that otherwise would not have? Would Vancouver be booming? Would as many people have immigrated here? ...
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12-02-2009, 02:52 PM
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#38 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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$6/h and until 10pm.... wtf seriously thats too excessive i think
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12-02-2009, 04:36 PM
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#39 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by taylor192
How much tax dollars has this generated that otherwise would not have? Would Vancouver be booming? Would as many people have immigrated here? ...
| You do realize the more "booming" Vancouver does,the cost of living also goes up.
With the way our government is taxing the shit out of everything nowadays,pretty soon,in Vancouver,there will be no middle class,either your poor or your rich.
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12-02-2009, 04:59 PM
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#40 | | The "You'd Know" Moderator
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Originally Posted by carisear *waits for impactx to post*
"alright, so who of you voted for gregor?" | lol. or, who misses Sam Sullivan now?
To put it into perspective, daytime parking (from 8am to 11pm) in Central (downtown), Hong Kong costs CA$2.7 an hour to a maximum of CA$20.
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12-02-2009, 05:09 PM
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#41 | | 2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
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You are assuming the population is in the steady state.. with the federal government set to recognize foreign credentials, the income of people will go up. True, poor will move away but there will be plenty of people replacing them. The bar for being "rich" will move higher, and there will always be a normal distribution over time. The government just have to keep on accepting people with net wealth of >3 million CAD, there will always be a middle class.. it just happens that the middle class might have net worth of >3 mill.
Vast majority of people are always in the happy medium. Quote:
Originally Posted by spyker You do realize the more "booming" Vancouver does,the cost of living also goes up.
With the way our government is taxing the shit out of everything nowadays,pretty soon,in Vancouver,there will be no middle class,either your poor or your rich. |
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12-02-2009, 05:44 PM
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you have to admit, the original estimate was way way way off for the olympics. just seems like budgetting is always way off. im sure if it was at least a realistic figure that is within reason to the actual estimated cost, most of us wont feel like we just got ripped off.
its like being told the car will cost you xxx amount, then when u walk in to actually go pay, the price magically went up for the same unchanged car. not even talking about hidden costs. =/
the cost spent on the village rushed to be finished was even said to be hopeful at "breaking even" after the sale, after the olympics.
costs of security for the olympics were way off...
cost over runs are expected, but even you have to admit, they really did hire an idiot to estimate the original cost, compared to the actual cost. Quote:
Originally Posted by taylor192 I really hate this argument.
We're getting a ton of great things out of this, and much of it not paid for by tax-payers dollars as the media makes us believe. There are public-private partnerships, the sale of the Olympic village should cover all the condos as well as the community centre, dock, park, ... :
- expanded sea-to-sky highway
- community centre, dock, park, ... at the Olympic village
- community centre in Richmond (converted speed oval)
- new sky-train line
- many bridge/road improvement
- bums kicked out of DTES
Nevermind the economic impact:
- more jobs created here as construction boomed (more income tax)
- more people immigrating here (more real estate, more property taxes, more local consumption)
- tons of temporary jobs created for the Olympics (more income tax)
- tons of tourism (more local consumption)
How much tax dollars has this generated that otherwise would not have? Would Vancouver be booming? Would as many people have immigrated here? ... | | |
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12-02-2009, 06:16 PM
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#43 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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If the city actually told people the truth about how much the olympics were actually going to cost,do you think anyone would have voted "yes" to the olympics.
There's no way the government would do a project this big without knowing exactly how much something like this would cost.
The original number for the budget was just bullshit,nothing but smoke & mirrors,sort of like a massive super sale at a electronic store,but when you get inside,only a few things are for sale to lure you in,the rest of the stuff is regular price.
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12-02-2009, 06:59 PM
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#44 | | Everyone wants a piece of R S...
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Whats next 24hr meter parking!!?
Once the time goes up, it will never come back down. parking was nice while it lasted...
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12-02-2009, 07:14 PM
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#45 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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What a bunch of fucking bullshit.
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12-02-2009, 07:16 PM
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#46 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by asian_speedster Whats next 24hr meter parking!!? | just give it some time,it will happen.
pretty soon,nothing will be free in this city anymore.
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12-02-2009, 07:48 PM
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#47 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by spyker just give it some time,it will happen.
pretty soon,nothing will be free in this city anymore. | When was anything free? 
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12-02-2009, 09:09 PM
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#48 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by 6insomnia9 When was anything free? | I remember free parking after 6pm and free parking on the weekends.
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12-04-2009, 09:19 PM
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#49 | | Banned By Establishment
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political posturing.
When they change their minds, like it wasn't already planned, to $4, people will rejoice because it could have been worse.
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12-06-2009, 01:46 AM
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#50 | | I am grateful grapefruit
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In Central London, there's the Congestion Charge - so if you want to drive in during the day, you have to pay £8 PER DAY. if forget to pay by midnight of they day you entered, you pay £10 the following day. if you forget to pay the following day, you pay a penalty charge, which is like £25 I think.
I live IN the congestion zone, so if I were to buy a car, I would get a 90% discount.
I'm still thinkin of getting a car here so I can drive around the UK/Europe for a few months before I leave, but at £32 a month for a congestion charge, plus another £40 a month for a residential permit, kind of makes you rethink a car.
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