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12-02-2009, 06:26 AM
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| Parking rates and hours to increase
http://www.news1130.com/more.jsp?con...02_094754_5120 Downtown parking will cost $6 an hour
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - The City of Vancouver's budget woes could mean it will cost you more to plug the meter while parking on the street. We're acting as meter maid this morning, breaking the news to drivers.
The reaction is not so pretty among people in the downtown core about raising the rates to six dollars per hour and extending the hours until 10:00 p.m. This man tells us he already tries to avoid parking downtown, if he can help it, and will opt for transit, "I did that last week and saved quite a bit of money. I mean, are we any less or more expensive than other cities?"
Charles Gauthier with the Downtown Vancouver Business Improvement Association and he actually likes the proposals, "It's a commodity and it needs to be priced accordingly and we'd much rather see user fees than an increase in property taxes." He doesn't think the rates will keep people from downtown. Street parking is supposed to be short term, with plenty of other parking and transit options. The proposed hikes would cover the $1.8 million lost during the Olympics due to parking restrictions.
feel free to fail me if you agree this is total BS, up till 10pm are u fucken kidding me?
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looks like its either this or increased property tax
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12-02-2009, 07:25 AM
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man as if it aint expensivve enough
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12-02-2009, 07:35 AM
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Oh well. Bring an extra friend to help chip in for parking.
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12-02-2009, 07:42 AM
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u gotta be fukn kidding me, its like they're leading a path of destruction with housing/parking/transit prices skyrocketing the area is going to end up like Chicago
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12-02-2009, 07:53 AM
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12-02-2009, 07:57 AM
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a person making minimum wage can barely afford to park there for one hour
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12-02-2009, 08:02 AM
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Extend the parking meters until 10:00PM? Bull!!
Although they still can't beat Shaw Tower for $6 for half an hr.
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12-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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park at oakridge and canada line to DT FTW!
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12-02-2009, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by shenmecar  Extend the parking meters until 10:00PM? Bull!!
Although they still can't beat Shaw Tower for $6 for half an hr. | right now its what? 8pm i think?
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12-02-2009, 08:36 AM
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Just means I'll go downtown even less, and when I do I'll use my bike even more.
I have found a great trick for free parking downtown:
Some lots have numbered spots and "no display" paid tickets. So as long as you pay for the space, you don't need a ticket....
Think about this: For places like ScotiaTheatre where the parking underneath is $7 for all-night. People see the first movie, pay for parking, then leave. If you take their spot, its paid for the entire night. Just wait for someone to leave, or park on the top level where there's usually more turnover.
Same applies to Costco. There's so much turnover in that lot, and most pay for 2 hrs, that you can park anywhere and never get a ticket.
If you know of other lots like this, please post them.
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12-02-2009, 10:33 AM
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They should increase property taxes. If you want to live in the most busiest part of the city, you should pay for it.
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12-02-2009, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy They should increase property taxes. If you want to live in the most busiest part of the city, you should pay for it. | This won't happen. There's still many old-school owners in the nicer areas of town, who's houses have tripled in value, and they cannot afford the property tax increase. Those old-school owners actually vote in elections, unlike the young yuppies in BMW driving downtown, so politicians will tax voters accordingly. If you don't like it, vote.
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12-02-2009, 11:11 AM
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With meter parking possibly going up, my natural inclination is to ask, are these rates similar to other major cities?
For Toronto, I found that The Toronto Parking Authority is a local Board of the City of Toronto which owns and operates the system of Municipal off-street parking lots (‘Green P’) and the on-street metered parking.
The rates are:
Metered spaces are either $1.00, $1.50, $2.00 or $3.50 per hour depending on the area of the City in which they are located. Rates are posted on the machine or meter.
So $6 seems a little excessive to me. For the minimum wage earners or front line staff, this would be terrible.
Like Taylor posted, you gotta find loopholes or drive less in downtown.
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12-02-2009, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN a person making minimum wage can barely afford to park there for one hour
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this is sad |
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I think it's getting a little ridiculous if someone making min wage can barely afford to even park in downtown...
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12-02-2009, 11:17 AM
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Glad I don't ever go downtown. I avoid that place like H1N1. If I have to go down then I'm carpooling or taking transit. $6 for 1 hour and until 10pm now. Such a fuckin rip off...
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12-02-2009, 11:18 AM
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6 DOLLARS A FUCKING HOUR!??!!?
WTTTTTTTTTTTTTF
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12-02-2009, 11:23 AM
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a fucking meter makes more money than me.
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12-02-2009, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hotjoint Glad I don't ever go downtown. I avoid that place like H1N1. If I have to go down then I'm carpooling or taking transit. $6 for 1 hour and until 10pm now. Such a fuckin rip off... | werd thx god i got a free parking space in my building
but still, still 3-4 blocks away from the main robson
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12-02-2009, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 This won't happen. There's still many old-school owners in the nicer areas of town, who's houses have tripled in value, and they cannot afford the property tax increase. Those old-school owners actually vote in elections, unlike the young yuppies in BMW driving downtown, so politicians will tax voters accordingly. If you don't like it, vote. | Well if you can't afford to live there, sell. Look on the bright side, you can now sell for triple what you bought and can finally buy yourself a nice property in good old quiet Langley or Abbotsford  | |
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12-02-2009, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS Like Taylor posted, you gotta find loopoles or drive less in downtown. | Another "loophole":
If it costs $6/hr to park downtown then how many hours of parking is equal to one ticket:
Expired meter: $35 or 6 hrs
Permit only: $50 or 8 hrs
Do you think you can get away with parking at meters and not paying for 6 hours?
Do you think you can get away with parking for 8 hours in an permit only location?
Maybe not 6 or 8 hours in a row, yet an hour here, and hour there, probably, and it all adds up.
Consider that not everywhere is very well patrolled by parking enforcement. The Vancouver Sun has an excellent map showing the most ticketed locations: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/mos...ted-areas.html
Lets look at permit parking tickets at Robson/Denman: There were 766 over 4 years. That's 4/week. You could probably park here for several hours and not get a ticket.
Lets say you want to eat at Hons on Robson. Look at expired meters at Robson and Jervis. There were 2052 over 4 years, or about 8/week, or 1 a day. You could probably park here for a few hours and not get a ticket.
As long as you avoid the areas with the biggest circles, you could probably never pay and they few tickets you will get, will be easily paid with the savings from never paying for parking.
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12-02-2009, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bengy Well if you can't afford to live there, sell. Look on the bright side, you can now sell for triple what you bought and can finally buy yourself a nice property in good old quiet Langley or Abbotsford | Who wants to live out there? Gross.
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12-02-2009, 11:48 AM
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Thank-god for condo parking spots downtown, that and my work covers my monthly parking ($320/month) at a pretty central dt location. Quote: 
You could soon be paying more for parking in Vancouver.
The city is looking into boosting slumping revenue by charging more per hour for meter parking, as well as extending street meter hours.
A report was presented to council Tuesday afternoon and will be voted on in a couple weeks. If it goes through, parking meters will be in effect until 10 p.m. seven days a week starting Jan. 1.
Currently, the hours are 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. everyday.
Parking meter hour plan
The city says extending parking meter hours until 10 p.m. would improve turnaround on street parking and "reflect market demand." The report states there is a growing demand for parking beyond current hours.
The study found there is little incentive for people to move their car after 8 p.m. when the parking is free.
Here's how Vancouver compares to other cities:
* Richmond 8 a.m. to 9 p.m.
* Burnaby Varies by area, up to 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.
* White Rock Varies by area and season, up to 10 a.m. to 2 a.m.
* Portland Varies by area, up to 8 a.m. to 10 p.m.
* Calgary 9 a.m. to 6 p.m.
* Toronto 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.
* San Francisco Varies by area, up to 7 a.m. to 11 p.m.
* Chicago Varies by area, up to 24 hours
* New York 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
* Seattle 8 a.m. to 6 p.m.
Extension of parking hours is expected to increase gross revenue by $3.1 million annually starting in 2010.
More money at the meter
In addition to paying for more hours, the city is also proposing a hike in how much drivers will pay per hour at the meter.
The recommended change would see meter rates rise about 8.8 per cent in 2010 -- from $2.04 to $2.22 per hour.
In some areas along the city's central business district, drivers would pay $6 an hour for street parking. Rates would also jump along Coal Harbour, Denman and Davie streets, Gastown, Yaletown and the area around BC and GM Place.
The bump would see a revenue increase of $1.8 million for 2010, and $2.45 million every year after.
Increased meter rates would begin April 1, and take place predominately in areas where more than 85 per cent of parking spots are occupied.
The city says higher meter rates will reduce long-term parking usage by people working in the area, and lower traffic congestion "created by drivers circulating around the block looking for parking spaces."
Extras
City staff are also recommending the purchase and installation of 150 new parking meters and 20 new pay stations for installation in new pay parking areas in 2010.
The city says it would need to add 11 full-time positions to its on-street parking program to facilitate all the proposed changes, including two coin collectors, six bylaw enforcement officers and one customer service representative.
Consultations
City staff consulted with local business improvement associations on the proposal. Of those polled, two expressed objection or provided alternative options.
The West Broadway Business Improvement Association said extending the hours would bring an increased cost to residents and customers that use the busy retail and restaurant district after 8 p.m. -- and may push them to other areas of the city.
The Downtown Vancouver Business Association (DVBIA) supports both the rate increases and the extension of hours.
"The worry is that you would scare people away from coming downtown because it's too much money, but I don't think that's the case," executive director Charles Gauthier told ctvbc.ca.
Gauthier said on-street parking downtown isn't meant for long-term parking and shouldn't infringe upon anyone's visit, especially now that the Canada Line makes transit more accessible into downtown.
"Plus, death and taxes are inevitable."
Councillor Raymond Louie sounded receptive to the idea Tuesday.
"We are severely-challenged as far as part of this operating budget for 2010, and we've been underpricing, I think, in certain areas of our city," he told CTV News.
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12-02-2009, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 If you know of other lots like this, please post them. | I know a few people who don't live dt, but changed their addresses on their license and a couple bills to friend's or work addresses located dt so that they could get a residential parking permit dt for $65/year.
Warning tho, if you get pulled over or into an accident, you might run into issues with police and/or ICBC for having an improper residential address on your license.
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12-02-2009, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN a person making minimum wage can barely afford to park there for one hour
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this is sad | they work an hour to park for an hour lol
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12-02-2009, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 7seven I know a few people who don't live dt, but changed their addresses on their license and a couple bills to friend's or work addresses located dt so that they could get a residential parking permit dt for $65/year.
Warning tho, if you get pulled over or into an accident, you might run into issues with police and/or ICBC for having an improper residential address on your license. | That's too big a risk.
My friend bought a permit for his car for the street. He moves his car to the street and allows me to park underground when I visit. Otherwise his friends rarely visit cause its so hard to find parking near Denman.
Not as convenient, yet not as risky.
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