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heleu 12-21-2009 04:21 PM
Toyota slips up.
 
http://www.economist.com/displaystor...ry_id=15064411

http://www.economist.com/opinion/dis...ry_id=15065913

Two very interesting articles about Toyota and how they have messed a few things up in the past few years.

"growth at any cost!"

On the other hand, Mr. Toyoda seems like he's a real car enthusiast. Maybe we'll see the resurrection of the MR2, Celica, and Supra? Sadly, the sportiest Toyota these days is the Matrix XRS.

Onassis 12-21-2009 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by heleu (Post 6737765)
[url] Sadly, the sportiest Toyota these days is the Matrix XRS.
LFA ?

AVS_Racing 12-21-2009 06:46 PM
ISF?

fishing666 12-21-2009 07:01 PM
toyota is not lexus.

don't even try failing me

Culture_Vulture 12-21-2009 07:45 PM
why not?

Leopold Stotch 12-21-2009 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishing666 (Post 6737960)
toyota is not lexus.

don't even try failing me
Quote:
Originally Posted by Physixx (Post 6738006)
why not?
yea

anti-vip 12-21-2009 08:00 PM
yea

Jsunu 12-22-2009 07:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishing666 (Post 6737960)
toyota is not lexus.

don't even try failing me
Please explain your logic,

Also, i tried failing you and i SUCCEEDED!

!Aznboi128 12-22-2009 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Leopold Stotch (Post 6738019)
yea
Quote:
Originally Posted by g_i_g_g_i_t_y (Post 6738025)
yea
http://www.gimmik.net/terrenteller/P.../OH%20YEAH.jpg

heleu 12-22-2009 08:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Onassis (Post 6737783)
LFA ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVS_Racing (Post 6737942)
ISF?
I agree with both;

But LFA is limited production, we'll be lucky if we ever see one.

ISF is a fast sedan, but no sports car. Sorry, anything with four doors isn't a sports car in my books.

shenmecar 12-22-2009 08:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by heleu (Post 6738559)
I agree with both;

But LFA is limited production, we'll be lucky if we ever see one.

ISF is a fast sedan, but no sports car. Sorry, anything with four doors isn't a sports car in my books.
You've never heard of the term "Sports Sedan"? C63 AMG? M3 Sedan? CSX Type S? Lan Evo? STi (before the awful hatch)?

!LittleDragon 12-22-2009 09:47 AM
I've been saying Toyota's been slipping for years as they crept their way up to the top. I rent a lot of cars and have noticed their build quality slipping over the years. Nobody gets to the top without cutting corners!

General rule of thumb... if it has more than 2 doors and more than 2 seats then it's not a sports car. Most have open tops but not really necessary.

monkeywrench 12-22-2009 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by heleu (Post 6738559)
I agree with both;

But LFA is limited production, we'll be lucky if we ever see one.

ISF is a fast sedan, but no sports car. Sorry, anything with four doors isn't a sports car in my books.
and a matrix fagwagon is a sport car?

!LittleDragon 12-22-2009 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EVOX (Post 6738750)
and a matrix fagwagon is a sport car?
No, sporty and sports car are two different things but he's right, it's the sportiest thing they sell right now.

hk20000 12-22-2009 12:09 PM
Toyota was trying to get to the top, then it can go back to doing what it does best, making boring slow but bulletproof cars.

If anything their PR has been doing a great job not to do anything at all so the general consumers (i.e. people outside RS) thinks that Toyota is the most logical buy with no frills and no fuss.

they may have crappier interior over the years but they still work pretty much like clockwork. And that's what people want.

wasabisashimi 12-22-2009 03:10 PM
Sporty toyota.LOL http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagam...res/FF/ff5.jpg
http://www.japanesesportcars.com/gal.../vitz_rear.jpg

crazyazn 12-22-2009 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 6738591)
You've never heard of the term "Sports Sedan"? C63 AMG? M3 Sedan? CSX Type S? Lan Evo? STi (before the awful hatch)?
Gotta thank you for that :haha:


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