Need to build office computer for my boss, help

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by John

To the best of my knowledge, all 1066 MHz DDR2 RAM requires more voltage than the stock 1.8V. There is no MB that I know of that will automatically increase RAM voltage to a value greater than 1.8V, based on SPD information.

Here is a typical pic of 1066 MHz DDR2 RAM. Note the recommended voltage to achieve this specified performance.


I would click "FAIL" for you if you would only re-enable the button!

You see, that's why I don't bother enabling fail on my account. Because anyone who would fail me would just make an idiot out of themselves for being wrong anyway.

If a board officially supports DDR2 1066 ram (like the 785G I recommended), it will run the correct voltage determined by the SPD.

[wasabisashimi]

i think skinnypup is right about the ram. If MB supports it, why would i need to temper with voltage. It should be plug and play.

Will there be a dramatic change from Athlon II X4 620 to phenom II X4 925? Wouldnt mind saving more dollars

[goo3]

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

Office computer usage: word processing, excel, file storage/ transfer/ internet/email/ conferencing meeting online/ download-upload files online.

LOL, too bad you don't want Dell cuz it'd be perfect for this.

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

i have a budget of $650 from the boss man, i want a computer that can run windows 7 with alot of windows and background programs running without lags or crash. He does not want the pre-built model with all the accesory junky software from Dell or HP. I will look into NCIX package pc deals

Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport

ur boss is fucking stupid then

He is correct.

You should go down to ncix or apower and let the sales guy figure it out for you.

Edit: I don't follow this stuff but this looks like a good deal for $650:

http://www1.ca.dell.com/ca/en/busine...cabsdt1&~ck=mn

Win 7
Core 2 Quad Q9400
4GB RAM
750 GB HD

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

i think skinnypup is right about the ram. If MB supports it, why would i need to temper with voltage. It should be plug and play.

Will there be a dramatic change from Athlon II X4 620 to phenom II X4 925? Wouldnt mind saving more dollars

I wouldn't say dramatic. It will be faster overall though. The more cache, the better.

If i were to put a number on it, I would say 10-12% faster overall. But that will vary depending on what you're doing. Is that worth an extra $20 on top of $100? Up to you.

[wasabisashimi]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

I wouldn't say dramatic. It will be faster overall though. The more cache, the better.

If i were to put a number on it, I would say 10-12% faster overall. But that will vary depending on what you're doing. Is that worth an extra $20 on top of $100? Up to you.

Just out of curiosity, will the Athlon X2 240 or 250 (about $80 dollars) beat the FX-62, I can buy one off my friend for a 100 dollars

[mr_chin]

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

Office computer usage: word processing, excel, file storage/ transfer/ internet/email/ conferencing meeting online/ download-upload files online.


My research came down to 4 CPUs
1)Intel E8400 $179.99
2)Intel i5 750 $234.99
3)AMD phenom II X4 955 $190.18
4)AMD phenom II X4 965 $216.50

I dont know what the cost for decent motherboard for each CPU will be. Please let me know, cuz i have heard AMD motherboards are cheaper than Intel.

My Boss will pay for this, but he would like the best bang for his dollar and it is my responsibility to get him the best /most stable/ fast bootup and multi-tasking Computer.

Will Intel E8400 be sufficient with only 2 cores or is it too old for running windows 7. I will not overclock or play game on these.

Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
thx

No the E8400 is not too old to run windows 7, in fact dual core CPU's are the best CPU's for office usage.

I would say get the E8400 because the i5 750 will require you to get LGA1156 chipset board which will be more expensive. Best bang for the buck for office usage will be this IMHO.

Just my 2 cent.

[q0192837465]

The way I see it, if it's a company computer, then there's no point in building it urself. There's really not much point in taking on more responsibilities than necessary. Of course, if u'r trying to prove something to ur boss or u'r in that line of business then it's another story. But if ur boss asks u to build a company computer just cuz u'r better @ computers than everybody else there's really no point in doing it. You are merely putting urself at the line of fire should anything goes wrong. Get a pre-built one, let someone else be responsible for it.

[wasabisashimi]

i dont really build it, i select parts and have tech to assemble

[Gt-R R34]

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

i dont really build it, i select parts and have tech to assemble

...after all this........you have a tech?

This deserves a fail.

Ask your tech, here's 650 - tax included. Build me something, if it works in budget. You're good.

Bang for Bucks - get a dell. Support from dell is awesome.

[SuperSlowSS]

Originally Posted by tiger_handheld

I'm sorry, but what kind of business "BUYS" computers?

You guys should be leasing brand new DELL PC's every 2-3 years to ensure: best /most stable/ fast bootup and multi-tasking computers. This also gives u a tax write off every year. unlike the one time depreciation hit when u buy.


If you are a mom and pop shop, who needs 1 pc - just buy a dell and strip the dell software that comes preloaded. It is the most effective way!

you get tax write off even if you buy the computer.

[wasabisashimi]

ok, i appreciate all the help, but i created this thread to ask about cpu's, and i am getting answers like "just buy a dell", " what kind of business buys computers", " you have a tech" and " your boss is stupid" etc...

I just want to build the pc myself for personal reasons. Dell is not an option regardless.

Anyways, decided to go with "Athlon II X4 620" with 4GB ddr2

[underscore]

here's what I see:

1) since your boss is just getting you to pick out the parts, it's doubtful he'll notice small differences in performance, especially when he's not directly comparing to the other option. so finicky little bits like the slight difference in RAM speed don't matter much. From what I gather SkinnyPupp puts together machines all the time so he's seeing them side by side to compare.

2) Since this is a business machine, have you given consideration to backup media? I don't know your exact situation but if the HDD shits the bed and loses a bunch of company files, that's usually bad.

3) Related to 2, is that if you buy a prebuilt Dell machine as a business, you're also getting the business level support. From what I am told (forgive me if I am wrong) they give damn good support to businesses should something fail, whereas if you build it all yourself you're dealing with individual manufacturers as a regular user. The importance of all that boils down to how important it is that this computer stays running as much as possible.