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Harvey Specter 01-08-2010 10:35 PM

Excited astronomers say they could find Earth-like planets in just a few years
 
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This image made from video provided by NASA shows an artist's rendition of what an Earth-like planet might look like. A top NASA official and other leading scientists say that within four or five years they should discover the first Earth-like planet located in a spot outside our solar system where life could develop, or may have already.
Not related to this article but a cool photo;

http://d.yimg.com/ca.yimg.com/p/1001...e_ilP49MlUgA--
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Snow and ice cover Britain in this image from NASA's multi-national Terra satellite, orbiting over 650 km (400 miles) above the earth, January 7, 2010. Widespread ice and sub-zero temperatures continued to cause disruption across Britain on Thursday, with the coldest weather in 30 years showing little sign of easing and more snow on the way.
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By Seth Borenstein, The Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Astronomers say they are on the verge of finding planets like Earth orbiting other stars, a key step in determining if we are alone in the universe.

A top NASA official and other leading scientists say that within four or five years they should discover the first Earth-like planet where life could develop, or may have already. A planet close to the size of Earth could even be found sometime this year if preliminary hints from a new space telescope pan out.

At the annual American Astronomical Society conference this week, each discovery involving so-called "exoplanets" - those outside our solar system - pointed to the same conclusion: Quiet planets like Earth where life could develop probably are plentiful, despite a violent universe of exploding stars, crushing black holes and colliding galaxies.

NASA's new Kepler telescope and a wealth of new research from the suddenly hot and competitive exoplanet field generated noticeable buzz at the convention. Scientists are talking about being at "an incredible special place in history" and closer to answering a question that has dogged humanity since the beginning of civilization.

"The fundamental question is: Are we alone? For the first time, there's an optimism that sometime in our lifetimes we're going to get to the bottom of that," said Simon "Pete" Worden, an astronomer who heads NASA's Ames Research Center. "If I were a betting man, which I am, I would bet we're not alone - there is a lot of life."

Even the Roman Catholic Church has held scientific conferences about the prospect of extraterrestrial life, including a meeting last November.

"These are big questions that reflect upon the meaning of the human race in the universe," the director of the Vatican Observatory, the Rev. Jose Funes, said Wednesday in an interview at this week's conference.

Worden told The Associated Press: "I would certainly expect in the next four or five years we'd have an Earth-sized planet in the habitable zone."

Worden's centre runs the Kepler telescope, which is making an intense planetary census of a small portion of the galaxy.

Unlike the Hubble Space Telescope, which is a general instrument, Kepler is a specialized telescope just for planet-hunting. Its sole instrument is a light meter that measures the brightness of more than 100,000 stars simultaneously, watching for anything that causes a star to dim. That dimming is often a planet passing in front of the star.

Any planet that could support life would almost certainly need to be rocky rather than gaseous. And it would need to be in just the right location. Planets that are too close to their star will be too hot, and those too far away are too cold.

"Every single rock we turn over, we find a planet," said Ohio State University astronomer Scott Gaudi. "They occur in all sorts of environments, all sorts of places."

Researchers are finding exoplanets at a dizzying pace. In the 1990s, astronomers found a couple of new planets a year. For most of the last decade, it was up to a couple of planets every month.

This year, planets are being found on about a daily basis, thanks to the Kepler telescope. The number of discovered exoplanets is now well past 400. But none of those has the right components for life.

That's about to change, say the experts.

"From Kepler, we have strong indications of smaller planets in large numbers, but they aren't verified yet," said Geoff Marcy of the University of California at Berkeley. He is one of the founding fathers of the field of planet-hunting and a Kepler scientist.

But there is a big caveat. Most of the early exoplanet candidates found by Kepler are turning out to be something other than a planet, such as another star crossing the telescope's point of view, when double-and triple-checked, said top Kepler scientist Bill Borucki.

Kepler is concentrating on about one-four hundredth of the nighttime sky, scanning more than 100,000 stars, ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand light years away. A light year is about 5.9 trillion miles. So such planets are too far to travel to, and they cannot be viewed directly like the planets in our solar system.

If there were an Earth-like body in the area Kepler is searching, the telescope would find it, Marcy said. But it can take three years to confirm a planet's orbital path.

What Kepler has confirmed so far keeps pointing to the idea that there are many other Earths. Before Kepler, those bodies were too small to be seen. Borucki this week announced the finding of five new exoplanets - all discovered in just the first six weeks of planet-hunting. But all those planets were too large and in the wrong place to be like Earth.

When Kepler looked at 43,000 stars that are about the same size as our sun, it found that about two-thirds of them appeared to be as life-friendly and nonviolent as our nearest star.

Marcy, who this week announced finding a planet just four times larger than Earth, does not like to speculate how many stars have Earth-like planets. But when pressed, he said Thursday: "70 per cent of all stars have rocky planets."

"If you are in the kitchen and are trying to cook up a habitable planet, we already know that in the cosmos, all the ingredients are there," he said.

While astronomers at the convention are excited about exoplanets, Marcy is more skeptical, as is Jill Tarter, director of the SETI Institute, which seeks out intelligent life by monitoring for electromagnetic transmissions. They said there is still the chance that the searches can come up empty.

Marcy said there is the small possibility that planets do not form easily at Earth's size, and that most are bigger.

Tarter - who was the basis for a character portrayed in the movie "Contact" by Jodie Foster - said: "I always worry that we talk ourselves into thinking we know more than we know."

Once an Earth-like planet is found in the right place, determining if there are the ingredients for life there will pose another hurdle.

It will require costly new telescopes. A massive space telescope to scan Earth-like planets for oxygen, water, carbon dioxide - and even faint signs of industrial emissions from civilization - would cost about $5 billion.

For now, such a high price is a budget-buster, but that could change. Cornell University astronomer Martha Haynes said: "We are at a very special moment in the history of mankind."

Mkhun 01-08-2010 10:44 PM

interesting...Pandora?!

Brianrietta 01-08-2010 10:47 PM

The GB photo is pretty incredible.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...britainjpg.jpg

NimbeeTT 01-08-2010 11:01 PM

I love the ad for this page if anyone else sees it, the comit hitting hearth labeled "Dec 21, 2012" lol

Anyway,
that's pretty interesting, it'd be pretty sweet if there's life forms on that planet, i wonder what they'd be like..

twitchyzero 01-08-2010 11:04 PM

imagine seeing lifeforms through telescopes few thousand lightyearss away then getting all excited, only to realize that image was from 500 years ago and they've actually become extinct haha.

dachinesedude 01-08-2010 11:07 PM

with the universe so big, its not surprising that there are planets like earth, but its useless to find them anyways, we dont have light speed technology yet

skyxx 01-08-2010 11:39 PM

Meh....

subordinate 01-08-2010 11:57 PM

Probably another dimension with exact duplicates of ourselves...

Time to go kill my twin...so I can ....have his powers.

urrh 01-09-2010 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by subordinate (Post 6761888)
Probably another dimension with exact duplicates of ourselves...

Time to go kill my twin...so I can ....have his powers.

when you kill your twin, the division of power is shared with your remaining selves.
jet li taught us that.

keifun 01-09-2010 01:11 AM

we need to develop a warp-drive now to travel to those planets.

Ulic Qel-Droma 01-09-2010 07:12 AM

more planets we can conquer and pollute! the human way! ACROSS THE UNIVERSE!!!

nack 01-09-2010 07:37 AM

^ LOL, i instantly thought of Mass Effect at that

fishing666 01-09-2010 08:19 AM

no doubt there are other life form promoting planets out there. and too distant for communication if intelligible lifeforms exist. just a wet dream for space geeks

carisear 01-09-2010 10:04 AM

fuck warp drives, we need stargates for instant travel.

Qmx323 01-09-2010 10:36 AM

lets build a massive moon sized spaceship where we can live on for generations while travelling to our new home planet

Mugen EvOlutioN 01-09-2010 11:16 AM

time to take off and move to another planet ppl

The_AK 01-09-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 6762161)
more planets we can conquer and pollute! the human way! ACROSS THE UNIVERSE!!!

fuck that, more planets for us to travel to and spread the word of jesus christ and the bible

belka 01-09-2010 04:39 PM

Do these new planets have oil?

4doorVIP 01-09-2010 04:57 PM

^ mostly blood diamonds

InvisibleSoul 01-09-2010 05:04 PM

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A top NASA official and other leading scientists say that within four or five years they should discover the first Earth-like planet located in a spot outside our solar system where life could develop, or may have already.
Meanwhile, the beings on that planet have already known about our planet millions of years ago, and are pointing and laughing at us, calling us n00bs.


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