Wow, you're right I never noticed the years thing. That's a pretty good observation. |
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The fact that this has been going on for so long without AJ-R requesting the issue be taken down is quite obvious. Which, makes me beleive that there has got to be some sort of truth to it. If the statements above were false from J's perspective, wouldn't they get in big shit from AJ-R (lawsuits) since this type of ordeal is a business crusher for any company? But still, nothing is happening. So yet, some more truth to it. It is easy to speak the truth. But it is hard to constantly lie. From all the reading, reguardless of the quality of J's prodcuts. I don't see many mistakes when it came to issuing the statement and so forth. Hum. Who am i going to believe? For a business to put that kind of statment up on their site is either 1. Telling the truth, and has facts to back it up in court 2. Really FUKing stupid and is just waiting to get sued. |
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Japan is not only one day ahead of us time zone wise, they are also at least a year or two ahead of us in most other things......... that's why they have cool stuff long before we do. :D |
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regardless, i think that clears up the matter of when the actual letter was posted - this year, and the deadline is likely april of 2010 |
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Here are my thoughts. 1) People complaining/questioning quality of J's racing products purchased from AJR 2) J's is some how tipped off about #1 (i do not know how or what but its not relevant). J's purchases one of their own products from AJR. Product is deemed fake. 3) J's sends letter (1st letter in 1st post of this thread) to Benjamin of AJR (owner? i personally dont know). Deadline to resolve matters is April 22, 2009. -) March 2009. "AJ-Racing actually dropped the J's Racing line as of March 2009 due to internal issues that were never resolved in the past." 4) Deadline passes. April 22. 5) AJR has a Grand Re-Opening on May 25th ish(date of thread:http://www.revscene.net/forums/j-r-g...=grand+opening) (Yes, I know it could just be because they wanted a bigger place (or new location, i have never been to either places.)) 6) Since the deadline up until June 30, 2009. I guess fingers were pointed back and forth as to who was wrong, with no clear winner. 7) June 30, 2009. J's sends letter to AJR (2st letter in 1st post of this thread) stating they never made a special batch and that they never gave permission for anyone to replicate their products. 8) August 21, 2009. AJR representative says they requested the make of special batch J's exhaust. (Taken from s2ki forum: http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...=718060&st=100) 9) January 13, 2010. Letter surfaces on multiple forums and J's official website/blog. Reason for this being posted so late was maybe to see if they can work out a deal with AJR? Who knows. What also fits into the above timeline i rushed is the numerous cases(threads) on other car forums which question the quality of the "genuine" J's products bought from AJR. Also, the termination of AJR as an official distributor of J's Racing products. Feel free to add to or correct my timeline. It's 2:30am and I am tired. EDIT: after some re-reading, filled in some info in the timeline thanks to Joh (posted here: http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...3&postcount=62) |
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2002 = 1st yr 2003 = 2nd yr 2004 = 3rd yr 2005 = 4th yr 2006 = 5th yr 2007 = 6th yr 2008 = 7th yr 2009 = 8th yr J's racing stated "almost" 9 yrs so that makes it still in the 8th yr. Their statement makes sense :) |
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BUT please validate this statement for me. taken from the s2ki forums: http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...=718060&st=100 Second post down states, and I quote from August 21, 2009. Quote:
EDIT: I misread and interpreted Hide625's post above. |
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you saying he can't work at AJ before AJ partner up with J's ? |
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And to my previous post, I misread it and that Hide625 was actually arguing my point and not against it (the date issue brought up by kt). My bad. |
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I would never believe A&J would knowingly sell any fake parts to customers under any circumstances; but after 2 days and 264 posts later, all I can say is I am a little disappointed at A&J or even Ben. Putting all the debates, dramas and internet legal advise aside, this is a threat to the company's goodwill, I would expect someone from A&J would stand up and give us a clarification by now. |
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Well there's one reason AJR isn't replying to these alliegations. Any reply here could influence decisions made against them in future lawsuits. Ie if they admit they did sell fake parts, everyone who purchased items from them would start a lawsuit. If they deny these alliegations then it could be used in the courts against them to generate an even greater punishment. So if u guys are waiting for AJR to reply forget about it. The only news u may hear from them in the next little while is their shop closing down. Posted via RS Mobile |
I think if there was a lawsuit, it would have happened already seeing how the letter is dated with a deadline back in April 2009. I really don't get why there are still people asking for AJR's reply, when they have already made several replies on forums like fitfreak stating their stance in this, which pretty much summarizes to their parts being supplied only from J's racing. Now why are they not posting here too I have no clue, maybe they can really care less about revscene :confused: |
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im suprised no one here has been to aj recently this week? im sure some s2000er or fit guy would have had to balls to go to the shop and asked.. or didnt sum guy here said he had orders placed at aj racing? how did that go? |
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Pretty clear cut here. It may be hard to believe to some of you that this guy is a fraud... but that seems to be the case. And it was proven long ago... according to those threads. |
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How fucking hard was that to figure out? |
Im pretty sure J's would have more to lose if they were doing this. J's = world wide AJ-R = national? if that. |
I think i'm gonna buy a mad tyte cai from AJR, everyone knows that shit makes like 90 extra hp's |
it's like Footlocker claim that Nike made a special batch of T shirts without the Nike badge. And Footlocker kept selling them until someone complaints about it and Nike found out that Footlocker is copying the T Shirts. Then, Footlockers gonna say, Nike supplied us some T shirts without The Nike Logo, without Nike Tags, No Nike packing. The name of the brand and logo of the brand are both a very special thing to Japanese people. Not in many years would I believe that J's Racing would make products without their own name or logo on it. So, AJR's excuses are very lame in my opinion. But being a Honger, I know why AJR would simply say "I don't know why .....blah blah blah...." , same as " I don't speak engRish, I don't know... I don't know..." But saying I don't know won't help the problem here. AJR crew is probably in Japan right now at the TOkyo Salon, looking for their next replica product line or "T1R (Try 1 Replica?)" |
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