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cococly 02-24-2010 05:06 PM

2013 Lexus GS-F to get detuned LFA's V10??
 
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Quote:

Lexus is planning on taking on the BMW M5 with the GS-F, which will be powered by the LFA's V10 engine. The GS-F is expected to arrive in 2013 with a detuned version of the LFA's 4.8L V10. Engineers are currently working on bringing the engine size down to 4.6 liters with a final output around 450-hp.

In addition to the V10 engine, the GS-F will also be fitted with Toyota's first torque vectoring differential, which is similar to the system used on BMW's M cars. The system actively apportions drive between the rear wheels to improve handling.

A new SC is also due in mid-2014, which will be a hybrid with a 5.0L V8 mated to an electric motor.
source: http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...aspx?AR=247739

Mugen EvOlutioN 02-24-2010 06:50 PM

NICE!!!!

but 2013?


way too long

TheStig 02-24-2010 06:53 PM

How exactly are they looking to "take on" the M5 (in 2013, mind you) with a 450 hp normally aspirated 4.6L V10? I notice the article doesn't cite a source, so either: a) the article is just fluff, b) they don't intend the GS-F to actually compete with the M5, or c) Toyota needs to give their collective heads a shake.

Z3guy 02-24-2010 07:34 PM

by 2013, the new f10 M5 will be 600hp+ and tt to boot

oldsnail 02-24-2010 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6831024)
NICE!!!!

but 2013?


way too long

the current GS platform is due for a re-design anytime....hopefully by 2013.. it will look different

tofu1413 02-25-2010 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z3guy (Post 6831088)
by 2013, the new f10 M5 will be 600hp+ and tt to boot

actually, more like a V8TT motor. Bmw is downsizing their motors

shenmecar 02-25-2010 01:11 AM

Why don't Lexus just shoehorn the LF-A's V10 into the GS and call it a day.

VK79 02-25-2010 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 6831616)
Why don't Lexus just shoehorn the LF-A's V10 into the GS and call it a day.

They claim that at $300,000+, they still loose money for every LF-A. Thus the detuned version would most probably have cheaper parts and cost less to manufacture.

Spectre_Cdn 02-25-2010 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VK79 (Post 6831715)
They claim that at $300,000+, they still loose money for every LF-A. Thus the detuned version would most probably have cheaper parts and cost less to manufacture.

Hopefully that doesn't include sticky gas pedals :)

hk20000 02-25-2010 08:32 AM

480hp with sticky gas pedal will make you the fastest driver in the world momentarily.

!Aznboi128 02-25-2010 08:54 AM

always loved the look of the GS, this would be awesome.... but maybe a little late

obselete 02-25-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 6831806)
480hp with sticky gas pedal will make you the fastest driver in the world momentarily.

There were two separate recalls. Only toyota has the sticky pedal, lexus is not affected by this recall.

Lexus has a recall for floormat redesign because of the mat slipping under the pedal.

Timpo 02-25-2010 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VK79 (Post 6831715)
They claim that at $300,000+, they still loose money for every LF-A. Thus the detuned version would most probably have cheaper parts and cost less to manufacture.

what's the cost of engine though? does it really worth it putting another $$$ and detune the engine?

LFA's expensive price tag includes carbon fiber everything, titanium exhauts, etc..

twitchyzero 02-25-2010 01:49 PM

if this is true it would kill the exclusiveness of the LF-A...even if it's detuned

VK79 02-27-2010 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 6832052)
what's the cost of engine though? does it really worth it putting another $$$ and detune the engine?

LFA's expensive price tag includes carbon fiber everything, titanium exhauts, etc..

True but don't forget, this is gonna be a "common" production car that they will make in the thousands and have to warranty for 3?5? years. Not to mention it would probably cost way too much to service and maintain if they simply ported the LF-A's V10, they DO have to keep it close (most likely CHEAPER) to the M5's price tag.

keifun 02-27-2010 09:18 PM

looks promising..;)

!SG 02-27-2010 10:16 PM

my gen GS went from 98-05, so thats 7 years. current one came out in 06, so its already 4 years into production, its possibly they will stick with the same body style as the current one.

remember when they label it 2013, it actually means its out by 2012, or fall of 2011.



haha, reminds me of a funny thing a friend said to me the other day

me: "look in the rear view mirror! that corolla is tailgatting me!"
buddy: "maybe he's just got a sticky gas pedal?"

optiblue 03-02-2010 06:48 PM

we'll all be dead by the end of 2012~

q0192837465 03-03-2010 11:54 AM

is it me or does it look like it has a big ass. It kinda looks like a Touring verison of a sedan

ivanz 03-03-2010 11:58 AM

The GS 350/460/450h have a completely different gas pedal than any other Toyota/Lexus...it is the push down type not the type that hangs from the top (with the exception of the 06 GS AWD I believe).
I don' think they can shoehorn the V10 engine in on the 3GS, as the GS 460 engine barely fits into the bay and is forced to use a single intake due to space (unlike the LS, which has dual intakes for the same engine). The picture is of the current GS, which will be redesigned soon.

TRD Rs200 03-03-2010 12:05 PM

nice!


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