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Old 03-18-2010, 07:37 AM   #51
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but still, that video is only based on the woman's story, if they get the custom officers to come out and tell their side of the story, then we can decide who's wrong



just 1 question, y are u sooo determined that the woman is 100% innocent?? are you from taiwan?
you will never hear customs side of the story because thats how they operate most of the time, to not reveal what they're intentions were even if it was right or wrong unless they make a significant drug bust or any other bust that makes them look good.
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you will never hear customs side of the story because thats how they operate most of the time, to not reveal what they're intentions were even if it was right or wrong unless they make a significant drug bust or any other bust that makes them look good.
ouch then i guess no one's gonna know the truth :S
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I’m not even sure I understand the problem. She’s upset because our customs officials were rude? Ummmm, so what?
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I’m not even sure I understand the problem. She’s upset because our customs officials were rude? Ummmm, so what?
At least she reported to the government, and didn't post about her experience on a website...
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Shes playing the role of the victim nicely. Right now shes the one making all of the statements and can manipulate the story any which way she pleases.

And trust me, one woman's statement isn't going to stop Asians from coming to Canada.
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There was no violation of her rights. This isn’t her country, this is Canada. She wanted to visit, officials said no after asking her questions and searching her. It happens everyday all over to the world to plenty of people trying to get into a country other than her own. Canada is not an open border free for all, with happy go lucky Mounties waving everyone in, despite what some people from other countries would like to believe. We don’t have an obligation to let anyone in, for any reason. Customs officials can turn you away for any reason if you are not a Canadian citizen, the same as any other border in any other country.

I can only assume she couldn’t prove where she was actually going and for what purpose. I would also assume from the luggage she was bringing that they figured she was going to stay in the country illegally. Why should she be allowed to call anyone? So they can tell her what to say? That’s not how customs works. Get your shit in order before you get here, period.

As a side note for the OP: Its customs, not custom. It has a fucking "s" at the end.
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There was no violation of her rights. This isn’t her country, this is Canada. She wanted to visit, officials said no after asking her questions and searching her. It happens everyday all over to the world to plenty of people trying to get into a country other than her own. Canada is not an open border free for all, with happy go lucky Mounties waving everyone in, despite what some people from other countries would like to believe. We don’t have an obligation to let anyone in, for any reason. Customs officials can turn you away for any reason if you are not a Canadian citizen, the same as any other border in any other country.

I can only assume she couldn’t prove where she was actually going and for what purpose. I would also assume from the luggage she was bringing that they figured she was going to stay in the country illegally. Why should she be allowed to call anyone? So they can tell her what to say? That’s not how customs works. Get your shit in order before you get here, period.

As a side note for the OP: Its customs, not custom. It has a fucking "s" at the end.
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you can turn visitors down on suspicions alone?
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all countries can do that at the border
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you can turn visitors down on suspicions alone?
Why couldn’t you? They are visitors, not Canadian citizens.

If you are not a Canadian citizen, you don’t have the “right” to be in Canada, its privilege. That privilege can be taken away by the customs agent if he or she feels that you could cause a problem for any reason inside of Canada. This woman looked like she was probably an immigration risk (meaning that she would try to illegally stay inside of Canada) so they booted her out. Good on them.

They really don’t need to justify there actions to anyone, especially someone from another country.
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yes but if the person doesnt actually have any suspicious item nor activity, without a legit proof are you actually able to turn them down? sure if you find weapons/drugs tats another story....but luggage full of clothes? isnt that pretty standard for a traveller?
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Is anybody else annoyed about how stupid some RS members are at believing hearsay like it's 100% fact, spoken from the mouth of God himself?

Really, come on, smarten up.

Until we hear both sides of the story, playing Monday morning quarterback and second guessing this is completely ridiculous. "Oh oh oh, but couldn't they ___________", "But but but they could've done ____________", or "Wait a second, i'm a stupid retard and i have no idea wtf i'm talking about RS 14$ balla fuck the police".
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15 days, 2 big suitcases ... 46kg, thats over 100lbs!
No wonder customs pulled her over.
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yes but if the person doesnt actually have any suspicious item nor activity, without a legit proof are you actually able to turn them down? sure if you find weapons/drugs tats another story....but luggage full of clothes? isnt that pretty standard for a traveller?
Basically they are saying from what was packed in the luggage, it looked as though this person would be staying longer than the visa allowed, and longer than what she was telling them.

In a bid to curb the illegal immigration problem we have here, they turned her away. Pretty standard. She is not a Canadian citizen, she has no “right” to be in Canada. They don’t need any other reason than they didn’t believe what she was telling them.

The odd thing here is that I think a lot of people have this idea like she should be allowed into Canada if they cant PROVE that there is something wrong. She is not a Canadian citizen, we don’t have to prove anything. Its up to her to prove she should be allowed in, not on us to prove otherwise.
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Basically they are saying from what was packed in the luggage, it looked as though this person would be staying longer than the visa allowed, and longer than what she was telling them.

In a bid to curb the illegal immigration problem we have here, they turned her away. Pretty standard. She is not a Canadian citizen, she has no “right” to be in Canada. They don’t need any other reason than they didn’t believe what she was telling them.

The odd thing here is that I think a lot of people have this idea like she should be allowed into Canada if they cant PROVE that there is something wrong. She is not a Canadian citizen, we don’t have to prove anything. Its up to her to prove she should be allowed in, not on us to prove otherwise.
Just look at all the Honduras people in the DTES that are selling drugs.

There is a ton of paperwork and red tape to bring in filipino maids and Mexican farm workers because of this exact problem that 91CivicZC has pointed out.

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yes but if the person doesnt actually have any suspicious item nor activity, without a legit proof are you actually able to turn them down? sure if you find weapons/drugs tats another story....but luggage full of clothes? isnt that pretty standard for a traveller?
the border doesnt need to have any actual proof, as long as "reasonable doubt" is there.

as many people said, her visa is not a right to enter Canada.
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Well, that is story from her side. She might planning to stay in Canada illegally. She failed. So she complain how rude she was treated to exaggerate the issue.
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I don't see how customs did anything wrong here, someone was suspicious so they refused entry. Only thing I would complain about is the sluggish process and perhaps the question if a translator was accessible to woman

how much is too much clothes?

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15 days, 2 big suitcases ... 46kg, thats over 100lbs!
No wonder customs pulled her over.
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bitch is trying to apply for refugee status. thats a whole lot of crap for a visit
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Is anybody else annoyed about how stupid some RS members are at believing hearsay like it's 100% fact, spoken from the mouth of God himself?

Really, come on, smarten up.

Until we hear both sides of the story, playing Monday morning quarterback and second guessing this is completely ridiculous. "Oh oh oh, but couldn't they ___________", "But but but they could've done ____________", or "Wait a second, i'm a stupid retard and i have no idea wtf i'm talking about RS 14$ balla fuck the police".
there is no second side of the story. Someone got refused, they are not a canadian citizen. Therefore good on cbsa.
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