There have to be exceptions to the rule, for instances where it really is the shop's fuck-up.

Prime example: when I had our minivan in to the dealership for service, years ago... guy ahead of me at the service desk was picking up his brand-new truck that he'd brought in for its first scheduled service. He got his keys and went out the door... and came back a couple mintues later just fuming: the mechanic had parked it outside, in the pouring rain... with the passenger window wide open. Dude had leather seats, too.

Just to add insult to injury, the idiot behind the counter just stared at dude blankly and then offered him a wad of paper towels...

I don't see how a shop could hide behind "not responsible for damage" clauses for something like that.

so basically the guy is an idiot and did a shitty install of a remote start on his Mustang, then brings it into the dealer and it ends up in a pond because he bypassed the safety features...

if anything I'd say he's lucky this didn't happen elsewhere, his car could've run through a school playground or something, all on it's own.

Fail on both ends

if the dealers smart enough, they'd go through the forums and find evidence and screw him over. it's totally his fault and the dealer should not pay a dime to him.

It would if it were a torqueless Honda :haha:

I remember reading that a Dodge Viper had enough torque to move from a complete stop in FIFTH gear.

it will depend on which state it was in i'm sure. The laws regarding remote starters on manual trans vehicles would vary from state to state i bet.

In my eyes, it's 100% the owners fault. I've installed a few remote starters in my day, and there is only a few correct way to do it, this guys not being one.

If he had it installed properly there is no way this would have happened.


I'd love to hear what an installer like orgasm donor would say about this!

it was actually a corvette, and it was on top gear where clarkson put the car in 5th and just let the clutch go.

lol, I believe I read the Viper story in Car and Driver years back, but yeah I remember that episode of TG too.

It's easier for shops to have a clause that says they are not responsible for losses or damages, rather than to have 100 pages of clauses saying they are responsible for this, but not that. Or they could assume responsibility for everything and open a pandora's box.

Generally, on paper a shop will say they are not responsible, when in fact they would cover the vast majority of problems that happen when the vehicle is in their care.

The "no reponsibility" clause is just to cover those odd circumstances that come up.

he didn't dump it, he feathered it until it was fine to move. Though it DOES have enough power.