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The_AK 04-25-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6924464)
Fascinating feedback there

Let me guess,
You're going to say that theres no such thing as aliens and that we should stop thinking about it because its stupid to even think so? (without any logical proof of course)

lol, anyways, thought of other life always gets to me.

SkinnyPupp 04-25-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The_AK (Post 6924619)
Let me guess,
You're going to say that theres no such thing as aliens and that we should stop thinking about it because its stupid to even think so? (without any logical proof of course)

No, I am saying it's annoying to have posts that are nothing but quotes from a news story with no effort to join a conversation.

The_AK 04-25-2010 07:17 PM

Fair enough^ my bad

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6924523)
why does nasa waste money on trying to find ET life?
what does it achieve when we do find them?
in the short time that humans have left on this planet i doubt we'll come in contact with any life with comparable intelligence to humans

I think it would close a lid on the bible. No more "god created this planet for us to love and cherish" bullcrap or beliefs that man is the ultimate being. Also I think we would be able to learn a lot from other beings outside of our own world.

SkinnyPupp 04-25-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The_AK (Post 6924632)
Fair enough^ my bad



I think it would close a lid on the bible. No more "god created this planet for us to love and cherish" bullcrap or beliefs that man is the ultimate being. Also I think we would be able to learn a lot from other beings outside of our own world.

Read my sarcastic posts. Religion can be twisted and manipulated so much that no matter what happens, they will find a way for it to exist.

The_AK 04-25-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6924641)
Read my sarcastic posts. Religion can be twisted and manipulated so much that no matter what happens, they will find a way for it to exist.

And thats why I stopped believing :o

AVS_Racing 04-25-2010 07:29 PM

reminds me of

http://blogs.sundaymercury.net/weird...sons-alien.jpg

LiquidTurbo 04-25-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6924641)
Read my sarcastic posts. Religion can be twisted and manipulated so much that no matter what happens, they will find a way for it to exist.

I'd like to think that life outside on earth would be the nail in the coffin for that.

Graeme S 04-25-2010 07:42 PM

If any of you are interested in the concept of "Space Scavengers" that is postulated in the original post, I would recommend you read a book called "Footfall" by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. It's an older book so some of the politics and technologies are a bit out of date, but the points made in the book are really interesting--for the most part, the conquest of a planet in order to gain resources is highly inefficient.

Want fuel? Scoop-dive a gas giant (hydrogen is the lightest so it should be near the top). Want water? Find an ice asteroid and cut it loose to harvest it--no need to waste fuel pulling it up from Gravity. Metals? Find some asteroids or a low-gee moon to stripmine.

Those who think that the conquest of a planet in order to gain its resources is the most efficient and possible truth...I highly doubt it. Why even bother with an inhabited planet that has technology? It's much more likely they'd come and just strip our system bare, and just leave us alone. Or just nuke the whole planet and be done with us.

SkinnyPupp 04-25-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme S (Post 6924732)
If any of you are interested in the concept of "Space Scavengers" that is postulated in the original post, I would recommend you read a book called "Footfall" by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. It's an older book so some of the politics and technologies are a bit out of date, but the points made in the book are really interesting--for the most part, the conquest of a planet in order to gain resources is highly inefficient.

Want fuel? Scoop-dive a gas giant (hydrogen is the lightest so it should be near the top). Want water? Find an ice asteroid and cut it loose to harvest it--no need to waste fuel pulling it up from Gravity. Metals? Find some asteroids or a low-gee moon to stripmine.

Those who think that the conquest of a planet in order to gain its resources is the most efficient and possible truth...I highly doubt it. Why even bother with an inhabited planet that has technology? It's much more likely they'd come and just strip our system bare, and just leave us alone. Or just nuke the whole planet and be done with us.

Yeah I'm surprised the usually brilliant Hawking is taking such a goofy sci-fi approach to his theory

SkinnyPupp 04-25-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 6924692)
I'd like to think that life outside on earth would be the nail in the coffin for that.

EVOLUTION is the nail in the coffin, and it hasn't done shit to slow them down.

LiquidTurbo 04-25-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6924736)
Yeah I'm surprised the usually brilliant Hawking is taking such a goofy sci-fi approach to his theory

That's because he's too smart for average people. He has to speak in Star Trek terms for anyone to listen.

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6924742)
EVOLUTION is the nail in the coffin, and it hasn't done shit to slow them down.

HAHA. This is true. Oh well.

tonyvu 04-25-2010 08:38 PM

As bad as it sounds.... not wanting to know what else can be out there is just not in our human nature. Life out there or not, you can't deny the fact of space and time and how vast it really is.

LiquidTurbo 04-25-2010 09:09 PM

^

Yep. It's crazy to think that the universe is 13.75billion years old. Modern humans showed up 150-200,000 years ago.

There could be civilizations out there that are BILLIONs of years more advanced than us.
There may have been advanced civilizations that lasted billions of years, only to die out hundreds of millions ago. Many, many possibilities.

monkeywrench 04-25-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 6924923)
^

Yep. It's crazy to think that the universe is 13.75billion years old. Modern humans showed up 150-200,000 years ago.

There could be civilizations out there that are BILLIONs of years more advanced than us.
There may have been advanced civilizations that lasted billions of years, only to die out hundreds of millions ago. Many, many possibilities.

And there may have been ancestors or earth even before us. Not to mention how many cycles of new life on earth.

welfare 04-25-2010 09:55 PM

i don't know how correct the number 13.75b really is
our dating system may be, and most likely is flawed.
regardless, civilizations spanning billions of years is improbable. natural occurrences in our universe would prevent such a thing.
civilizations coming and passing. just as ours will. another drop in the bucket. to make way for the next, as was made way for us.

LiquidTurbo 04-25-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOX (Post 6925010)
And there may have been ancestors or earth even before us. Not to mention how many cycles of new life on earth.

If you are talking about human-like ancestors, no dude.

tonyvu 04-25-2010 09:56 PM

^Humans are only a small spec comparing to the the life of stars... and its amazing to see how far the hubble space telescope saw back in time... most of these galaxies are really old and some may not even exists anymore.


monkeywrench 04-25-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 6925020)
If you are talking about human-like ancestors, no dude.

No i wasn't saying human-like ancestors, just another form of intelligent life.

danned 04-25-2010 10:09 PM

what is the point of this?
what could we do with aliens? end up like war?

welfare 04-25-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyvu (Post 6925026)
^Humans are only a small spec comparing to the the life of stars... and its amazing to see how far the hubble space telescope saw back in time... most of these galaxies are really old and some may not even exists anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcBV-cXVWFw

that image is where the 13.75b year estimate becomes contradicted

Graeme S 04-25-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by danned (Post 6925067)
what is the point of this?
what could we do with aliens? end up like war?

End up like the Aboriginese of Australia or Africans or Native Canadian/Americans, or...or...or...

welfare 04-25-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by danned (Post 6925067)
what is the point of this?
what could we do with aliens? end up like war?

i have to laugh at this comment. what's the point of anything then, really?

danned 04-25-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 6925075)
i have to laugh at this comment. what's the point of anything then, really?

how could we know there are aliens in our world right now?
we havent met anyone species outside this earth
seriously

welfare 04-25-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by danned (Post 6925089)
how could we know there are aliens in our world right now?
we havent met anyone species outside this earth
seriously

i'm not sure i follow. what are you trying to say here?
are you insisting that there may be no life outside of this planet?

JSALES 04-25-2010 10:30 PM

another alien thread with people posting videos to prove aliens exist haha


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