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Jsunu 04-30-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6931962)
Other than pedophilia, why do people care so much about who other people fuck?

Oh i dunno... make because he is her GRANDSON. I think that is already fucked up 10000x

Noir 04-30-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jsunu (Post 6931978)
Oh i dunno... make because he is her GRANDSON. I think that is already fucked up 10000x

And they're bothering other people how?

Putting one's penis into another man's body used to be fucked up 100000x some time ago, (and maybe still today in some places in this world). Even to this day I still can't stomach what gay people do but really, what gay people consentually do to themselves is really their business isn't it.

I may not understand their choices but neither does it bother me.

Jsunu 04-30-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6932067)
And they're bothering other people how?

Putting one's penis into another man's body used to be fucked up 100000x some time ago, (and maybe still today in some places in this world). Even to this day I still can't stomach what gay people do but really, what gay people consentually do to themselves is really their business isn't it.

I may not understand their choices but neither does it bother me.

Really it just bothers me because of the incest and the age difference but I am not going shit bricks as a result of this. I just find it disturbing and uncomfortable. Just imagine you having sexual intimacy with your grandmother :cry:. But hey, if they are in love and the child won't be raised in a fucked up environment, all the power to them.

People care so much because it is a unique relationship to say the least.

Noir 04-30-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jsunu (Post 6932076)
Really it just bothers me because of the incest and the age difference but I am not going shit bricks as a result of this. I just find it disturbing and uncomfortable. Just imagine you having sexual intimacy with your grandmother :cry:. But hey, if they are in love and the child won't be raised in a fucked up environment, all the power to them.

People care so much because it is a unique relationship to say the least.

I'm with you. I'm just saying that just because it's something I personally wouldn't do shouldn't mean that it's something other people shouldn't have the liberty to do either.

My moral compass stops at the line of physical harm such as rape or pedophilia where a child has yet the opportunity to understand the gravity of such acts. Condemning their sexual choices seems similar to how religion condemns other non-criminal acts that their beliefs disapprove of.

chun 04-30-2010 11:59 AM

Quote from comments:

"The article says he is a carpenter, I wonder if he likes to nail antiques."

LOL

Levitron 04-30-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by skyxx (Post 6931440)
So how does this work in terms of family

It doesn't.

TekDragon 04-30-2010 01:23 PM

Can only try to imagine what the family tree would look like.

simsimi1004 04-30-2010 01:24 PM

My Mom is my dads grandmother.

LexiSauce 05-02-2010 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shead (Post 6931149)
have fun with that.

and i feel so bad for their kid

!Aznboi128 05-02-2010 12:59 AM

wow... that's going to be real messed up

freakshow 05-02-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6932147)
I'm with you. I'm just saying that just because it's something I personally wouldn't do shouldn't mean that it's something other people shouldn't have the liberty to do either.

My moral compass stops at the line of physical harm such as rape or pedophilia where a child has yet the opportunity to understand the gravity of such acts. Condemning their sexual choices seems similar to how religion condemns other non-criminal acts that their beliefs disapprove of.

Your logic is completely flawed.. You're saying 'let them be, it doesn't affect me'.
If I go rape a kid, how does it affect you?

Muhammed 05-02-2010 02:00 AM

Incest is wincest
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simsimi1004 05-02-2010 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6932147)
I'm with you. I'm just saying that just because it's something I personally wouldn't do shouldn't mean that it's something other people shouldn't have the liberty to do either.

My moral compass stops at the line of physical harm such as rape or pedophilia where a child has yet the opportunity to understand the gravity of such acts. Condemning their sexual choices seems similar to how religion condemns other non-criminal acts that their beliefs disapprove of.

^^
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Originally Posted by freakshow (Post 6934258)
Your logic is completely flawed.. You're saying 'let them be, it doesn't affect me'.
If I go rape a kid, how does it affect you?

i agree, and to add
it does affect their future child because he/she isnt born in a "norm" environment. the child will likely be the victim of many bullies and will have a fucked up life. not to mention that he will be "mother"less in a decade or two. so if you care about the well being of a child, then you should be against this surrogate at least.

moral compass should tell u this is wrong when a child has to say

My mother is my great-grandmother.
My half sister is also my grandmother.
I am half aunt to my father.
My mother-side grandfather is also the great-grandfather of my father.
My father-side grandfather is my mothers son-in-law.
My half-sister/grandmother is the wife of my grandfather.
My mothers ex-husband is my fathers grandfather.

StealthFighter 05-02-2010 10:33 PM

original post is gone. i'm gonna guess it's this one since i saw it earlier this week.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...have-baby.html


if it is. i think it's fake.

the sun is a tabloid paper in Britain. don't believe everything you read.

Noir 05-02-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by freakshow (Post 6934258)
Your logic is completely flawed.. You're saying 'let them be, it doesn't affect me'.
If I go rape a kid, how does it affect you?

I should fail you. I already explained the "rape" bit and you've gone to even quote it yourself.

:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by simsimi1004 (Post 6934291)
^^

i agree, and to add
it does affect their future child because he/she isnt born in a "norm" environment. the child will likely be the victim of many bullies and will have a fucked up life. not to mention that he will be "mother"less in a decade or two. so if you care about the well being of a child, then you should be against this surrogate at least.

The same can be said about gay couples with respect to adoption. Some places restrict it, some places have no restrictions.

It's only a problem because people like you would laugh and snicker. I could care less if my kid goes to school with a kid that had gay parents; Or parents who's great-grandma and dad are couples.

simsimi1004 05-03-2010 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6935322)
It's only a problem because people like you would laugh and snicker. I could care less if my kid goes to school with a kid that had gay parents; Or parents who's great-grandma and dad are couples.

me and a coupple billion christians.

b0unce. [?] 05-03-2010 08:15 AM

pretty fucked up

Noir 05-03-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6935322)
It's only a problem because people like you would laugh and snicker. I could care less if my kid goes to school with a kid that had gay parents; Or parents who's great-grandma and dad are couples.

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Originally Posted by simsimi1004 (Post 6935472)
me and a coupple billion christians.

Is that what they teach you in Sunday school?

As a Christian, you should know that judgement is reserved only for your God. Not you or 2 billion other Christians.

Great display of Christianity there my good man.
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q0192837465 05-03-2010 01:05 PM

^sadly, most Christians think they'r holier than everybody else because they have God on their side.

unit 05-03-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthFighter (Post 6935254)
original post is gone. i'm gonna guess it's this one since i saw it earlier this week.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...have-baby.html


if it is. i think it's fake.

the sun is a tabloid paper in Britain. don't believe everything you read.

tabloids dont only publish made up stories. they publish anything that is bizzare. when theres nothing bizzare thats real going on, they make up stories to fill the void.

TRD Rs200 05-03-2010 02:02 PM

what has the world come to

simsimi1004 05-03-2010 02:30 PM

nothing to do with being "more holy" for being christian.
incest is forbidden in christianity. law of moses plz.

ok im gonna ask it.
noir, do u have incest in your family?

to add * ok just even forget about religion, we all know that it has little effect at a young age/
but at gradeschool level, hes gonna be made of fun of no doubt.

Noir 05-03-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by simsimi1004 (Post 6935874)
ok im gonna ask it.
noir, do u have incest in your family?

read my previous post; go to the right conclusion.

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6932147)
I'm just saying that just because it's something I personally wouldn't do shouldn't mean that it's something other people shouldn't have the liberty to do either.

Not everyone's moral compass is based out of Christian values.

Also as a Christian, although your religion may not approve of some sexual acts, does your teaching not also provide for "Tolerance." Does Jesus not forgive theives and murders? The 2 who died beside him and those who crucified him?

If I follow your imagery of Christianity, your religion is just 1 big hypocritical farce.

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Originally Posted by simsimi1004 (Post 6935874)
to add * ok just even forget about religion, we all know that it has little effect at a young age/
but at gradeschool level, hes gonna be made of fun of no doubt.

Society is evolving. Some places still remain conservative, some place have gone and allowed for gay people to adopt children and start families of their own.

Those children will also be subject to the same juvenile abuse as of your concerns. In this respect, should society forever restrict the gay communities' rights? Or maybe should society just leave some things well the fuck alone?

Besides, ironically the juvenile abuse that you so worry about will mostly be coming from people of close mind like you. Mathematically, the less people like you, the less these "different" kids need to worry.

simsimi1004 05-03-2010 05:06 PM

you never made fun of someone during ur whole life huh?
evolving for the gay community
but more like de-evolving for incest. do u think there are most incest now than centuries ago?
and what is people like me? personality doesnt build on sexuality/family tree. these "different" kids can also make fun of other kids like gay people! lol
so close minded people should all die? thats like all of white people during slavery.

Noir 05-03-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by simsimi1004 (Post 6936097)
you never made fun of someone during ur whole life huh?
evolving for the gay community
but more like de-evolving for incest. do u think there are most incest now than centuries ago?
and what is people like me? personality doesnt build on sexuality/family tree. these "different" kids can also make fun of other kids like gay people! lol
so close minded people should all die? thats like all of white people during slavery.

And where is slavery now? And what if society still regarded the darker complexion as an abomination? What if black people weren't allowed to have kids because kids they will be born into a life of adversity?

There would've been no Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali.

You're far more backwards than the people you criticize. I don't know if that's just a "you" thing, or a "christianity" thing but for the sake of Christians, I hope it's just you.


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