East Vancouver vs Richmond

[raygunpk]

where do you work

[RollingStone]

I'd pick East Vancouver over Richmond any day. I like to live in a place that has a wide range of different people both culturally and economic. Richmond is too homologous for me, and there are a lot of things the Chinese culture I dislike about (and I am Chinese). For example, I was in a car accident on Alderbridge a while ago and not a single person (all Chinese) was willing to be a witness. Instead they just pretended they didn't hear me LOL. Selfish bastards.

[wouwou]

dude, move over to north burnaby.

[JSALES]

East Van, less bad drivers

[unit]

THE ONLY reason you'd want to live in richmond, is if you have no problem with spending all your time in richmond.

getting out of richmond is annoying. location wise, north east richmond is the most convenient (knight, oak st bridge), but a lot of other nice parts of richmond are a fucking pain in terms of accessibility. and richmond is boring unless you're a bubbletea drinking asian.

east van by a landslide.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by tiger_handheld

because of this...

wehre is that???



uhhh i used to think richmond would be shitty, till i moved here.

I love it. I love it more than downtown. LOL.

it's so convenient here, everything is so close togehter (if u live near RC which i do).

uhh yeah i love richmond. it really depends where u work. I live in a little bubble now. i only leave rmd to visit friends and party. I work 5min walk away from where I live.

rmd isnt as bad as ppl think it is.

as for bad drivers etc. lol its normal man. bad drivers are everywhere.

if u like asians, you'll be surrounded by asians here. the skytrain is ultra fast and useful to get DT. u got lansdowne and RC as your choices for big malls, and everything in between the two for food and groceries.

bums.. crime... what? that's more in the suburbs of richmond.. crime anyways.

Im starting to see some bums long no3 road near the skytrain stations. it's usually the same guys.

[Harvey Specter]

^
Clark and I think E6th.

[TheKingdom2000]

if you're thinking south vancouver then i'd say south van east would be way better..
crossing knight street is a pain in the ass. it's not worth it imo.. + in vancouver you get the nice garbage and yard trimming bins =DDD

richmond is one of the worst run cities next to new west...

what's your budget? you can't buy a house in south east van for less than $600k... if that is the case, i think you can get a bigger place in richmond i believe.

[willystyle]

Originally Posted by tacobell

Everyone has different wants and needs, since i like nice character homes, friendly neighbors, parks for dogs and if i had to choose some place in east van, i would choose the area by pacific coliseum.

There are some very nice houses in this area, the area by Wall st near New Brighton park is nice too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...12,252.95,,0,5

Those houses are well over a million dollar cause they have waterfront view.

[Harvey Specter]

The fraserview/killarney area in South Van is really nice but super expensive.

[twitchyzero]

complaining about asian or east indian populated communities is stupid..they both have their disadvantages.

[Meowjin]

hate richmond. Grew up on boundary and 27th.

[hotong]

IMO Richmond is a pretty good place to live.. I would choose to live in Richmond over East Van

[seakrait]

Thanks for your replies guys.

I grew up in Richmond in the Steveston area before I moved Downtown so both Richmond and Downtown are familiar places (as is Vancouver West - though of course we're priced out of there).

I've never really hung out or spent much time in East Vancouver and neither has the wife so the info given above detailing which areas are the good areas and which areas are bad is pretty useful. After looking at some houses for sale in East Van on MLS and Google Streetview, it does seem that there are some nice neighbourhoods in East Van but we are looking for places NOT in South Vancouver or East Richmond.

We don't think we'll be moving at all after we move into a house (that's the current plan anyway) so we're also looking at the catchment area of potential high schools (ie: which high school our kid(s) will eventually go to)... because we think that high school plays quite a large role in a kid's life and we want to lessen the chances of our kids getting in with the wrong crowd. To me, Richmond has the upper hand in this as it seems as if Richmond high schools seem to be less troubled than the East Van schools.

The wife currently works Downtown but she has the ability to transfer and work at a different location. My work is moving locations so I'll be working in East Vancouver by next year. I've commuted to work before but that was from Downtown to work in Richmond. Obviously going the other way (from Richmond to Vancouver) would be much busier.

Further thoughts/comments?

[Marioo1991]

Richmond because they have better dim sum

[orange7]

Originally Posted by seakrait

We don't think we'll be moving at all after we move into a house (that's the current plan anyway) so we're also looking at the catchment area of potential high schools (ie: which high school our kid(s) will eventually go to)... because we think that high school plays quite a large role in a kid's life and we want to lessen the chances of our kids getting in with the wrong crowd. To me, Richmond has the upper hand in this as it seems as if Richmond high schools seem to be less troubled than the East Van schools.

stay far away from Vancouver Technical Secondary (went there, lots of beef) and Britannia (lol.. obviously it's right on Commercial).

I'm not sure about other high school, but I heard good things about Killarney. I think they just got a new ice rink?

[skyxx]

Stay in east van drive kid to Eric Hamber or Prince of wales haha.

[GLOW]

SpuGen pretty much summed up East Van pretty nicely. Personally I would suggest Killarney if you have the money, Renfrew/collingwood would be 2nd choice b/c it's cheaper.

If you dont mind, I would suggest North Burnaby as well. Pretty close to east van, price is similar but you get larger houses/lots. I like E.Van b/c it's central to everything: Richmond, downtown, Metro, etc. and lots of forms of easy public transportation if necessary.

Personally I'd stay away from hastings from nanaimo and east, commercial/broadway station area, and s.east van between knight & fraser. I'm not a fan of fraserview either.

If you're unfamiliar with the areas, spend a sunny weekend driving around areas you're interested in. You can notice the nice quiet family oriented areas from ones you get a bad feeling in. Our current place we noticed had a lot of mini-vans parked in driveways in the area and lots of young families in the area going for walks. But living in E.Van I already knew the area I was moving in to.

[bing]

Originally Posted by mx703

if you're thinking south vancouver then i'd say south van east would be way better..
crossing knight street is a pain in the ass. it's not worth it imo.. + in vancouver you get the nice garbage and yard trimming bins =DDD

richmond is one of the worst run cities next to new west...

what's your budget? you can't buy a house in south east van for less than $600k... if that is the case, i think you can get a bigger place in richmond i believe.

just curious, why do you say richmond is poorly run?

[twitchyzero]

Originally Posted by seakrait

Thanks for your replies guys.
We don't think we'll be moving at all after we move into a house (that's the current plan anyway) so we're also looking at the catchment area of potential high schools (ie: which high school our kid(s) will eventually go to)... because we think that high school plays quite a large role in a kid's life and we want to lessen the chances of our kids getting in with the wrong crowd. To me, Richmond has the upper hand in this as it seems as if Richmond high schools seem to be less troubled than the East Van schools.?

If that's the case, then you should consider living near killarney or david thompson secondary...no offense but other east van schools are pretty bad

[SpuGen]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

If that's the case, then you should consider living near killarney or david thompson secondary...no offense but other east van schools are pretty bad

And you recommended DT and Killarney?
Van Tech isn't as bad as most people think. They have Summit Program, and they shove all the kids in that program's lockers in the top floor in the "Summit Hall", next to all the Summit Course teachers. What this program is, is basically a program for Smart kids. It's enriched courses and none of the screwups ever go up there. You do see Flex Program kids up there, since most of the smart kids are friends with each other. The Flex program kids also get thier own "Flex Hall" and is similar to the Summit Program, but not as enriched? I don't know. I was a screw up compared to my other friends. Then I switched schools. Ended up at DT, and it was no better.

Funny thing about Van Tech when I went there, is that they pretty much seperated the screwups from the good kids. You could walk around the halls and pinpoint the areas when you walk down the halls.
Summit Hall: Smart nerdy kids. Mostly Asian
Flex Hall: Smart, different kind of nerdy kids. Mostly Asian
French Immersion : The weird skater French immersion kids. You'll see maybe one or 2 Asians in a pool of white kids.
The Ground floor/Basement area: This is where all the Art kids are. Potheads.
2nd floor had all the screwups. They had shittier lockers and they were right by that room where they make you do your homework. It's funny because they only gave that class to the screwups and nobody ever went. That floor also has all the "Essentials" courses like Math Essentials etc
Then they had the Hairdressing/Automotive classes. The lockers near there were for overflow mainly. And you see some screwups there. It was also right on the side of the school, so the people who skipped alot had an easy out.

[hk20000]

Originally Posted by seakrait

Thanks for your replies guys.

I grew up in Richmond in the Steveston area before I moved Downtown so both Richmond and Downtown are familiar places (as is Vancouver West - though of course we're priced out of there).

I've never really hung out or spent much time in East Vancouver and neither has the wife so the info given above detailing which areas are the good areas and which areas are bad is pretty useful. After looking at some houses for sale in East Van on MLS and Google Streetview, it does seem that there are some nice neighbourhoods in East Van but we are looking for places NOT in South Vancouver or East Richmond.

We don't think we'll be moving at all after we move into a house (that's the current plan anyway) so we're also looking at the catchment area of potential high schools (ie: which high school our kid(s) will eventually go to)... because we think that high school plays quite a large role in a kid's life and we want to lessen the chances of our kids getting in with the wrong crowd. To me, Richmond has the upper hand in this as it seems as if Richmond high schools seem to be less troubled than the East Van schools.

The wife currently works Downtown but she has the ability to transfer and work at a different location. My work is moving locations so I'll be working in East Vancouver by next year. I've commuted to work before but that was from Downtown to work in Richmond. Obviously going the other way (from Richmond to Vancouver) would be much busier.

Further thoughts/comments?

Richmond highschools are way better in terms of sensible people going to sensible places afterwards. Less stabbing incidents for sure.

Downtown from Richmond Brighouse is an easy riding 23min away. So the traffic problem is entirely irrelevant if you work DT.

Northern East Vancouver is alright but you are going to get into highway-1 induced traffic jam all the time because that is the only route possible to go anywhere in a brisk fashion. Whereas if you live in Richmond for long enough you have probably figured that there are always multiple ways to cross the river. Use your head, use your AM1130 and it'll be smooth sailing 24/7. Those who think there's problem travelling into and out of Richmond are not using any common sense Live in the Central area of Richmond then you have Hwy 99, Oak St Bridge, Hwy 91, Arthur Laing, Knight, Queensborough, Massey Tunnel, Alex Fraser to let you zoom out of town in a very efficient manner.

As for real estate prices take this into perspective: There's supposed to be a commercial complex completed on the lot South of Alderbridge between no.4 and Garden City. That will bring more people together, and that's gonna hold the value of the house you live in in the long term.

The recreational facilities in Richmond is superb too, Minoru Park for your ice rink, Olympic Oval, Thompson and others for your gym needs, waterworld amusement park, summer Riverport RS meets, golf courses and driving ranges, plenty of green within walking distance from city center. Even if you wanna gamble your money away there is starlight and RiverRock.

There's also always something for your tummy. Dim sum yum cha family restaurant, all you can eat, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, curry, Greek, steakhouse, late night munchies 24 hour coffee spots you pick it Richmond has it. If those don't feel high class enough for you just hop on the skytrain and get out in front of Gotham's, literally.

For shopping name me one chain store that is available in other cities but not in Richmond. Educate me if you know of anything at all. Then on the flip side there are so many shops that Richmond has that Vancouver can't even come to match... So convenient, little to trade-off, why the hell not?

Of course, the only reason I can think of that you might pick East Van over Richmond is that you might be working in East Van, Burnaby, Poco, PoMo, etc.... but working in Richmond or DT would definitely put Richmond ahead of East Van no question about it. Some says Richmond will flood but they say we all die in 2012 too, if you believe in that sort of thing...

Crap drivers are everywhere, it's a fact of life anywhere you live in 604. If it's gonna be you next it's gonna be you...it's not something you can avoid, that's why it's called an accident.

[alex.w *//]

if east van

just stay far away east of commercial and west of main.

[asahai69]

moved from the fraserview area to richmond. our cars got hit 3 times when it was parked outside. you can guess what ethnicity they were. lol. its only a pain in the ass if you wanna leave richmond during rush hour. the driving is horrendous here. even though the lot is bigger in richmond i still wished i lived in our old house in vancouver. thank god we still own the place.......

[danned]

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