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05-28-2010, 09:14 AM
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I know there are at least a few people that rent out some apartments, and after reading the tenancy act, the one thing I see is people on the landlord side of the equation need to help themselves because the branch isn't out to help.
I have a tenant in our building that has reached nuisance status. Complains about everything. Views themselves as something special, and I should just accept that.
We have come to the conclusion that its only going to get worse. We were playing a game of cat and mouse until recently when it kind of turned into something more open.
What experience do you have in getting rid of people? As I said...its nuisance level. I don't have enough to make a case for eviction. Besides, I get the impression that this person put down roots and is not the type to say fuck it and move.
any suggestions?
Serious replies only please...as much as I'd love to see the RS beat down crew at work, I doubt they'd do much in this case 
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05-28-2010, 09:18 AM
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beat down crew is dead, u need a new solution
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05-28-2010, 09:27 AM
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I manage 34 units. Give him his 30 day notice. If he still does not move out file for arbitration. Arbitration can take a couple of months. The whole system is a pain in the ass.
Does he pay his rent on time?
All forms available here: http://www.rto.gov.bc.ca/
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05-28-2010, 09:49 AM
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if you win arbitration and they still don't move, you then need to hire a bailiff and storage facility to store their belongings for 30 days. That can literally cost thousands, hopefully it doesn't reach that stage.
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05-28-2010, 09:49 AM
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Manic-I don't know if "I internally dislike you" is a valid reason for 30 day notice.
I've got a few things, but nothing at the defcon 3 level of serious.
I take the approach of the squaeky wheel getting the grease with building management. If you have a legit issue, I'm on it. If you call me up to be a dick, well, that just makes you high profile.
We've dealt with some things since starting, but not the eviction and arbitration process. How strict are they on grounds?
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05-28-2010, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tacobell  if you win arbitration and they still don't move, you then need to hire a bailiff and storage facility to store their belongings for 30 days. That can literally cost thousands, hopefully it doesn't reach that stage. | Yeah, this is what I want to avoid. You have someone dealing drugs and trashing the place then you need to go to the mat to protect the building.
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05-28-2010, 10:48 AM
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#7 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by Gridlock Manic-I don't know if "I internally dislike you" is a valid reason for 30 day notice.
I've got a few things, but nothing at the defcon 3 level of serious.
I take the approach of the squaeky wheel getting the grease with building management. If you have a legit issue, I'm on it. If you call me up to be a dick, well, that just makes you high profile.
We've dealt with some things since starting, but not the eviction and arbitration process. How strict are they on grounds? | Make it about noise and tell them you have gotten complaints from other tenants. Try to find a couple of other tenants that also don't like him. At arbitration it will be your word against his.
What's the tenant doing you don't like?
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05-28-2010, 11:28 AM
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How about if the homeowner wants the place back for their own use?
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05-28-2010, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Valour How about if the homeowner wants the place back for their own use? | Have to give them 3 months notice.
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05-28-2010, 11:59 AM
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Between taking it back and eviction, I would go the "taking it back" route, since eviction looks like it could take longer than 3 months and cost more.
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05-28-2010, 12:08 PM
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Thats why you do a lease. They are obligated to leave at the end of the term.
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05-28-2010, 12:10 PM
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#12 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Good luck on that. If the tenant is enough of a dick to investigate after that you've just "Rented" it out again and not for your own use you can get sued big time. Quote:
Originally Posted by Presto ^^^
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05-28-2010, 01:36 PM
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we had 2 unruly tenants. were rude and downright a PITA. well thats a bit off, their friends were a pain. the actual ladies that rented the suite were alright.
anyway it got to the point where it was beyond a nuisance and we gave them 30 days without question and they packed their shit and left without incident.
Another time, we had a smart ass that wanted to go by the books and felt as the OP stated, it was right to live in my suite as he pleased.
that one ended with a 60 day notice and we were told we had to pay him back 1months rent. That was fine, bc after the cost of the repairs and damage was calculated, he owed us a lot more than 1000 bux.
Stand your grand, do it by the books, and you will be able to get them out eventually.
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05-28-2010, 02:05 PM
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#14 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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what age group and race is your tenants ?
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05-28-2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Death2Theft Thats why you do a lease. They are obligated to leave at the end of the term. |
But what if they don't leave?
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05-28-2010, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Make it about noise and tell them you have gotten complaints from other tenants. Try to find a couple of other tenants that also don't like him. At arbitration it will be your word against his.
What's the tenant doing you don't like? | First intelligent reply. 
Not enough information here to really give a serious reply. Like Manic says, what are they doing that annoys you? Does any of it contravene building/strata bylaws? City/municipal bylaws? Is any of it potentially illegal?
You give the impression in the first post that you manage a building with multiple suites, so the next consideration would be whether other tenants are equally annoyed, as Manic suggests. If they're doing something that disrupts others, that may be the grounds you need right there.
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05-28-2010, 02:33 PM
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Same thing if they dont leave you have the right to go baliff on their ass. Quote:
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05-28-2010, 02:42 PM
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#18 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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being a nuisance is no reason for someone to lose their home. Youre a building manager right? You are providing a home for people..some are ideal tenants, some are dicks but its part of your job as manager to deal with it. The current tenancy laws exist for a reason, so people dont lose their homes for stupid reasons.
Gridlock, judging by your comments you seem like a level headed guy that wants to do things the right way. Building a case against this tenant, searching for reasons to evict because of a personal issue with him would be unethical in my opinion.
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05-28-2010, 02:45 PM
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^ After reading my comments I realize that I dont know the reason why you want him out...if its something serious then I wish you best of luck, but if its not then I encourage you to re-evaluate your options  | |
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05-28-2010, 02:58 PM
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Hell, I want to thank everyone for their opinions. I was kind of expecting people to tell me to hang a cookie sheet in the tree outside
Half of this was me venting steam. So many tenants in the building are great people and I've almost started thinking of this as a small community, where people are actually introducing themselves to their neighbors.
It makes me feel really great when you can see that in a small way its due to the tone you've set in the building.
I had some of the reasons listed above, but on the off chance that there is a revscener that recognizes the situation, I removed it. Didn't need that print out being slapped in my face.
The last post is the kicker. There is always going to be that person.
It just gets really frustrating to have someone criticizing every little thing you do, and you start thinking...what could solve it?
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05-28-2010, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Death2Theft Same thing if they dont leave you have the right to go baliff on their ass. | At a huge cost to you and you still have to get an order.
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05-28-2010, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy First intelligent reply.
Not enough information here to really give a serious reply. Like Manic says, what are they doing that annoys you? Does any of it contravene building/strata bylaws? City/municipal bylaws? Is any of it potentially illegal?
You give the impression in the first post that you manage a building with multiple suites, so the next consideration would be whether other tenants are equally annoyed, as Manic suggests. If they're doing something that disrupts others, that may be the grounds you need right there. | How is that an intelligent reply?
Unless this "annoying action" like you said contravenes any laws, municipal/strata/etc (Yes, I understand that there are strata laws against being disruptive to other tenants, but I don't get the feeling that it's really the case here) ... it's not a good enough reason to try to kick someone out. You can't kick someone out just because their personality clashes with you or other tenants. Quote: | Make it about noise and tell them you have gotten complaints from other tenants. Try to find a couple of other tenants that also don't like him. At arbitration it will be your word against his.
| What Manic is suggesting is basically lie fabrication.
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05-28-2010, 03:42 PM
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What Manic is suggesting is basically lie fabrication.
| Well now, a lie is really just a story thats been ruined by the truth.
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05-29-2010, 01:18 AM
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What Manic is suggesting is basically lie fabrication.
| When I have to kick out a tenant it's because of a number of problems and noise is always one of them. Noise violations are also the easiest to prove next to non payment of rent. It's tough to prove to the RTO that the person is a drug dealer or a prostitute. Cops are also useless in landlord/tenant disputes even if you have evidence a tenant is dealing drugs.
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05-29-2010, 09:38 AM
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Making money is never easy and landlords sometimes forget they are profiting from their endeavor.
It sucks your having a tough time with your tenants but remember you are building equity and financial stability from their pockets and that is why some tenants feel "entitled". Once the tenants become friendly with their neighbors they'll be more considerate. Like you posted above they create a community and there is growing pains that go along with that.
In the end if you don't like dealing with it hire a property management company to deal with it they know the laws and the limitations of the laws. At the end of the day you wont pocket as much but you wont be getting as many phone calls or stress.
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