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StylinRed 06-01-2010 12:10 PM
escorting the seized ships back?

m!chael 06-01-2010 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 6972734)
m!chael your whole post basically says "i dont care" and includes some false & generalized information along with assumptions.

That's why MajinHurricane called you a "tool" and stopped it there because he'd be short of killing himself if he tried explaining it to you.. It'd be like telling this guy :noob: why he's a tool or telling :IDL why he isn't a balla there's just no way

The mere fact that other areas of the world may face harsher conditions is moot and contestable.

as for this comment
That's also erroneous Gaza isn't Yours (israels); a more realistic example would be...

I'm walking on the sidewalk headed towards your neighbours House... you run out and tell me to fuck off and while your doing so your already beating me.

See how crazy that fucking sounds?






they weren't "breaching a blockade" you have to realize legalize is very specific and they weren't breaching anything @ that time.
(granted in law there are points that are too general; but they are heavily contested/ridiculed and eventually readdressed)

All my points are valid and come together form an overall argument. None of it is generalized nor false. The problem is that you can't hold a simple debate without resorting to childish cries and comparing me to the 14 dolla balla. (please don't compare me to him).

Here's a video of weapons they found on the ship. All of which they used to attack the incoming soldiers. Note the metal pipes, the knives, and slingshots. The fact that they had rocks collected in bottles is alarming. Did they plan out this whole confrontation or what. Why would they have all this shit if they were going in "peacefully."

Second half of the video is the weapons

belka 06-01-2010 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by m!chael (Post 6973765)
Why would they have all this shit if they were going in "peacefully."
They didn't plan on going peacefully, they just wanted another excuse to make Israel look bad - poking the sleeping dog. All they are doing is provoking Israel into a military retaliation, and if that happens, the bad guys usually die, spectacularly.

StylinRed 06-01-2010 04:44 PM
"why would they have all this shit if they were going in peacefully"

out of 7 cruise liner sized ships

they found a tables worth of hammers, wrenches? kitchen knives, a couple fishing knives... what looks to be a decorative knife... some broken wooden oars.... some wooden slingshots.. what looks to be a bottle of grease? (maybe its some Anthrax?!)

They didn't even show the usual Captains/xo's gun that you would find aboard ships....


I could go through any personal sized leisure ships in our ports and find more "weapons"

like i said explaining anything to you would be like trying to explain something to 14dollaballa or BradfordChow

I haven't cursed @ you, you have... or resorted to saying i could kick the shit out of you, you have...


That video reminds me of the USA and their Iraqi WMD's farce



Face it m!chael your a zionist

Alatar 06-01-2010 05:29 PM
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Moira of toyrkikoy Navy consisting of four frigates previously joined to exercise in the West and South of Crete and thereafter were reaching the port of Alexandria, arrived yesterday morning at the port of Cartagena in Spain and is expected to depart for If. Mediterranean. If a query is piped from Taranto or pleysoyn directly. In the new-paroxysmo othwmanismoy, Turkey reached point threatened new ships with humanitarian aid which will be sent to the Gaza Strip will escort warships of the Turkish Navy!

The Squadron consisting of two frigates MEKO-200 t, two o.h.perry (TCG Kemalreis, TCG Turgutreis, Gaziantep, TCG Giresun TCG) and the oil tanker "AKAR" and belong to the strength of the Turkish Mediterranean Sield task force. O Living force commander. Mücahit Şişlioğlu, interview on the frigate Gaziantep (h. Perry), yesterday in Spanish media, said that "follow the events and will act accordingly.

This is obviously going to absolutely unpredictable consequences.

Of course the Ankara will not venture beyond bermpalismoys to proceed to do so unless they decide to sacrifice beyond 10-20 extremists, as happened yesterday and some frigates. Israel has demonstrated that he means what it says.

Information from the Tel-Aviv reports that have been shelved all programs defense cooperation between the two countries and is also subject to continue traditions of systems.

The fact that all of the dead, even if it was not only peaceful activists, was a Turkish origin and on Turkish boat, considering the Turkish public opinion.

As is well known from yesterday, Turkey has withdrawn the Ambassador from Tel Aviv, while outside the threat escort ship ahead, threatened and unprecedented, incalculable retaliation ".

At least the Vice-President of the Turkish Prime Minister Bulent Arintz explained speaking in TRT ' cannot declare war-this would not be correct. Of course, and wanted to declare war could not have a common border and a "war" would be limited to aeronautical incidents known the outcome for the fate of the Turkish air force beforehand ... at the same time, the armed forces of Israel declared a State of alert pending possible missile attacks by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The Arab Union has convened an urgent meeting today Tuesday to settled on a common policy towards Israel.

Egypt leant to terminate its blockade of Gaza and know our country stopped yesterday the common ellinoϊsrailini exercise Minos 2010.

At present, there has been no official response from the USA, which are the closest ally of Israel.
Here's a different translation of it. A bit clearer.

m!chael 06-01-2010 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 6973902)
"why would they have all this shit if they were going in peacefully"

out of 7 cruise liner sized ships

they found a tables worth of hammers, wrenches? kitchen knives, a couple fishing knives... what looks to be a decorative knife... some broken wooden oars.... some wooden slingshots.. what looks to be a bottle of grease? (maybe its some Anthrax?!)

They didn't even show the usual Captains/xo's gun that you would find aboard ships....


I could go through any personal sized leisure ships in our ports and find more "weapons"

like i said explaining anything to you would be like trying to explain something to 14dollaballa or BradfordChow

I haven't cursed @ you, you have... or resorted to saying i could kick the shit out of you, you have...


That video reminds me of the USA and their Iraqi WMD's farce



Face it m!chael your a zionist
That's from the one ship that they boarded big guy. That bottle is a Molotov cocktail from what I can deduce, and those are weapons. If I attacked you with those and severely hurt you do you think I could use the same "oh those aren't really weapons" argument and get off scot free?

Damn right I'm a zionist, a pure blooded Israeli zionist at that and I'm gonna join the IDF when I'm done with university, as did many of my friends, and as will my children for generations on. And I'm saying for generations on because Israel isn't going anywhere. It's here to stay big guy, as much as you hate the idea of that. And that's actually why at the end of the day I win. Because no matter what you say, or how much e-arguing we do, my country exists and is going to for many many years.

Face it StylinRed, you're just an angry leftist.

cressydrift 06-01-2010 05:47 PM
^ What a joke.

vitaminG 06-01-2010 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by m!chael (Post 6973765)
All my points are valid and come together form an overall argument. None of it is generalized nor false. The problem is that you can't hold a simple debate without resorting to childish cries and comparing me to the 14 dolla balla. (please don't compare me to him).

Here's a video of weapons they found on the ship. All of which they used to attack the incoming soldiers. Note the metal pipes, the knives, and slingshots. The fact that they had rocks collected in bottles is alarming. Did they plan out this whole confrontation or what. Why would they have all this shit if they were going in "peacefully."

Second half of the video is the weapons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvS9P...layer_embedded
i dont like taking sides in this debate but all im seeing are literally sticks and stones, along with some other basic gear like flares, knives, and wrenches according to isreal i must have a full arsenal of weapons in my garage... what if they found my shovel, or my hockey stick?!?!

m!chael 06-01-2010 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by vitaminG (Post 6973997)
i dont like taking sides in this debate but all im seeing are literally sticks and stones, along with some other basic gear like flares, knives, and wrenches according to isreal i must have a full arsenal of weapons in my garage... what if they found my shovel, or my hockey stick?!?!
You're totally right man. Problem is that they used these weapons on the soldiers that boarded the ship...
Imagine you start hitting an rcmp officer with a metal pipe, or pull a knife on him..

Manic! 06-01-2010 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by m!chael (Post 6974006)
You're totally right man. Problem is that they used these weapons on the soldiers that boarded the ship...
Imagine you start hitting an rcmp officer with a metal pipe, or pull a knife on him..
If you don't want to get attacked don't try to illegally board someones ship in international waters. Common sense.

It's like someone breaking into your house and shooting you and then calming it was self defense because you hit him with a bat.

El Bastardo 06-01-2010 06:12 PM
For all of you in the North/South Korea thread -

If theres something that could lead to a serious war; its this.

Tegra_Devil 06-01-2010 06:17 PM
jews got some trouble coming.....and all they can do is blame themselves

probably not the smartest thing to attack soldiers with sticks though...they probably gonna shoot you...

m!chael 06-01-2010 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6974023)
jews got some trouble coming.....and all they can do is blame themselves

probably not the smartest thing to attack soldiers with sticks though...they probably gonna shoot you...
Why you mad though?

belka 06-01-2010 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6974023)
jews got some trouble coming.....and all they can do is blame themselves
Oh? From where is this "trouble" going to come from? We all know what happens when the Arabs attack Israel - major pwnage. Israel's enemies don't have a chance in hell in a conventional war, all they can do is sit back and launch home made rockets.

Tegra_Devil 06-01-2010 08:04 PM
Israel is the reason terrorists try to get nukes..

ericthehalfbee 06-01-2010 08:14 PM
This is what happens when two groups of people who don't really know the intentions of the others get thrown together in a highly volatile situation.

It's like having a room full of cops and mobsters all pointing guns at each other. Then one guy fires a shot for whatever reason (even accidentally) and the next thing you know everyone's shooting.


Both sides are equally at fault. The flotilla for ignoring warnings (for several days) and heading toward Gaza and the Israel army for boarding the ship at night and in such an "in your face" fashion.


Imagine how different this could have turned out if it happend in the middle of the day with clear visibility and everyone being able to see what was going on?

belka 06-01-2010 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6974176)
Israel is the reason terrorists try to get nukes..
Terrorists are the reason why Israel HAS nukes. If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there will be no more war, if the Jews put down their weapons, there will be no more Israel.

I'm so glad that religion can help bring peace to people's lives. It's the best thing man has ever created.

Tegra_Devil 06-01-2010 09:26 PM
Israelis are terrorists

impactX 06-01-2010 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6974254)
Israelis are terrorists
and Hamas aren't.

cressydrift 06-01-2010 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by belka (Post 6974196)
I'm so glad that religion can help bring peace to people's lives. It's the best thing man has ever created.
You keep telling yourself that.

StylinRed 06-01-2010 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by belka (Post 6974196)
Terrorists are the reason why Israel HAS nukes. If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there will be no more war, if the Jews put down their weapons, there will be no more Israel.

I'm so glad that religion can help bring peace to people's lives. It's the best thing man has ever created.
Then Israel shouldn't try selling Nukes to other countries ie South Africa, during the Apartheid Era regime

It was always suspected but dismissed as conspiracy but confidential South African documents were just released that shows Shimon Peres made a deal with South Africa to do just that... along with chemical/biological weapons aka Weapons of Mass Destruction

It's all over the news this past week.. except for televised mainstream western media (just google it)

The only reason South Africa didn't follow through with the deal was because they couldn't afford it.

However they DID BUY Tritium

but this is straying from the topic @ hand

Meowjin 06-02-2010 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Alatar (Post 6973964)
Here's a different translation of it. A bit clearer.
tourkikou = turkish in greek.

also like how I say I dislike zionists and I get called a racist.

its no diffrent saying that because I dislike the KKK (because they want a free white american country) that I'm racist.

Manic! 06-02-2010 01:11 PM
More Aid Ships Headed To Gaza, And Possibly The Turkish Navy As Well.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/mor...h_navy_as_well

belka 06-02-2010 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6975070)
More Aid Ships Headed To Gaza, And Possibly The Turkish Navy As Well.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/mor...h_navy_as_well
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ok85/daTOh.jpg

The Turks must have a death wish. The Israeli Navy will get some good training in the coming weeks.

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Israelis are terrorists
Probably the most idiotic thing I've heard. Thanks for playing.

Manic! 06-02-2010 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by belka (Post 6975080)
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ok85/daTOh.jpg

The Turks must have a death wish. The Israeli Navy will get some good training in the coming weeks.



Probably the most idiotic thing I've heard. Thanks for playing.
Then the Turks will close all the US airbases on there land and Israel will lose the only people in the middle east actually on speaking terms with them.


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