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fishing666 06-16-2010 12:37 AM

it could be a plus or minus adding 60mil ppl to this country. someone's gotta think of something to talk about. the news article is trolling.wut a troll.

Manic! 06-16-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 6993628)
instead of having more immigration we should just allow Poly-cultural-polygamy.

One man may have as many wives as he wants, but they must be of significantly different race.

Soon we will have 100million true CANADIENS who are all beige.

And we end up with a sausage fest because of the lack of females.


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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 6992699)
widespread immigration of a "certain" demographic in europe without integration/assimilation has lead to filmmakers being murdered, riots and writers having death threats issued against them.

and that has never happened in Canada???

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6992913)
I vote for not to increase the number of immigrants.

Those ppl won't even be loyal to this country. They won't even give a shit about this country. They will probably be the ones littering on the streets and increasing our taxes.

I call BS. Sikhs fought for Canada in WWI before they even had a right to vote.

Manic! 06-16-2010 01:13 AM

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iwantaskyline 06-16-2010 02:14 AM

Country's like Canada need immigration for the economy to grow. If we stopped immigration the population here would actually shrink. Same problem Japan has except they don't allow immigration easily, once all the baby boomers die their population is actually going to shrink.

akalic 06-16-2010 02:26 AM

think about how much more dangerous the roads would be in richmond

Sid Vicious 06-16-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6993710)
And we end up with a sausage fest because of the lack of females.




and that has never happened in Canada???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vezghxdXLUI



I call BS. Sikhs fought for Canada in WWI before they even had a right to vote.

Date: 1841

If you even think that political agitation is even close to the problem of islamic extremism well then you have a problem

# February 12, 1989: Six people are killed and 100 injured when 10,000 attack the American Cultural Center in Islamabad, Pakistan protesting against Rushdie and his book.[114]
# February 13, 1989: One person is killed and over 100 injured in anti-Rushdie riots in Srinagar, Jammu and Kashmir.[115][116]
# February 16, 1989: Various armed Islamist groups, such as Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp and Hezbollah of Lebanon, express their enthusiasm to "carry out the Imam's decree."[117] Rushdie enters the protection program of the British government.
# February 16, 2003: Iran's Revolutionary Guards reiterate the call for the assassination of Rushdie. As reported by the Sunday Herald, "Ayatollah Hassan Saneii, head of the semi-official Khordad Foundation that has placed a $2.8 million bounty on Rushdie's head, was quoted by the Jomhuri Islami newspaper as saying that his foundation would now pay $3 million to anyone who kills Rushdie."[129]

Theo Van Gogh worked with Somali-born writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali to produce the film Submission, which was critical of the treatment of women in Islam. On 2 November 2004 he was assassinated by Mohammed Bouyeri, a Dutch-Moroccan Muslim.

Tegra_Devil 06-16-2010 12:39 PM

we already have way too many problems with 'honour killings' in a small population...i dont think we need more

Manic! 06-16-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 6994162)
Date: 1841

If you even think that political agitation is even close to the problem of islamic extremism well then you have a problem

# February 12, 1989: Six people are killed and 100 injured when 10,000 attack the American Cultural Center in Islamabad, Pakistan protesting against Rushdie and his book.[114]
# February 13, 1989: One person is killed and over 100 injured in anti-Rushdie riots in Srinagar, Jammu and Kashmir.[115][116]
# February 16, 1989: Various armed Islamist groups, such as Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp and Hezbollah of Lebanon, express their enthusiasm to "carry out the Imam's decree."[117] Rushdie enters the protection program of the British government.
# February 16, 2003: Iran's Revolutionary Guards reiterate the call for the assassination of Rushdie. As reported by the Sunday Herald, "Ayatollah Hassan Saneii, head of the semi-official Khordad Foundation that has placed a $2.8 million bounty on Rushdie's head, was quoted by the Jomhuri Islami newspaper as saying that his foundation would now pay $3 million to anyone who kills Rushdie."[129]

Theo Van Gogh worked with Somali-born writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali to produce the film Submission, which was critical of the treatment of women in Islam. On 2 November 2004 he was assassinated by Mohammed Bouyeri, a Dutch-Moroccan Muslim.

You know there is a screening process that immigrants go threw. Notice all your examples are of Muslims? Just because some people act like idiots dose not mean we should close all doors.

Canada also has home grown terrorist like the person or people behind the encana pipeline bombings and eco terrorists who fire bomb building ans skipe tree's.

Manic! 06-16-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6994190)
we already have way too many problems with 'honour killings' in a small population...i dont think we need more

Canadians that are not immigrants do honor killings too but there just not called that by the media. A husband killing his wife would be called a honor killing if he was Muslim but not if was white.

Tegra_Devil 06-16-2010 02:28 PM

the difference between non immigrant canadian murders(yes i realize we are all truly immigrants) and immigrant religious extremists ...is we can stop the immigrant extremists from coming in.....where as, non-immigrants are unfortunately not as easy to get rid of.

Part 1 of fixing the problem, is immigrants
Part 2 is fixing our already existing canadian society

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'Honour killings' of females on rise in Canada

As many as 5,000 women and girls lose their lives — most at the hands of family members — in "honour killings" around the world each year, according to the United Nations.

Up to a dozen have died for the same reason in Canada in the last decade, and it's happening more often, says Amin Muhammad, a psychiatrist who studies honour killings at Memorial University in Newfoundland.

"There are a number of organizations which don't accept the idea of honour killing; they say it's a Western-propagated myth by the media, but it's not true," he says. "Honour killing is there, and we should acknowledge it, and Canada should take it seriously."

Kingston, Ont., police are now investigating that as a motive in the deaths of three teenage sisters and an older female relative who were found in a car submerged in the Rideau Canal in Kingston on June 30. The girls' mother, father and brother were arrested on Wednesday and charged with first-degree murder.

"In our Canadian society, we value the cultural values of everyone that makes up this great country, and some of us have different core beliefs, different family values, different sets of rules," Kingston Police Chief Stephen Tanner said at a news conference on Thursday. "Certainly, these individuals — in particular, the three teenagers — were Canadian teenagers who have all the freedom and rights of expression of all Canadians."

He added that he'd received an e-mail from an extended family member of the girls, suggesting honour killing was to blame for their deaths.

Honour killings can be sparked by a woman talking to a man, having a boyfriend, wearing makeup or revealing clothing, or even seeking a divorce, says Diana Nammi, founder of the London-based International Campaign Against Honour Killings. Nammi, originally from Iran, says children of immigrants who grow up in western nations take those freedoms for granted, which can throw them into conflict with their parents' rigid standards.

"When people are moving to another country, they leave everything they have, all their possessions, behind. But what they can bring with them is what they believe, their culture, their traditions, their religion," she says. "Unfortunately, they are choosing to show the worst part of that, and the worst and criminal part of that is controlling women."

One of the earliest honour killings involving a Canadian occurred in 2000, when Maple Ridge, B.C., resident Jaswinder Sidhu was murdered in India in what police called a contract killing, after she married a man she met while travelling.

In 2003, Amandeep Atwal, 17, died after her father stabbed her 17 times. The Kitimat, B.C., teen had been secretly seeing a boyfriend.

Sixteen-year-old Aqsa Parvez's father and brother are currently awaiting trial for her strangulation death in 2007, and friends said the Brampton, Ont., teen had been clashing with her family over her refusal to wear the hijab.

In May, an Ottawa man was sentenced to life in prison for killing his sister, Khatera Sadiqi, 20, and her fiance.

"We cannot say there's a huge number of cases, but now the cases are increasing, and very soon we'll have a problem in Canada," says Muhammad.

Men occasionally die in honour killings, he says, but young women are almost always the victims in western countries.

Honour killing is most prevalent in nations with large Muslim populations, but Aysan Sev'er, a professor of sociology at University of Toronto Scarborough and author of an upcoming book on the subject, says there's nothing in Islam that sanctions the practice. Some perpetrators use religion as a "cloak," she says, but honour killing is about patriarchy, not religion.

"A few women are really sacrificed to terrorize all women, to push them into submission, where they are not in the position to defend themselves or even their daughters or sisters," Sev'er says.

It's wrong-headed to blame particular cultures or further stereotype the Middle East, she emphasizes, but Canada cannot overlook the motivation for these "heinous crimes."

"In Canada, we have been extremely culturally sensitive, and that's a good thing," she says. "But in this particular case, we may have pushed the pendulum a little to the other side, in the sense that there are cultural components in these types of crimes which we cannot ignore."

Sgt_Koopa 06-16-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6992601)

I already have enough problems with the amount of FOBS driving on the streets, I couldnt handle 3 times more FOBS!...id start killing people with 3 times the rage.

Speaking of FOBs


Manic! 06-16-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6994305)
t

Part 1 of fixing the problem, is immigrants

Why should 4 or 5 people ruin all the benefits of having immigrants come to Canada?

Why not ban skiing because a few people ski out of bounds and die every year.

Tegra_Devil 06-16-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6994441)
Why should 4 or 5 people ruin all the benefits of having immigrants come to Canada?

Why not ban skiing because a few people ski out of bounds and die every year.

a lot more than 4 or 5...

Manic! 06-16-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6994451)
a lot more than 4 or 5...

a month, a year, a decade?

"Up to a dozen have died for the same reason in Canada in the last decade"

http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1821919

optiblue 06-16-2010 07:37 PM

LOL, it's funny because wages haven't been raising as fast as cost of living in Canada... all the newspapers are talking about how there are more seniors than young people nowadays!

orange7 06-16-2010 07:45 PM

well if we must have immigrants. Then we should only allow females to immigrate into Canada. There should also be a screening test to ensure they are no surprises.

impactX 06-16-2010 07:47 PM

The infrastructure can't support 100M people.

orange7 06-16-2010 07:50 PM

do we even have enough school for 100M ppl?

plus what about health care cost???

Manic! 06-16-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6994636)
do we even have enough school for 100M ppl?

plus what about health care cost???

Schools are not a finite resource, we can always build more it's not like we don't have the space.

http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/pop...tydensityl.htm

Pop. Density
COUNTRY (per 1 Sq Km)

9 Canada 3
51 USA 30.71
161 UK 246.88
192 Monaco 16,205.00

orange7 06-16-2010 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6994703)
Schools are not a finite resource, we can always build more it's not like we don't have the space.

http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/pop...tydensityl.htm

Pop. Density
COUNTRY (per 1 Sq Km)

9 Canada 3
51 USA 30.71
161 UK 246.88
192 Monaco 16,205.00


data is kinda rigged..

you can't really expect ppl to live up in North Canada.
That space should be taken out of the calculation or be adjusted.

Manic! 06-16-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6994718)
data is kinda rigged..

you can't really expect ppl to live up in North Canada.
That space should be taken out of the calculation or be adjusted.

Then you might as well include mountains, lakes and other things. Canada is the the second largest country in the world with a population smaller than Tokyo Japan.

http://www.mongabay.com/igapo/cities.htm

34,997,269 Tokyo Japan
33,311,400 Canada

goo3 06-16-2010 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 6994305)
'Honour killings' of females on rise in Canada

As many as 5,000 women and girls lose their lives — most at the hands of family members — in "honour killings" around the world each year, according to the United Nations.

holy shit, immigrants are scary.

i'm gonna stop talking to them in real life - they're giving me the wrong impression!

Tegra_Devil 06-16-2010 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt_Koopa (Post 6994405)

i feel really bad, but 1:38 makes me laugh a little

iwantaskyline 06-17-2010 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by impactX (Post 6994632)
The infrastructure can't support 100M people.

Did you even read the article? He doesn't want 100 M immigrants to magically appear today. Obviously the current infrastructure isn't enough. If immigration increases gradually over the years the infrastructure will also improve. Common sense.


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