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^ Doubt it, hotdogs in downtown are already 5 bucks or so. People are always intrigued by "new stuff". I want my damn "satay" swekers!
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07-09-2010, 11:30 PM
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‘nutritious, exciting’ = Expensive and small in portion.
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07-09-2010, 11:35 PM
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^ hahah True.
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07-09-2010, 11:58 PM
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I sure hope it's not like the street food in Toronto....cheap but tastes like cardboard.
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07-13-2010, 01:52 PM
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Food cart alert: Re-Up offering first 50 guests free samples of Southern BBQ. Seawall, near 2065 Beach, 7:30 pm http://ow.ly/2b1Ti | |
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07-20-2010, 01:43 PM
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#56 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Here's an update on the preparedness of the food carts: Quote: Some newly approved street food vendors lack kitchens required by health authority
By Cheryl Rossi, Vancouver Courier July 20, 2010
Street food vending lottery winner David Duprey isn’t worried about getting a permit from Vancouver Coastal Health to sling chocolate-smothered bananas at Kits Beach. Duprey, owner of the Rickshaw Theatre, has a Vancouver Coastal Health-approved kitchen at his Narrow Lounge and a loading dock off another property he subleases where he expects to clean and store his future food cart.
Vancouver Coastal Health requires street food vendors to have a FoodSafe certificate, a food safety plan and a base of operations where they can clean, store and restock their food cart, trailer or truck. In most cases, a trailer with water, cooking facilities and refrigeration can’t be considered a base of operations, said Richard Taki, regional director of health protection for Vancouver Coastal Health.
“We’re going to look at all the menus on an individual basis,” Taki said. “The more complex the food in terms of preparation, it results in greater food handling and also the risk of food-borne illness… In a lot of places, they do not have that equipment needed to basically produce the food in a safe manner.”
Jenn Willoughby of the fledgling Off the Truck taco trailer told the Courier last week that she and her partner haven’t been able to secure a permit from Vancouver Coastal Health.
Hot dog hawkers in Vancouver haven’t faced the same requirements because their product requires less preparation.
In Portland, most buses and trailers selling food prepare their fare ahead of time in a permitted kitchen and reheat it where it’s sold, Taki said.
He said local food vendors aren’t permitted to prepare items in their homes because the city doesn’t license home businesses. Inspectors need to be able to check kitchens at all times and home kitchens pose an increased risk of contamination.
“It sounds bureaucratic until someone gets food poisoning or you get a rash outbreak,” Taki said. “And then it’s like, ‘Why didn’t someone put something in place?’”
Vendors can use kitchens in restaurants and community centres. Some companies that sell food carts also have kitchens available.
Taki said last week he was surprised at the dearth of calls health protection received from potential and winning vendors in the city’s lottery for 17 spots on July 9. But Vancouver Coastal Health received calls from entrepreneurs considering establishing kitchens where street vendors could cook and store their food and vehicles.
The PHS Community Services Society has asked Duprey if he’d be interested in using its kitchen while providing prep skills or sales jobs to PHS clients. The clients help prepare meals that are delivered to needy residents of low-income hotels. They work under the guidance of professional chefs, have FoodSafe certificates and wear gloves when handling food.
Duprey isn’t sure whether he’ll accept the offer.
Claudia Kurzac, acting manager for health protection, doesn’t expect all 17 new food vendors to be operational by July 31, as per the city’s goal.
“It sounds like some went into the lottery without even a business plan and don’t even have an actual trailer or cart and would have to manufacture that first, never mind even find a base of operation,” Kurzac said. “Some are ready to go with everything, some are in the middle of the process and some have a lot of work to do.”
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| While food safety is important, the need for a "base of operations" (essentially a euphemism for a commercial kitchen) is a little onerous and limits the profitability of a food cart operation to current restaurant owners (which will typically translate into higher prices which defeats the purpsoe of having street food.)
I'm not familiar with how the Richmond Night Market and the local Health Authority's inspection process works, but surely it's less onerous than Vancouver's because to me, it seems that regular folks can open a food stand and hope to turn a profit. In Asia, where street food is common and sanitation practices are more dubious, I haven't heard of cases of mass food poisoning. Perhaps a little risk-management is in order here?
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07-20-2010, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tapioca  I'm not familiar with how the Richmond Night Market and the local Health Authority's inspection process works, but surely it's less onerous than Vancouver's because to me, it seems that regular folks can open a food stand and hope to turn a profit. In Asia, where street food is common and sanitation practices are more dubious, I haven't heard of cases of mass food poisoning. Perhaps a little risk-management is in order here? | Summer Night Market has the same requirements.
If you want to open a food stall then you're required to have a base of operations in a community kitchen or restaurant kitchen and have documentation of that.
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07-20-2010, 02:03 PM
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^ Ah, okay.
Well, it'll be interesting to see what will happen on July 31st. We might have two or three stands running and then the media will be ripping the city for failing to deliver the program. Should be lots of fun.
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07-20-2010, 11:29 PM
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this thread is making me so hungry
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07-20-2010, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ch28 Summer Night Market has the same requirements.
If you want to open a food stall then you're required to have a base of operations in a community kitchen or restaurant kitchen and have documentation of that. | Huh, I did not know that.
I was considering doing a berry slush stand.
But now I know.
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07-30-2010, 08:21 AM
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#61 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Surprise, surprise - none of the actual lottery winners will be ready tomorrow. Quote:
Enter the Dragon: A street-food revolution begins with a whimper
Robert Matas
Vancouver — From Friday's Globe and Mail
Published on Friday, Jul. 30, 2010 3:00AM EDT
Last updated on Friday, Jul. 30, 2010 11:26AM EDT
Roaming Dragon opened for business this week, offering a tantalizing choice of Asian duck confit salad, Japanese chicken karaage, Korean short rib tacos and Chinese pork belly sliders.
The sleek new food-vending truck, parked a stone’s throw from popular Kitsilano Beach, is the first street vendor in Vancouver to offer more than hot dogs under a much-anticipated pilot project intended to inject a bit of sophistication and fun into the city’s street culture.
But the project has hit a rough spot. None of the 17 winners in city hall’s lottery for locations is expected to meet Saturday’s much-anticipated deadline for opening. Roaming Dragon, which was not one of the winners, managed to open only by finding a winner to pay for use of the site.
The project has degenerated into a money grab by some businessmen trying to sell their prized locations for exorbitant prices: One asked for a cheque of $18,000 upfront to cover the first five months of business; another wanted a 50-per-cent interest in the vending operation.
Also, the lottery for spaces may not have drawn as much interest as the city has said. Some businessmen had family and friends put in applications on their behalf in an effort to improve their chances of winning spaces. Winners who were placeholders had no intentions of ever opening a business at the locations.
And the city may not have the variety of food it anticipated: The lottery winners are free to change their menus to whatever they wish.
Jennifer Willoughby, an unsuccessful bidder with a taco cart called Off the Wagon, said the process of selecting food carts was a sham. “[City hall] did not think this thing through,” Ms. Willoughby said. “It was very Mickey Mouse. They had a grand idea, but the process, well, it was pretty sad.”
The expansion of street food had been announced with considerable fanfare. “We’ve got a world-class city and people want a world-class street food scene to match,” Mayor Gregor Robertson has said. The councillors decided to update a city bylaw that restricted street food mostly to hot dogs, popcorn and chestnuts.
The city’s plan required vendors to be prepared to begin operations by July 31. The city said around 800 applications had been received. The winners and alternates, announced July 9, offered a variety of food from dim sum to borscht. They were then required to obtain a health permit before a city licence would be issued.
By Wednesday, health officials had approved only two vendors: an Italian stone-ground pizza cart which is planning to open on Tuesday, and a fresh, frozen and chocolate-covered fruit stand in Kitsilano that will eventually share the spot with Roaming Dragon.
Jason Apple and Jory Simkin, the operators of Roaming Dragon, had been working on their business plan for months. Their specially designed $150,000 truck is fitted with wireless to expedite ordering, point-of-sale technology connected to the Internet and up-to-date appliances. Mr. Apple said he made an arrangement to share the Kitsilano spot – Roaming Dragon will take evenings – after speaking to city officials about “this black market” in locations.
City officials did not discourage it, he said. “The city is handing over a licence and enabling people to become landlords,” Mr. Apple said. “It’s pretty crazy, isn’t it. They just rent it out. They do not do anything except collect a cheque.”
City Councillor Heather Deal, who has championed the expansion of street-food fare for the past two years, was optimistic that the new food options would soon be on the street.
She was not concerned about the secondary market. The city’s goal was to provide a wide variety of safe, healthy and interesting food, she said. “It’s going to be market driven, it is going to be entrepreneurial,” she said, shrugging off concerns about the black market.
She anticipated as many as six spots may be open within the next week. The vendors could not meet the deadline because they all ordered their carts at the same time, she said. “That was one of the unintended consequences of this great success, with so may people excited and doing this,” she said.
The lottery was meant to be a process for having something on the street for this summer, and the city did not have time for a more complicated approval process, she said. “This was meant to get the system jump-started, to get people out there with exciting food and show that we could do this by this summer,” she said. By next summer, she anticipated a different process and several more locations.
| Coun. Heather Deal has defended this pretty poorly - the least she could have done was to admit some mistakes and say that they're rectifying things.
Regarding the pizza truck winner (not mentioned here), the guy runs Ragazzi Pizza on Renfrew and 22nd. They truly make great authentic pizza, but I don't know how he's going to sell pizza on the street for $3/slice when we're used to paying Uncle Fatih's/Megabite for $1.75-$2/slice.
The southern BBQ cart which will be up at the Art Gallery, ReUpBBQ, is opening on August 9. I've been following their Twitter feed a bit, and they're offering pulled pork sandwiches initially.
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07-30-2010, 10:42 AM
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id support a taco stand.
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08-04-2010, 12:23 PM
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An update:
Ragazzi Pizza has started selling their pizza out of a truck on Burrard between Pender and Hastings. Slices are $3 plus HST. They have 4 varieties - Hawaiian, Pepperoni, Prosciutto and Mushroom and a Primavera/Vegetarian. There was a line-up of about 5 deep during lunch hour today.
A coworker of mine tried the Roaming Dragon fare the other day. He mentioned that the korean bbq short-rib tacos were good, but rather smallish at $6 for 2.
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08-04-2010, 03:31 PM
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^ i think these stand r only good for a snack. If u want a full meal, I doubt the portion will be enough.
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08-05-2010, 06:19 AM
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#65 | | ESKETIT
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raggazi pizza is that the place thats across from renfrew community center? sounds familiar
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08-05-2010, 12:48 PM
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Do other provinces have such strict policies regarding having off-site facilities for cleanliness and storage?
I wonder if we'll see a Chip wagon soon like in OTT.
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08-05-2010, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tapioca An update:
Ragazzi Pizza has started selling their pizza out of a truck on Burrard between Pender and Hastings. Slices are $3 plus HST. They have 4 varieties - Hawaiian, Pepperoni, Prosciutto and Mushroom and a Primavera/Vegetarian. There was a line-up of about 5 deep during lunch hour today.
A coworker of mine tried the Roaming Dragon fare the other day. He mentioned that the korean bbq short-rib tacos were good, but rather smallish at $6 for 2. | $3 for one slice? They better be big.
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08-06-2010, 08:56 AM
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#68 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by Amuse $3 for one slice? They better be big. | No, they're about average size. I had 2 the other day and I was full for about 4 hours.
You could say that they're competing in the mid-range pizza market against a shop like Flying Wedge.
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08-06-2010, 10:27 AM
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prosciutto mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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08-06-2010, 02:07 PM
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#70 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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A couple more carts should be coming online next week.
Panda Fresh Bakery - located at Pacific and Drake. There's a feature in the Richmond Review: http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/100042419.html
ReUpBBQ - located at Georgia and Howe.
Both carts still need to pass inspections.
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08-09-2010, 12:02 PM
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During my lunch hour stroll, I walked by the Art Gallery to check out if reupbbq had opened. As I walked by, they just opened for business with about 10 people waiting in line. Since I had already eaten lunch, I talked to one of the owners instead about the menu and operating hours:
- Just pulled pork sandwiches for now at $6 (roughly the size of a large hamburger)
- Operating hours will be from 11 AM to 9ish, Monday through Friday, with some limited weekend openings depending on demand
The trailer, a plain stainless steel box, sits on the Hornby side of the Art Gallery property.
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08-09-2010, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tapioca During my lunch hour stroll, I walked by the Art Gallery to check out if reupbbq had opened. As I walked by, they just opened for business with about 10 people waiting in line. Since I had already eaten lunch, I talked to one of the owners instead about the menu and operating hours:
- Just pulled pork sandwiches for now at $6 (roughly the size of a large hamburger)
- Operating hours will be from 11 AM to 9ish, Monday through Friday, with some limited weekend openings depending on demand
The trailer, a plain stainless steel box, sits on the Hornby side of the Art Gallery property. | Dinner tonight  | |
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08-09-2010, 09:49 PM
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#73 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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What re-up is serving. I'm looking forward to trying this sometime this week:  | |
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08-10-2010, 05:28 PM
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i hope the satay is malaysian-authentic
there isn't too much authentic malaysian food in this city
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Originally Posted by Tapioca What re-up is serving. I'm looking forward to trying this sometime this week: | link fail
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