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syee 07-07-2010 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strzelec (Post 7019915)
SSD is a whole different ball game. Especially with a decent one, you can get insane read and write speeds.
Building the computer is easy. Follow those steps, look in the manual if you have trouble, and definitely remember to discharge yourself. I fried an expensive board like that, learned my lesson the hard way.
Well, technically write speeds aren't exactly great for SSD's - they're probably on par with a regular disk based HD (for the better ones or drives in RAID 0). OS installation will be mostly writes and not so many reads (which is what SSD's really excel at).

Well, we're going a bit off topic here so back to the OP's original question.

I think if you want to learn, post up what you want to put together and we'll critique it and check it for compatibility. I'm sure any of the folks here will be willing to help if you run into any problems. Get your hands dirty! :D

FerrariEnzo 07-07-2010 04:07 PM
man have you heard some guy in australia built a system with 21 1TB drives in array...
didnt even take 10 secs and it defrag the drive! :drool

q0192837465 07-08-2010 03:33 PM
man, this thread takes me back to my highschool days when my frds & I tackled our first computer. It's a definitely a great experience to have. Do it a few times & it'll be as east as cake.

Ch28 07-08-2010 03:59 PM
Another thing you can do is post up your budget and somebody on here will just configure one for ya and link you to the parts. I know that's what a lot of members have done in the past.

sas 07-08-2010 04:41 PM
Quote:
Another thing you can do is post up your budget and somebody on here will just configure one for ya and link you to the parts. I know that's what a lot of members have done in the past.
My budget is $350. I already have a hard drive (500GB 7200 rpm 16mb cache- thats all I know). Not really looking for crazy gaming or video editing- I just want a reliable machine that can run excel with other apps at the same time. Really, this is more for learning than using. I'm on the go most of the time so I rely on my laptop.

Thanks for tips everybody, look forward to sourcing my parts.

Any forums you guys use?

illicitstylz 07-08-2010 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sas (Post 7021300)
My budget is $350. I already have a hard drive (500GB 7200 rpm 16mb cache- thats all I know). Not really looking for crazy gaming or video editing- I just want a reliable machine that can run excel with other apps at the same time. Really, this is more for learning than using. I'm on the go most of the time so I rely on my laptop.

Thanks for tips everybody, look forward to sourcing my parts.

Any forums you guys use?
Is this everything BUT the HDD?

so $350 for:
-monitor
-case
-power supply
-motherboard
-processor
-ram
-keyboard
-mouse


if so, that's pretty hard..

sas 07-09-2010 12:39 AM
Quote:
Is this everything BUT the HDD?

so $350 for:
-monitor
-case
-power supply
-motherboard
-processor
-ram
-keyboard
-mouse


if so, that's pretty hard..
I have the hard drive, monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS and that's about it. Is $350 not doable?

Manic! 07-09-2010 01:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sas (Post 7021946)
I have the hard drive, monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS and that's about it. Is $350 not doable?
Is doable.

Lots of budget combos on newegg.ca

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboBu...t=Combo.432200

Ugly case.

Something from Tiger Direct

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...847&CatId=3446

FerrariEnzo 07-09-2010 05:36 AM
newegg doesnt ship to canada, do they.. when i emailed them few years ago, they said they dont..

anyways

NCIX

NCIX Bundle Deal Intel Celeron Dual Core E3300 & Foxconn G41S-K DDR2 Motherboard & Logisys 460W Case - $149.99

Kingston ValueRAM KVR800D2N5/2G PC2-6400 2GB 1X2GB DDR2-800 240PIN DIMM Memory - $47.99

Total - $225.70
All that includes Case, CPU (dual core celeron), Mobo (onboard sound and video), power supply and Ram.

Ferra 07-09-2010 06:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo (Post 7022055)
newegg doesnt ship to canada, do they.. when i emailed them few years ago, they said they dont..

anyways

NCIX

NCIX Bundle Deal Intel Celeron Dual Core E3300 & Foxconn G41S-K DDR2 Motherboard & Logisys 460W Case - $149.99

Kingston ValueRAM KVR800D2N5/2G PC2-6400 2GB 1X2GB DDR2-800 240PIN DIMM Memory - $47.99

Total - $225.70
All that includes Case, CPU (dual core celeron), Mobo (onboard sound and video), power supply and Ram.
newegg.ca does
I'd definitely want to go with something more powerful than a Celeron E3300

sas 07-09-2010 09:45 AM
That first one from newegg seems decent no?

And can you guys give some info AMD vs Intel? You don't need much L2 cache if you don't do any video editing correct?

Is 4GB of Ram sufficient thesedays?

Manic! 07-09-2010 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sas (Post 7022234)
That first one from newegg seems decent no?

And can you guys give some info AMD vs Intel? You don't need much L2 cache if you don't do any video editing correct?

Is 4GB of Ram sufficient thesedays?
4 gigs its enough you could even go with 2 gigs if you want to stay within your budget.

Purely 07-09-2010 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sas (Post 7021946)
I have the hard drive, monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS and that's about it. Is $350 not doable?
$350 is very doable..

I built a new rig 2 weeks ago
500w OCZ modxstream $$29(after MIR)
AMD Athlon x3 440 $81
4gb DDR3 G skill ram $101
Gigabyte DDR3 880gm-udh2 (has onboard Hd 4250 if you want to game @ low settings for newer games) $90
Total with tax.. is like $350~

Osaka 07-09-2010 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo (Post 7022055)
newegg doesnt ship to canada, do they.. when i emailed them few years ago, they said they dont..

anyways

NCIX

NCIX Bundle Deal Intel Celeron Dual Core E3300 & Foxconn G41S-K DDR2 Motherboard & Logisys 460W Case - $149.99

Kingston ValueRAM KVR800D2N5/2G PC2-6400 2GB 1X2GB DDR2-800 240PIN DIMM Memory - $47.99

Total - $225.70
All that includes Case, CPU (dual core celeron), Mobo (onboard sound and video), power supply and Ram.

Newegg.com has great deals that you won't find on Newegg.ca, just order those promo deals and have it shipped to Pt. Roberts, pick them up and clear it through customs yourself. Still worth it IMO.

FerrariEnzo 07-09-2010 04:55 PM
haha i just realized that theres a Newegg.ca.. i only thought there was only newegg.com, the USA one.. haha

damn.. i think i will shop at newegg now..

syee 07-09-2010 09:40 PM
Newegg.ca's prices after shipping and taxes end up being pretty close to what you pay at NCIX. At least at NCIX, I get instant gratification.

underscore 07-09-2010 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7017368)
yea i think i actually fried a HD from static if thats possible.. or else buddy just sold me a faulty HD lol
it has a circuit board, so yes you could have. most ESD (electro static discharge) kills things over time though, so while you might not fry a component immediately, you can greatly shorten it's life by not handling things properly.


Quote:
Originally Posted by asian_XL (Post 7017756)
If you know how to disassemble a computer completely, then it's not hard to build one back.

Here's a quick installation guide

1) Prepare the case (open the case up)
2) install the studs on the backplate for motherboard mounting
--------------------------------------------------------------
3) Install CPU
4) put thermal paste on the CPU
5) Install CPU heatsink and fan
6) Install Ram
7) Mount the Motherboard inside the case
--------------------------------------------------------------
8) Mount the PSU, Hard Drive, DVD, card reader (USB powered) and video card
9) Fap for 10 minutes celebrating it is half way completed
10) Read the motherboard manual to wire the case (power/LED/USB/reset)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
11) Data cables for HD and DVD
12) Power cables for Case, HD, DVD, Motherboard, Video Card, and Fans.
13) Check video cable, keyboard/mouse cable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
14) Fap for another 10 minutes celebrating it is 99% completed
15) Testing
The thermal paste is something that many, many people screw up. This is actually where I suggest the OP be the most careful.

I would also suggest running a program like Speedfan after assembly to make sure everything is running well.

sas 11-03-2010 02:41 PM
Ok, time to bump this thread. I have decided I want to be able to run some games- started to play Live for Speed and quite enjoy it. But for the most part, just excel, access, Eviews etc..


Before I pull the trigger and purchase, suggestions/critique?

1. Motherboard: I've decided I'm going to go with an AMD for budget reasons. Should I splurge for an core i3 or 5?

ASUS M4A79XTD Evo $110

2. CPU

AMD Athlon II x4 635 Quad Core Processor $113

3. PSU

This is where I am confused. Can I go with a cheaper option? Am I paying for the name with this choice?

OCZ FATAL1TY 550W $80

4. Ram -4GB

Kingston HyperX KHX1800C9D3K2 $108

5. Video Card

Sapphire Radeon HD 5670 $106

And I already have a 500GB HD and sound card. Last on my list is the case and an optical drive. Anything else I am forgetting?

And more importantly, is this a good way to spend $580? (there are rebates on everything but I didn't factor that in yet).

Can't wait to try and put it together- I think thats what I'm more excited about.


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