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Old 07-17-2010, 07:14 AM   #1
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Maryland Judge Decrees Pontiac G8 GT Tail Lights Illegal

A Maryland judge issued an $85 fine to the owner of a Pontiac G8 GT for illegal tail lights, despite being factory-installed and approved by the US Department of Transportation. She's promised to keep fining him. Judicial activism, FTL!

Forum member "jackalope" at G8Board.com was ticketed by a Maryland officer who claimed he was sporting illegal tail lights. After amassing a healthy amount of evidence proving he hadn't modified his car and it was approved for sale by the Department of Transportation, he went to court confident the ticket would be dismissed, only to find the contrary. We'll let him tell you how it all went down:



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Went to court for my clear tail lights on my car and was found guilty!
The judge actualy told me she didn't care what the manufacturer said, what the federal govt said, what the DOT # stamped onto my taillights said if the officer says my lights aren't legal then they're not legal. I took the G8 sales brochure in along with pics of my car and other G8 GT's and the VIN trace by 3 different dealers saying my lights were factory none of it mattered she found me guilty of failing to display or reflect red light on the rear of the car. Didn't matter the reflecters were in the bumper, didn't matter where the light is has that little red circle, the whole lens isn't red so they're not legal. Also where the back-up and turn signals are should be the reflectors according to the cop so the V6 cars lights aren't legal either.
Judge stupid went on to tell me that maybe I should consider trading in or selling the car since its not legal in MD and that I'm going to continue to get the $60 tickets till I get rid of the car.
So I contacted Pontiac's 1-800 # and I have an apt next friday to have my car looked at by them and see if they can help or at least repay me the $85.50 fine and court costs.
I honestly don't know what else I can do. The cop was ALL smiles afterwards and winked at me! WTF! Now I'm screwed! How do I go to work now? I drive right thru where he works!! So this ass nuget can make up **** randomly for any car he gets a hard on for and nothing can be done to fight it!
This is BS.
The problem centers around the clear lens tail lights and bumper-mounted reflectors of the Pontiac G8 GT model. Because the red area in the lenses is reduced in the G8 GT, there are reflectors mounted in the bumper to reflect additional light and bring the reflective requirements into spec. Th officer and by extension the judge considered them illegal.

Now, we can understand Mr. Jackalope's momentary lack of respect for the legal system above — this is B.S., but he's got legitimate cause to be pissed. He bought a car he assumed to fall within the operations laws of all states and which was in reality approved for nationwide sale by the government. According to the Judge, the opinion of an Officer of the Law supersedes what the Federal government approved for sale and the design somehow doesn't jive with what the State of Maryland considers legal.

One of the other forum members has offered up legal service to fight the fine, but it makes us wonder if all the G8 GT drivers in Maryland now have something to worry about. Should motorists who've bought a car approved by the Federal government be worried about being arbitrarily fined by a Judge who seems to side with the opinion of an officer over the law. [G8Board thread]

Send an email to Ben, the author of this post, at ben@jalopnik.com.

source: http://jalopnik.com/5589270/maryland...lights-illegal
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a) its a pontiac g8 so in reality no one really cares

b) now that this story is on the interwebz it will only be a matter of time till the powers that be get a hold of the story and this guy will get to piss on the judges seat and this bs of a fine will get overturned.
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G8 wasnt a very popular car but it is a monster of a car

Pontiac with m5 numbers


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sucks for him, but that's a beast of a car
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:17 AM   #5
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can you not go to the cop station , get it reviewed by the captain , and go from there?
kind of like a second opinion from the cop station?
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so its the lack of reflector from the taillights thats illegal?

what about


or many more cars thats on the streets... are they all going to get ticketed? or just Pontiacs?

cant the guy get tickets paid by Pontiac, since they say its legal and INSTALLED it in the first place
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wow this is fucked up eh?
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OE tails being deemed illegal, guy should contact the DOT
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WOW! This is just plain stupid.
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Hmm this brings up a concern to a lot of things for people then?

A lot of european cars come with factory smoked -.-
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The Judge is retarded. Correct course of action now is to complain about the Judge.
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I got pulled over once in my is300 the cop said I had installed aftermarket tail lights when they're stock, so to prove him wrong, I took my tail light out of the chassis then showed him the toyota stamp, he then said your car is a lexus why is there a toyota stamp, I got pissed off and yelled "lexus IS toyota" so he said ok, srry and let me leave.
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They aint retarded down there.
They just havent seen any vehicle newer or nicer then a 1976 ford f250.
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isn't GM going to be bringint out a new chevrolet caprice cop car, which is essentially a rehashed pontiac g8? wouldn't it be ironic if this cop gets her crown vic replaced by a new caprice and it has the same tailights on it... she can write tickets to herself all day long.
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damn it, that would piss me off sooo much lol
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I got pulled over once in my is300 the cop said I had installed aftermarket tail lights when they're stock, so to prove him wrong, I took my tail light out of the chassis then showed him the toyota stamp, he then said your car is a lexus why is there a toyota stamp, I got pissed off and yelled "lexus IS toyota" so he said ok, srry and let me leave.
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haha so you carry tools with you all the time?
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Too bad this isn't happening in Vancouver, all the Altezza taillights would've been VI'd
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werent there a few STi's locally that was getting tickets for the big wing?
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werent there a few STi's locally that was getting tickets for the big wing?
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^ If it's wider than your car body I think you can get a VI.
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