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johny 08-04-2010 09:58 PM

think you own your house? think again
 
thanks to Pierre Trudeau who purposely left property rights out of our charter. we don't own anything in Canada. you simply lease it from the gov. many times they have taken items and property from people. today they did it again.

coles notes. gold company finds gold in rual city. wants to open pit mine the whole place. buys 204 propertys from owners above vaule. owners take money and are happy. 205th house refuses to sell and move.

gov says GTFO. mining company has rights to the gold under your house. but you have no rights to own your house.

it's been going on for while, but now the final judge decession is in

granted, the guy is a dumb ass refusing $350k for a house worth 14k. but that doesn't give the gov. the right to take it away.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1...d_mine_holdout

By Andy Blatchford, The Canadian Press


MONTREAL - A man's dream to keep his roost atop a gold mine has been buried by a Quebec judge.

Ken Masse's childhood house is the last obstacle standing in the way of a multibillion-dollar mining project in the town of Malartic. But he has refused to budge.

Masse, 35, balked at lucrative offers for his mother's home and stared down an expropriation order, even after the neighbourhood was transformed from residential area to wasteland.

But Masse's stance buckled Tuesday under a Superior Court judge's order that awarded Osisko Mining Corp. possession of the property.

Osisko warns that Masse now has until Monday to get out.

In his ruling, Justice Robert Dufresne wrote that Masse's house is holding back key preparation work for the mining project, set to exploit one of Canada's largest gold reserves.

The former Malartic municipal councillor, who has been representing his mother, said he turned down a $350,000 offer from Osisko for his $14,000 house.

According to court documents, the family had been seeking $1 million from the mining company.

Now they will receive market-level compensation determined by a provincial tribunal in exchange for the home. Osisko must also provide additional sums to help defray the costs of moving.

The reclusive, thick-bearded man has said his fight wasn't about money, but about protecting property rights and the environment from a massive open-pit mine.

Supporters of the project, including Malartic's mayor, say Osisko will bring tax revenue and jobs to the declining mining town located about 550 kilometres northwest of Montreal.

Mayor Andre Vezeau hopes the ruling means the town of 3,500 can finally turn the page and get to work.

"Most people find it a shame that Mr. Masse is left with so little when he could have had so much more," Vezeau said in an interview Wednesday.

"We are disappointed that it came to this — we would have preferred that it be resolved on friendlier terms."

Vezeau expects Masse and his mother, Mary Elizabeth Wilczynski, to get little more than market value for the 70-year-old, two-floor house.

Masse was the lone holdout from a relocation project that saw Osisko buy out 204 of 205 homeowners in his neighbourhood, which literally sits on top of the deposit.

Many of the houses were moved to another part of town, while others were destroyed.

His ramshackle house sits alone in a grey landscape of rock and sand as the mining project closes around it.

Masse had been scheduled to appear in court next month to fight a government expropriation order, but the date was moved up after Osisko requested an emergency court decision.

Locals believe Masse's curious showdown with the mining company was due in large part to the influence of a fast-talking, self-proclaimed billionaire named Rejean Aucoin.

Aucoin, described by the family as an adviser, was at the centre of a bizarre courtroom incident Monday that was outlined in the judge's decision.

When proceedings began, Dufresne told Aucoin, who is not a lawyer, he had to sit in the courtroom area reserved for the public.

The judge wrote that Aucoin continuously interrupted the court, giving directives to Masse and Wilczynski.

Aucoin was eventually escorted out of the courtroom by security guards.

On his way out, he told Masse and Wilczynski to follow him without presenting their arguments — and they did.

"The Court deplores the departure of Ms. Wilczynski and Mr. Masse," Dufresne wrote in the 12-page decision.

"The Court will not be taken hostage by parties that refuse to submit their arguments."

Neither Aucoin nor Masse could be reached for comment Wednesday.

A spokeswoman for Osisko says the company had been trying to reach a deal with the Masse family for the last three years.

Now, Helene Thibault says they have to be out of the house before 8:45 a.m. on Monday.

"It's unfortunate for both sides to end up in court, in front of a judge, to solve the problem," she said from Malartic.

"But we are satisfied with the judgment."

Masse, who quit his council post last year in protest over the mine, has since isolated himself from most people in town.

Guy Morrissette, the only municipal councillor to oppose the mining project with Masse, wonders how the court decision will affect his former colleague's mental well-being.

"I don't know how he's going to react, that has always worried me — he's so wrapped up in this case," said Morrissette, who had concerns about how quickly the project was approved.

"I know I'm not the only one who's worried."

Still, Morrissette never doubted this day would come.

"It was a question of time," he said.

murd0c 08-04-2010 10:01 PM

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2...goldmember.jpg

vafanculo 08-04-2010 10:02 PM

Whatever. It's the guys own fault, and he was being a dick. It's not about principle, it was about the 1 million he seeked.
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silva95teg 08-04-2010 10:04 PM

Thats why you should buy the mineral rights to your property.

jackmeister 08-04-2010 10:23 PM

had the dude not ask for some 1 million and stayed because it was his childhood home, he would've gotten a much larger $$$ figure

JKam 08-04-2010 10:40 PM

the govt owns everything underneath your house, you own whats above the ground.

AccordCouped 08-04-2010 11:58 PM

what an idiot..

bladenemesis 08-05-2010 12:32 AM

The guy wasn't exactly a savior.

He was denying the community some much needed jobs, especially in the current financial situation.

Razor Ramon HG 08-05-2010 01:10 AM

Not enough minerals.

Vansterdam 08-05-2010 05:51 AM

14k house for 350k n he said no?

dam that house means alot to him

Supafly 08-05-2010 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vansterdam (Post 7056082)
14k house for 350k n he said no?

dam that house means alot to him

no....he's just being a cunt...trying to seek out 1 million dollars...

thank god, the gov't has done something right lately....

tofu1413 08-05-2010 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vansterdam (Post 7056082)
14k house for 350k n he said no?

dam that house means alot to him

http://www.moo2u.com/blog-images/up_house_sky_lg.jpg

Greenstoner 08-05-2010 07:33 AM

i hate these cockblocks

dimsum119 08-05-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 7055995)
Not enough minerals.

MY LIFE FOR AIUR!!

Gridlock 08-05-2010 09:27 PM

two thing...I hate the idea of eminent domain. It makes the gov't "of the people"too powerful, especially when they use it in the states to put up a strip mall.

Second...we'll open this hole up, to mine gold, so we can lock it back up in a bank vault.

Excellent.

LikeASir 08-05-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 7055995)
Not enough minerals.


we need to go deeper.

Shun Izaki 08-05-2010 09:40 PM

we require more vespene gas

MelonBoy 08-05-2010 11:33 PM

So the guy gets about 14k now right?.. talk about karma.. greedy greedy.

Psykopathik 08-06-2010 12:55 PM

i believe its called "exectutive order" or something similar, where the gov't can take your shit, pay you fair value and tell you to GTFO.

this happened to some co workers when they expanded HWY 1 in BBY. instant millionaires on houses they paid dick all for.

97ITR 08-06-2010 01:51 PM

You mean they didn't get to share in the gold wealth similar to when they struck oil under Bayside High? :P

yellowpower 08-06-2010 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo E (Post 7057878)
i believe its called "exectutive order" or something similar, where the gov't can take your shit, pay you fair value and tell you to GTFO.

this happened to some co workers when they expanded HWY 1 in BBY. instant millionaires on houses they paid dick all for.

Thats too sick and unfair
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no_clue 08-06-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo E (Post 7057878)
i believe its called "exectutive order" or something similar, where the gov't can take your shit, pay you fair value and tell you to GTFO.

this happened to some co workers when they expanded HWY 1 in BBY. instant millionaires on houses they paid dick all for.

Yup this isn't like the USA, If they find minerals or oil on your property, they have the right to take over your house. Also, for public development they can take over your property too. Example is if Translink decides that your property is in the way of their new skytrain, bye bye home!


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