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08-09-2010, 07:36 PM
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| Buying a CBR125
So near October-ish
i wanted to buy a new cbr125
if i buy a 2008
its
MSRP 3500 + 400 Freight/PDI
3900 - 1200(manufac DC) = 2700
or a 2009
MSRP 3600 + 400
4000 - 800 (manu DC) 3200
If i go for a the 2008,
will this work? walk in with 2200cash and basically say its 2.2k or i cant afford.
For the 2009, walk in with about 2.6k and say the same thing.
how are my numbers? am i expecting too much?
gotta consider that they are 2-3 year old models and summer is over and it will be 3-4 years next summer and such.
i dont know how much of a margin bikes have
also should i save up more and go for the 09?
any advice would be great as i am a newb to riding.
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08-09-2010, 08:14 PM
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I would think it highly unlikely the dealers would give any more off the bike with the manufacturer rebate already, especially an additional $500-600. Never hurts to try I suppose. Don't forget tax on your prices and miscellaneous add-ons (tire tax, etc.) '08/'09 are identical except for colour AFAIK
I would suggest maybe getting at least a Ninja 250. Never tried a 125, but the 250 is borderline anemic already. Great for learning on and around the city, but is barely adequate for the highway.
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08-09-2010, 09:57 PM
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Have you sat on the cbr125?
I was on the same boat as you, I wanted to start off with a CBR125, and in hindsight, I'm glad i didn't. I ended off getting a 2005 Suzuki GS500F, for my size (I'm about 6'1'') the cbr125 is a very small bike and the GS500F was a good size for me, it is also a good starting bike and ridable bike to learn on imo  .
I too would recommend at least a ninja 250, for you will outgrow the cbr125 VERY Fast. The CBR125 to me seems like a very good bike to just learn the basics of riding, once you have that, then you can upgrade.
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08-10-2010, 12:07 AM
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#4 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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you will outgrow the 125 VERY quickly
back to OP, i doubt they will give you such a discount. just my 0.02
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08-10-2010, 12:22 AM
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#5 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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is the mst and road test allowed on cbr 125?
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08-10-2010, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by alex.w *//  is the mst and road test allowed on cbr 125? | Why wouldn't it be?
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08-10-2010, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by alex.w *// is the mst and road test allowed on cbr 125? | Road bikes have to be 250cc or higher at minimum, otherwise you cannot get your full license.
things may have changed, it's been 3 years since ive got my license.
hope that helps.
I wouldnt advise getting a 125cc though. Rode one for fun and i honestly did not know that it was on while sitting on it with my helmet and gear. That thing is so quiet!
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08-10-2010, 08:09 AM
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i guess ill get 2gs more by next year and get a 250cc. thanks for the advice
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08-10-2010, 08:21 AM
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125cc sounds like a great idea... then you buy it, drive it home and have already realized it's way to small. I can't do more than 105km/hr on a honda 125cc. My friend could manage around 115... in a draft behind a semitruck but he's 80lbs less than me. It got to the point we were treating it like a Mountain Bike. Doing pop up wheelies and shit. If you actually want to ride don't go less than a 250cc. If ALL your getting it for is getting around downtown then its awesome but if you actually want to ride it distances... don't get a 125.
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08-10-2010, 09:14 AM
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that cbr125 is basically a scooter. Can't do much with it at all.
Get a ninja 250. Those bikes are awesome.
As for your pricing....good luck!
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08-10-2010, 10:35 AM
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It sounds like the OP is a new rider - why buy a new bike? Part of learning may include dropping the bike, and I'd hate to scratch a new bike. For the $$$ you're spending you could get a lightly used 250, 400, or 500.
I passed a CBR125 this morning and it looked like a toy. The tire is super thin, the bike so tiny, and on the 99 after the Oak St bridge when traffic hits ~100 kmph the bike just couldn't keep up.
Maybe if you're a 100 lb small chick the power/weight ratio makes more sense, yet otherwise any decent sized dude on these bikes is laughable. Hell even my SV650 looks tiny with my 6'2" 230lbs frame on it.
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08-10-2010, 07:41 PM
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the idea was to get a cbr125
because i kept hearing that it was the best/easy bike to learn and save money by not going to PRS.
but since everyone is recommending a bigger bike, plan might be go to PRS then get a bike next year.
i know people gonna say go to PRS, best option for my safety but 800$ is half of my budget for a bike atm and i know a few people who ride for a long time and they learned on their own.
i already went to bestway drving school so im good with road safety although its probably way different on a bike.
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08-10-2010, 07:47 PM
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Yes...riding is completely different than driving a car. In a car, you can get away with small mistakes. On a bike, a small mistake can cost you your life. You might be able to teach yourself to ride a motorcycle, but the course teaches you much more than just how to ride a motorcycle. Everyone advises you to take a course for a reason. But whatever your choice, good luck!
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08-10-2010, 08:06 PM
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Funny thing, today when I went to Surrey ICBC for my class 6, there were 3 guys there taking there MST exam.
Guy #1 had a Gixxer 08 I believe
Guy #2 had a R6
Guy #3 was taking his MST with a pimped out yellow Hayabusa...
I was shocked that he would take a Hayabusa for his MST exam, he ended up failing too
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08-10-2010, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Good_KarMa Road bikes have to be 250cc or higher at minimum, otherwise you cannot get your full license.
things may have changed, it's been 3 years since ive got my license.
hope that helps.
I wouldnt advise getting a 125cc though. Rode one for fun and i honestly did not know that it was on while sitting on it with my helmet and gear. That thing is so quiet! | Close, its 150 or 200 cc (not sure which), my 250 ninja is 249cc's and I got my full license on it. If you take the test on the itty bitty bike you can get a "full" license, except that you're limited to the itty bitty bikes (and no passenger)? It'll cover it in one of the ICBC books (roadsense or tuning up)
If you want to RIDE a 125 is an anemic glorified scooter, get a 250 (perfect started bike IMO)
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08-10-2010, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by simsimi1004 the idea was to get a cbr125
because i kept hearing that it was the best/easy bike to learn and save money by not going to PRS.
but since everyone is recommending a bigger bike, plan might be go to PRS then get a bike next year. | Dude, riding is NOT cheap.
In in for over $7000 this year for bike, gear and insurance. Bike was $4900, insurance $1200, and good gear is expensive. I'm 31yo with a perfect driving record, I wouldn't even want to know what 18-25yos pay for insurance. Quote:
Originally Posted by simsimi1004 i know people gonna say go to PRS, best option for my safety but 800$ is half of my budget for a bike atm and i know a few people who ride for a long time and they learned on their own.
i already went to bestway drving school so im good with road safety although its probably way different on a bike. | You cannot put a price on safety. I assume you're in your early 20s and care more about money than your health - you'll learn one day, hopefully not the hard way.
I rode dirt bikes for years as a teen and found riding a street bike a bit of a challenge even with previous riding experience. I would never recommend someone with no riding experience to teach themselves. I made tons of mistakes on my dirt bike learning on my own, luckily those mistakes were offroad with nothing to hit or hit me.
Please reconsider this hobby when you have more money to spend on it.
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08-10-2010, 09:19 PM
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I saw 3 CBR125s today driven by dudes. WTF! Get a vespa!  | |
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08-10-2010, 10:30 PM
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do yourself a favour and save up for a course (PRS)
probably best to buy a used bike so you save on unnecessary extra fees
go for 250-500cc, it's got enough power and its great to learn on.
GS500F here myself
have fun and be safe
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08-10-2010, 11:00 PM
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yes. fine fine i will take PRS first lol.... original plan was to pay for PRS and get bike next year. but having enough money for a bike got the better of me.. thanks for setting me straight lol
i will save up for a 250 cc
how much should i be saving up for safety gear
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08-10-2010, 11:35 PM
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There are good deals to be found online. I paid:
~$200 for helmet (HJC - no shoei/arai  )
~$200 for leather jacket (Yoshimura)
~$150 for textile pants (Joe Rocket atomic)
~$70 for gauntlet gloves (Alpinestars SP1)
~$150 for Sidi B2 boots
~$100 for Icon field armor chest/back protector
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08-11-2010, 09:47 AM
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My Vespa has more displacement than a CBR125!
All jokes aside, the CBR125 is a great bike. I wouldn't mind getting one. It's got enough power and gearing for the city (at least for me anyway.) Acuracura has one. Maybe he'll chime in.
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08-11-2010, 10:07 AM
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Yet if you just want a bike to put-put around the city, might as well get a cool looking scooter instead. I wish I had the space for one of these:  | |
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08-11-2010, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Dude, riding is NOT cheap.
In in for over $7000 this year for bike, gear and insurance. Bike was $4900, insurance $1200, and good gear is expensive. I'm 31yo with a perfect driving record, I wouldn't even want to know what 18-25yos pay for insurance. | Im 22 and I got 6 months insurance for 1K (full coverage), I too have a perfect record. Quote:
Originally Posted by truth do yourself a favour and save up for a course (PRS)
probably best to buy a used bike so you save on unnecessary extra fees
go for 250-500cc, it's got enough power and its great to learn on.
GS500F here myself
have fun and be safe | +1
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Yet if you just want a bike to put-put around the city, might as well get a cool looking scooter instead. I wish I had the space for one of these: | I saw two of these on lougheed and boundary, looked pretty dope!!
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08-11-2010, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Glaedr Im 22 and I got 6 months insurance for 1K (full coverage), I too have a perfect record. | That's $2K/yr just on the bike! Damn, I hope you don't have car insurance too. I remember being 22 and not being able to afford $1800/yr for my car, nevermind a bike too!
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