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quasi 08-19-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7073516)
My wife is an LFA graduate, so I have had this debate with her before whenever we bring up any future plans for kids.

Her LFA education did not give her anything the public system couldn't, other than mandatory religion classes, which I could give less than 2 shits about.

Ya, my wife went to private school as well. The only thing it offered besides the religion classes was less electives and choices during highschool. I wouldn't put my child in Private school even if it was free.

m4k4v4li 08-19-2010 07:20 PM

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TheNewGirl 08-19-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 7073580)
So true. But if the parents have the money there's a good chance they'll be going to a good school in the US as well.

I don't know, I look at my friends that did IB and they had half of first year completed before university started. I think IB/AP served as a good transition to university. As far as social skills in IB/AP..there's seems to be a mix. But personally i think coming from BC public high school the transition was quite difficult..They had their shit pat-down by the end of the first semester while most of us regular HS grads may take up to 2nd and 3rd year to get used to the 'flow'.

I did a mix of AP and regular courses and I thought that was a fantastic transition. AP taught me how to write uni level papers (which they don't do properly in standard classes) and how to take tests that were far harder then standard High School tests. These skills more than the knowledge I learned in the classed were probably the biggest benifit I took from them when I went to do my post secondary.

taylor192 08-19-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 7073580)
I don't know, I look at my friends that did IB and they had half of first year completed before university started. I think IB/AP served as a good transition to university. As far as social skills in IB/AP..there's seems to be a mix. But personally i think coming from BC public high school the transition was quite difficult..They had their shit pat-down by the end of the first semester while most of us regular HS grads may take up to 2nd and 3rd year to get used to the 'flow'.

What is IB and AP?

I went to HS in Ontario and we had advanced classes and grade 13. The extra year in HS was fantastic, yet almost a duplicate of 1st year university.

I did see kids from some of the eastern provinces struggle with the 1st year curriculum, yet it seemed they learned less in grade 12 than we did in Ontario.

Mizter 08-19-2010 09:32 PM

^AP = Advance Placement (not 100% but I think that's it is)
IB = International Baccalaureate

I took IB in HS(public) and thought it was quite worth my two years since I went straight into 2nd year university.

Vinny G 08-20-2010 09:11 AM

To be honest, private school kids at UBC/SFU are the biggest try-hards I've ever seen. I don't think a single one of them has touched alcohol until university. Also seems like smoking weed is equivalent to snorting cocaine (for them), lol.

I don't think private school makes a big difference. I know a lot of (Asian) students from LFA and Point Grey and I'm much further ahead of them in terms of career and networking. In fact, I've noticed that a lot of them try to turn into a "party everyday" person... I guess to compensate for their miserable high school lives.

Great points btw, taylor. Your posts are always very interesting and informative.

flagella 08-20-2010 09:39 AM

lol, if the parenting is shitty and kids are going to fail, it won't matter private or public.

Gumby 08-20-2010 09:44 AM

I've noticed that a lot of private school kids, once they go into university, go nuts. It's because they've been stuck within the rules for most of their high school lives. Once they're done high school, it's almost like they got out of jail.

(For the record, I went to private school from gr 6-12)

TheNewGirl 08-20-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizter (Post 7073892)
^AP = Advance Placement (not 100% but I think that's it is)
IB = International Baccalaureate

I took IB in HS(public) and thought it was quite worth my two years since I went straight into 2nd year university.

Only specific schools offer IB, for the most part you have to take the whole program which means they have to have teachers qualified to teach first year collage level courses in their entire spectrum of offerings (your average high school teacher does not fit the bill).

Some high schools that do not offer the IB program offer AP (advanced placement) in the range of classes they do have qualified teachers to teach also AP works very well for students who are excelling in some subjects but not in everything.

AP in some subjects are also additional electives to the regular (required) level in the course. So for example I took English 12, got an A+ and took AP Lit 12 the next term (which transfered as my first year college english cred when I went to post secondary later). I took Social Sciences 12 and then grabbed the AP courses for it, which at my school were Law & Sociology (again they carried over as first year credits).

Essentially I got my first year college breadth requirements done in my last semester of high school.

If you do IB you get almost your whole first year of uni done by the end of great 12.

Greenstoner 08-20-2010 09:47 AM

my buddie's youngest sister went to private high school, where my buddy and his brother are both in regular high school.

His sister graduated from Gr.12 about 2 years ago and is doing fuck all and not even attending school lol

where my buddy went to BCIT and got a CGA and his brother went to SFU and grad from commerce. lol

I found it funny, the sister got too spoiled and just ruin it

Not to mention the 2 bothers shared the same vehicle (self-bought) since high school and the sister recived her first vehicle from daddy after 17 and crashed it within a week.. what a joke

Great68 08-20-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 7073599)
its true what they say that your hs friends end up being the friends you keep when you're older.

Not really.

I have only kept in touch with one friend from highschool, but only because we were actually friends since grade 1. Other than that the people I hang out with nowadays were all people I met after high school.

Mizter 08-20-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl (Post 7074360)
Only specific schools offer IB, for the most part you have to take the whole program which means they have to have teachers qualified to teach first year collage level courses in their entire spectrum of offerings (your average high school teacher does not fit the bill).

Some high schools that do not offer the IB program offer AP (advanced placement) in the range of classes they do have qualified teachers to teach also AP works very well for students who are excelling in some subjects but not in everything.

AP in some subjects are also additional electives to the regular (required) level in the course. So for example I took English 12, got an A+ and took AP Lit 12 the next term (which transfered as my first year college english cred when I went to post secondary later). I took Social Sciences 12 and then grabbed the AP courses for it, which at my school were Law & Sociology (again they carried over as first year credits).

Essentially I got my first year college breadth requirements done in my last semester of high school.

If you do IB you get almost your whole first year of uni done by the end of great 12.

Yup that's correct. If I'm not mistaken there is 1-2 schools in each district that offers IB. Not sure about AP but either way both programs should give students a leg-up in university.

TheNewGirl 08-20-2010 10:26 AM

Yeah like in District 43 (the tri cities) you can only get IB at Port Moody Sr. But Terry Fox and Riverside both offer AP courses. To get the most out of the AP courses you need a school where there's a semester system. So you can take your regular credits in your first semester and your AP in second. Or you can do regular 11s first semester grade 11, grade 12 courses in second semester grade 11 and APs all the way through your 'grade 12' year.

Jermyzy 08-20-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7073510)
Did you end up with a 6 figure salary job? If not, the return on investment probably wasn't worth it.... although after being in St Georges, that school is pretty friggin nice.

Yes I did, but to be honest, I probably would have ended up in my current profession regardless of which high school I went to. The one thing I did like about St. George's was that they made after-school sports program mandatory. At the time I hated it, b/c I was a short scrawny Chinese kid, but once I got into university and bulked up a little I was able to play intramural sports which I really enjoyed!

insomniac 08-20-2010 01:54 PM

honestly, i think going to a private elementary school is next to useless. same with going to tutors at elementary age cause i think its just a waste of money unless your kid is under the average learning level. however, going to a private school during high school would be more beneficial. the environment is alot better cause there arnt that many fags, you wont catch bad habits (smoking, partying etc)

my mom has been forcing me to go to tutor for the past 5 years and i try alot of different tutors. it depends of what type of kid you have.. for me im a totally independent person and i think having a tutor is a waste of money and time.
i went to vcc and vancouver montessori and teaching styles were completely different from public schools. they used objects to teach with i thought was pretty creative and a but the downside was that there was no homework at all. so when i went to high school i got fucked over cause i didnt know how to study and didnt do my homework..

Great68 08-20-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Funktion (Post 7074588)
honestly, i think going to a private elementary school is next to useless. same with going to tutors at elementary age cause i think its just a waste of money unless your kid is under the average learning level. however, going to a private school during high school would be more beneficial. the environment is alot better cause there arnt that many fags, you wont catch bad habits (smoking, partying etc)

my mom has been forcing me to go to tutor for the past 5 years and i try alot of different tutors. it depends of what type of kid you have.. for me im a totally independent person and i think having a tutor is a waste of money and time.
i went to vcc and vancouver montessori and teaching styles were completely different from public schools. they used objects to teach with i thought was pretty creative and a but the downside was that there was no homework at all. so when i went to high school i got fucked over cause i didnt know how to study and didnt do my homework..

Nothing wrong with partying?
I partied in high school and still manage to pull off honour roll...

The best kids were the ones that could balance both a social life and get good grades. Most of the kids who would get 95%+ in every single subject (except for maybe P.E.) were introverted geeks with no friends.

insomniac 08-20-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7074681)
Nothing wrong with partying?
I partied in high school and still manage to pull off honour roll...

plenty of people party and can get honor roll/principles list.
but what party nowadays doesnt include weed?
unless youre a geek and start a LAN party LOL
even if you can turn people down still..
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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7074681)

The best kids were the ones that could balance both a social life and get good grades. Most of the kids who would get 95%+ in every single subject (except for maybe P.E.) were introverted geeks with no friends.

i agree.. the ones that get the highest grades are probably the gamers though..

Sid Vicious 08-20-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Funktion (Post 7074588)
you wont catch bad habits (smoking, partying etc)

sounds like you need to get a life

insomniac 08-20-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 7074864)
sounds like you need to get a life

so you're saying that i need to smoke weed to have a life? :rolleyes:

woob 08-20-2010 11:54 PM

No but I wouldn't say partying is a bad habit.


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