WTF Florida! What did the Koreans do to you!?

i agree ive got no problem with the act of him burning shit but what i do have a problem with is that its going to perpetuate the growing hatred inside the states (and likely abroad)
towards Muslims you can't say that it won't and you can't just deem it "free speech" as cases like these just lead to more acts of hatred and leads to great forms of violence/hate
(like the attempted murder and arsons and pipe bombing that has already arisen)

and on the flip side its going to cause extremists on the other end of the spectrum to do the same its just going to pile hate on top of hate and lead to something no sane person wants

however since we 'sane' people don't really care about the psychos going at it, we let it be, and as a result we won't be able to do anything when the shit hits the fan (and it will)
as it would be out of control by then (history has shown us countless times that this is exactly what happens)
that's why we see Obama, The Pope, etc coming out and chiming in because they can see that pile of shit heading close to the fan

that's why i love Canada so much with our anti-hate speech/crime laws

Well, you could also say that those Muslims should be smart enough to recognize a whack job like this florida fuck and realize that he and his other 50 inbred followers don't represent a nation of 300 million people.

You could say that if they CAN'T recognize that fact, they're no better than he is.

I pray that they dont do this.... Westboro Baptist Church has said if this guy doesnt do it they will! Hopefully if they do it the extremists will kill them :)

Book Burn was officially cancelled this afternoon. Now the wack job pastor says he's "rethinking" his decision to cancel.



http://www.nationalpost.com/Florida+...104/story.html

I doubt he ever planned on actually doing it... He just wanted his 15 minutes of fame.. I'll still laugh if a video of him getting beheaded ends up on some extremist website..

Hmm I guess i wasn't clear enough; i touched on the "flip side" in my op

but as per the message of mine you quoted (the attempted murder, pipe bombings, arson are not from Muslims but from people of the same anti-muslim mindset as this pastor who attacked Muslims in the USA)

I was talking about the building growing hatred against Muslims in America its not just 50 inbred followers i think that much is evident; in the case of this Pastor sure he has 50 followers at his church but across the country there are thousands of like minded people who will be bolstered by the medias attention of this nut job.


and as i've said

It's going to antagonize many however slightly, that's not the concern the concern is its going to give an equal bolstering to the same "inbred" extremists but on the Muslim side as well.


a piling of shit on top of one another until it hits the fan and at that point "sane" people will be dragged into it and won't be able to stop it. (germany, bosnia, rawanda, usa?)

canada's "anti hate speech" is just lightly disguised censorship; google Mark Steyn and you'll know what i mean

canada is on average one of the most educated and intelligent countries in the world, we shouldn't' restrict or filter content simply because we view it as undesirable; let our citizens make that decision.

They are PLENTY of rational, intelligent, Americans which resent people like the Florida fag and his followers.

They are the ones who realize that it wasn't ISLAM which flew planes into the world trade center.

Those same intelligent, rational Americans are actually protesting against the Florida Fag. I don't know if there's any real proof that the anti-islamic sentiment is actually growing, maybe it's just that those islamophobes are better at vocalizing themselves *cough fox news cough*

What we need are the rational, intelligent Muslims who realize it isn't all americans who want to burn the Qu'ran, and protest hard against those extremist Muslim fucks who think otherwise.

Hmm... sounds like your saying the anti-muslim extremists aren't a problem the problem is the extremist muslims...???

and that there are plenty of rationale people protesting the anti-muslims but there are no rational muslims protesting extremist muslims???

its a question not a statement; but if that's the sentiment you hold i find it to be a rather ignorant one tbh

what im saying, is that extremists on both sides are a problem and unless there's a voice or a hand to stifle both sides there's going to be major problems for us rational sane people.

it would be ridiculous to say "you first" or accuse "you're not doing anything why us?" that would be the p.o.v of a "rational" islamaphobe

Burn a Koran, burn a phone book, same thing

Heres what happened at last year's Korean On Fire celebration:

http://www.poltz.com/blognews/23fire.jpg

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or should i say "Korean Barbecue" :troll:

You can only say that if they get the same info as ppl here do. Most likely, they'll be in a developing country and get a news snippet from tv, the paper, or from word of mouth that's been distorted, skewed, or propagandized in some way about someone in the West burning their bible. That sounds a lot like the news here, actually.

burning the koran will be like sticking a stick in a killer bee's nest

Uhh, you are misinterpreting me or you like argument for the sake of argument because for the most part I have agreed with you.

- I have AGREED that extremists on both sides are the problem.

- I have NOT said that there are NO rational muslims protesting the extremists, I have suggested that they need to do a better Job of doing so.
The rationals in America could probably do a better job themselves by not giving guys like the florida fuck the time of day, or so much as a second of TV time.

But I would consider the extremist muslims far more irrational than the extremist Christians in the U.S. I haven't heard any extremist U.S. Christians flying planes into buildings or burning embassies lately...

Agreed, up until the last part.

Look at Iraq, shits blowing up all over.

I don't know if you could consider the american military and extremist christians one and the same... I dunno, I guess some could construe it that way, I don't.

no i just wanted to be clear cuz that the vibe i was gettin but i think we all know i get touchy in these kinds of convos ;)

No not at all, there are muslims in the US military too.
It's just that there are some IN the military that are pretty nuts and shit and going all Holy on any turbans they see.
But you're right, my argument did fail.

cant remember what documentary it was.... religulous?? or some other that showed how powerful the church is within the us army and how it influences the structures design and yadda yada

but it certainly painted the picture that christian extremists with their lobbying and entrenchment in the military have been pushing through, successfully, a dangerous ideology that's more advanced than some farmers in caves


oh i remember... it wasnt religiulous but another documentary about the church and america rented it from blockbuster but cant recall the name :/ the guy who made it is a bishop in the vatican