DriveSmartBC - Driving With a BAC Between 50 & 80 In 1977 BC established the limit of 50 mg% as the provincial limit on Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) for drivers. When tested with an approved screening device drivers with a BAC over this limit received a 24 hour roadside prohibition. Relatively recently, this prohibition also included a 24 hour vehicle impoundment to go along with the prohibition. Effective on September 20, 2010 the prohibition dealt to drivers with a BAC between 50 and 80 mg% (known as a warn) will change significantly. When tested with an approved screening device at roadside a driver who provides a breath sample that is analyzed as a warn will face a minimum 3 day driving prohibition, an administrative penalty of $200, a driver's license reinstatement fee of $250, a 3 day vehicle impound and the associated towing and storage fees. In the case of a driver whose driving record already contains a single prohibition within the past 5 years, the prohibition and impoundment periods rise to 7 days. The administrative penalty will increase to $300 and the driver will be required to participate in the ignition interlock program for one year at a cost of $1,730. Should the driver have 2 or more previous prohibitions within the previous 5 year period, prohibition and impoundment rise to 30 days. The administrative penalty will increase to $400 and the driver will be required to participate in the Responsible Driver Program at a cost of $880. In both of the latter cases the $250 driver's license reinstatement fee and the towing and storage charges will apply as well. Reference Links |
Do some drunk drivers demand blood tests in lieu of breathalyzer? When that happens, do you the police take them to a hospital emergency ward for blood alcohol test? |
Drivers can not request a blood test in lieu of a breath sample. |
Is a breath sample always done at the roadside or are other tests like balance tests also performed? I'm just curious how the police seperate the drunks from people with inner-ear/vestibular disorders that affect balance coordination if they don't have an RSD available. |
A roadside screening device isused to get an approximate BAC level. The SFST involve balancebut they also involve looking for indicators like...slurred speech, slow deliberate actions, confusion, smell of booze, difficulty walking and standing. The absence of HGN ( horizontal gaze nystagmus) would also rule out inner-ear disorders. The absence of alcohol symptoms would lead a terained SFST investigator to very quickly conlcude that it was a medical balance problem and not booze that was causing the problems. |
In the case of a driver whose driving record already contains a single prohibition within the past 5 years, the prohibition and impoundment periods rise to 7 days... What if my last prohibition was not anything alcoholic-wised..... Is it still raised to 7days? Posted via RS Mobile |
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One can have an inner ear disorder but be able to track objects smoothly without showing signs of HGN. |
Alcohol results in the onset of HGN in an "impaired" person. If the onset is before a 45 degree angle, the impairment will be over 100mg%. Someone with an inner ear problem will not exhibit HGN...they will possibly exhibit some symptoms of balance problems and they won't smell like Lucky beer or slurr their words etc. I agree with your last statement and we are both saying the same thing in the end. |
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Quote.. (3) A peace officer may, at any time or place on a highway or industrial road if the peace officer has reasonable and probable grounds to believe that a driver's ability to drive a motor vehicle is affected by a drug, other than alcohol, (a) request the driver to drive the motor vehicle, under the direction of the peace officer, to the nearest place off the travelled portion of the highway or industrial road, (b) serve the driver with a notice of driving prohibition, and(c) if the driver is in possession of a driver's licence, request the driver to surrender that licence. |
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If I am not mistaken, the police are now able to run these tests on any driver even without suspecting alcohol has been consumed. Is it at all possible that someone with an inner ear problem (which can affect balance and eye movements) could be arrested on suspicion of being drunk and transported to the police station to give a breath sample? A quick google search reveals quite a bit of controversy on the use of HGN tests. |
If all you had was a balance problem and no other symptoms of impairment, then there would be no symptoms of impairment by alcohol. A simple ASD test would show if there was alcohol in your system. The SFST uses a large number of indicators to show impairment and it is the totality of their presence...not just 1 or 2 symptoms, that leads to a Datamaster test back at the Cop shop. |
so monetary consequences only apply if you are between .05 and .08? As long as the driver is under .05 it is good? what is considered under .05? 1 glass of wine, 1 beer, 1 jager bomb, 1 rum and coke - where is the line. |
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^ How about a very rough estimate? Like average male, 20 years old, average build and weight etc, eats while drinking. I'm just looking for a very rough guide, not to live by, but to atleast have some indication. |
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Have a glass of wine with dinner, no more. Does ICBC collect stats on BAC involvement in collisions? ie, BAC of xx% was responsible for xx% of alcohol related collisions. |
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Do you want to go through all this trouble, just to be able to have a few drinks? Let us spell it out for you: "DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE".. :thumbsup: save yourself the headache. Although I'll admit.. I can't wait til someone like you comes on here and asks how to fight their conviction.. I will laugh so hard... |
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EDIT: I enjoy a beer as much as the next guy.. maybe even more.. but I leave them for when I'm not driving so I don't need to worry about the law, ever. Like when I get home, and I'm not going anywhere. My job hinges on my being able to operate a vehicle... so if I don't want to ruin the life I've made for myself, I just avoid the issue altogether. Better safe than sorry!! But that appears to be too complex a subject for you young'uns.. Oh, and refer to my sig ;) |
different people process alcohol differently as well. I'm 140lb, 5'4". But after half a pint of beer, I've been told I get more alcohol breath than someone who's just a bit bigger, but has had a full drink or two. but that has nothing to do with being drunk as well. It'll take me quite a few more drinks before I start feeling the effects. That said, I also know people who start feeling woozy after half a drink, yet you might not be able to detect any alcohol on their breath. so like jlenko says, if you drink, just don't drive... |
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