^ check the op's opening thread.... no 4 banger slow ass crap apparently. And that's what 20g gets you brand new.

I don't know what you guys are saying, but my uncle says the 745 drives like shit and the i-drive sucks balls since it is hard to navigate. Hence why he got rid of it after 1 year. But it's a good car if you want to be a 20g baller. Here is one with fairly low miles, loaded and a good price. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nv...942231029.html

^ either your uncle is on crack or hes prolly use to driving quattroportes and flying spurs....and i doubt the second statement is true.

^it's true... being the 1st generation i-drive created in 2001 for the 7 series the functions are aging, distracting and retardedly confusing.. heard many complaints and a pointless dictionary thick owners manual just explaining the function of the i-drive system.. theres a reason why there were too many complaints about the system and how bmw decided to freshly update the i-drive in 2008 to solve all the complaints

Get your shit right nigga, like what jpark said, and my second statement is the realist ever.
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I don't know which first post you read, but his original post clearly asks for repair info regarding both cars since he had questions about the benz, and couldn't dig up much on the bmw.

Having owned both a newer economy car (01 civic in 2002), and an old luxury car (02 M5 in 2010), I can tell you, without a doubt that the M5 costs way, way more to upkeep. Not only are parts more expensive, but since it's 8 years old, more of those more expensive parts need replacing.

OP, I hope you have a few bucks saved for the increase maintenance costs and insurance. The worst is when you have a 'baller' roll up in his 745, but refuses to go to White Spot without a coupon.

i just find it hilarious this poor fck only has $20g to drop while saying no pussy ass honda civic rides. You must be one of those "car poor" people.

^ I bet he doesn't have 20gs, I bet that's his parents budget... I have had a few "ballers" come in with their parents... Checking out g37's, bimmers etc... They're dressed all nice acting all gangsta with rich mommy and daddy... then I sit them down to talk about financing and they have garbage credit, zero money to put down and need a co-signer themselves.....

Just out of curiosity, how much would the yearly maintenance one of these be? For reference, maintenance of a Quattroporte (sorry, only luxury car I'd even consider) are on average about $1.5k per year if done at a dealership, or so I've found out by calling up the dealership here/research. For normal, non-track driving. Safe to assume that a BMW/Merc would be lower? Just curious, really.

And, if you want to listen to a noob, I would likely buy none of those. Neither the BMW because of the shitty iDrive, nor the Mercedes because it was DaimlerChrysler back then, and we all know what that meant for reliability of Mercedes.

Nevertheless, if I'd have to pick, I'd pick the BMW, because the styling is better and I'd rather deal with a complicated system that I can read a manual to figure it out than spending more time driving loaner cars instead of my car.

My 2 cents.

People always think of the 7 and S, not often will someone suggest the A8 and nobody has suggested the Phaeton... which is what I would get because nobody knows wtf it is. Or maybe something from Jaguar

Funny, I was going to mention for him to get a Phaeton, but the OP doesn't seem to fit the type of Phaeton drivers, i.e., low profile.

Or, if a Jag like you said, one of these:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...921522812.html

Thing with the Phaeton is that it's SUPER rare. You rarely see them for sale. The owners I've spoken to love it, though.

maybe OP has 30k saved up where 10k is for repairs?

As a reference:

Had a 7 before; the sun roof wouldn't close due to electronic circuitry problems.
Total repair bill at an independent garage came to $2,000 -- all to replace a module and some chip.

I also love the Phaeton -- it's essentially a re-badged Bentley Continental.
It DOES have loads of maintenance problems too though. I joined a Phaeton owner's forum and their only complaints were of the maintenance costs. Motors and electronics problems galore! And a new tranny? $8,000 USD!

That low cost is when the car is new/in warranty period. Things wear out though -- BMW and Benz electronics seem to fall apart around the time the warranty kicks out, leaving you with the repair bill!

no that is NOT the case

This guy is probably going to throw some d's on it as well and apply da thug life 'who run it' banner decal on his back window of his baller 20k 7 series
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Cost of ownership for an S class goes like this
1st year A service 350
2nd year B service 600, Brake Flush 200
3rd year A serivice 350
4th year B service 600, Brake flush 200, Air filters 200,Fuel filter 150
5th year A service 350, Spark plugs 500

Brakes last 40000km depending on driving F+R 1500
Tires last about 40000km dpending on driving bout 1000

Common problems
Lower balljoints 500 per side
MAF sensor 600
PSE pump for central locking and closing assist 3000
Airmatic struts 1500 each+ install
Airmatic compressor 2500
Crank sensor 250
Fuel pump's 1500+ install
Valvecover Gasket leaks 500

usually anything that breaks will cost at least 1000 to fix usually but several thousand dollar bills are not uncommon.

^

definitely not something an average joe can afford


$20-40g car? easily affordable, maintaining it? not so much

Call me ignorant, but wouldn't the above be doable for anyone who can turn a wrench? Even on a new car with complicated electrical systems and the need for special tools?

A set of 8 spark plugs costs 500 bucks? That's ridiculous.

on a $200g car? nothing is ridiculous



this aint no motherfucking honda

actually, some of them run on the twin spark design.. so not 8. 16 plugs.


i know for one my dads E320 has 12 spark plugs.

actually, ours has been treating us quite well. a 99' 4matic.

192k kms and still going strong. only thing it need so far was a window regulator ($300ish bucks) and a new cat converter ($1500). it'll need new pads soon.


should think about the E class. they aint bad.

You can't, really..., well, some anyways... for things like the suspension, you need STAR diagnostic to flush it.

better than my parents.... 24 plugs.....:(

I am very happy with my 7 series. Haven't had any problems with it.

I'm looking to change cars (something sportier) and am selling mine...
If you are worried about parts breaking on it...i have 2 more years of warranty left on mine.

Here is my craigslist post if you are interested.

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...893328942.html

op, if you want a 7, I would recommend a 01 e38 740i sport. those are sitting at 10k now and is much more diy'er friendly. Parts are a lot cheaper too. IMO, E38 looks and feels much better than the E65. Pre-bangle era goodness. That being said, the newest one is still 10 years old so they all will have some issues.