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Tapioca 09-17-2010 02:14 PM

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immigration isn't really a problem, it's just the immigrants tendency to form ethnic enclaves
People of all stripes tend to go where they are surrounded people that are like themselves. What do you have to say about Kits or Point Grey?

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Yes Australia is a pro-immigration country but they don't just let anyone in. They have a points system and are very selective. Don't speak English? Don't have a degree or sponsoring employer? Don't pass the national knowledge test after having permanent residency for a minimum of 2 years? You're probably going to be denied. One things for damn sure, the Navy turns away ALL the boats full of freeloaders that Canada so generously let in to suck away money and resources from Canadians themselves. Pathetic.
We have a point system too for skilled immigrants. Guess what? These engineers, doctors, etc. are underemployed and driving cabs, working as janitors, etc. We get them here, but they're doing the jobs that Canadians don't want to do because no one will hire them.

Australia's case is different and is somewhat dubious. They have an off-shore possession (Christmas Island) that allows them to process refugees. We don't have that luxury here in Canada and we are obligated under international law to give due process to each refugee claimant. You might not like it, but that's the legal advice that the government is operating under.

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Also yes, we in Canada DESPERATELY need immigration other wise those of us under 50 will be crushed under the weight of paying for our baby boomer parents retirement.
There is one segment of the population that is experiencing a high birth rate and that is Canada's Aboriginal population.

taylor192 09-17-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7109146)
There is one segment of the population that is experiencing a high birth rate and that is Canada's Aboriginal population.

Plus new immigrants have a 50% higher birth rate than established Canadians.

johny 09-17-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 7107881)
immigration isn't really a problem, it's just the immigrants tendency to form ethnic enclaves

last month an illegal boat full of terrorists was allowed to enter Canadian waters, dock, and claim refugee status. I'll call that an immigration problem.

johny 09-17-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rslater (Post 7107858)
This is how the liberals are going to win next election. Prior to elections they are going to say that the success of the HST on BC's economy has allowed the government to raise the minimum wage to $10 an hour.

people making min wage are too young to vote.... and if you're still making min wage by 18, you're too dumb to vote anyways.

Lomac 09-17-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by johny (Post 7109249)
last month an illegal boat full of terrorists was allowed to enter Canadian waters, dock, and claim refugee status. I'll call that an immigration problem.

Do you know how many boats, vans, home-made rafts, etc. come into Canada every month with people claiming refugee status? The only reason why this one made such big news was because there was an allegation of a possibility that there may be Tamil Tigers onboard. I haven't heard any proof that this was indeed the case.

We're obligated by International Law to accept refugees once they're on either our soil or Canadian seas. How each country processes those refugees is up to them, however. As was mentioned earlier, Australia has Christmas Island. We don't have anything similar, though I'm sure we can take one of the Queen Charlotte Islands and turn it into our own version.

But like it or not, Canada desperately needs immigrants. Whether they arrived through all the legal channels or by claiming refugee status after
floating in a hot air balloon across the Atlantic is a moot point to this fact.

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Originally Posted by johny (Post 7109251)
people making min wage are too young to vote.... and if you're still making min wage by 18, you're too dumb to vote anyways.

I put myself through University while making nearly minimum wage at a part time job. Guess I shouldn't have voted then.

carisear 09-17-2010 05:37 PM

JOHNY IS BACK! YAY!

m!chael 09-18-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7109317)
I put myself through University while making nearly minimum wage at a part time job. Guess I shouldn't have voted then.

You definitely shouldn't have. It takes little effort to find a job paying at least 5 dollars more than minimum wage. Either you weren't very bright, which is a possibility because it's not that hard to get into university, or you didn't put any effort into finding an adequate job. The latter would reflect very poorly on you since all university students know that any extra dollar matters when it comes to tuition, books, and beer. I really hope you put more effort into researching political parties than you did into finding a job.

m!chael 09-18-2010 10:55 PM

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darkfroggy 09-19-2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by m!chael (Post 7110516)
You definitely shouldn't have. It takes little effort to find a job paying at least 5 dollars more than minimum wage. Either you weren't very bright, which is a possibility because it's not that hard to get into university, or you didn't put any effort into finding an adequate job. The latter would reflect very poorly on you since all university students know that any extra dollar matters when it comes to tuition, books, and beer. I really hope you put more effort into researching political parties than you did into finding a job.

It would help if you would tell us where these plentiful jobs exist.

Sid Vicious 09-19-2010 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by goo3 (Post 7108200)
You might as well not have immigration in a free country. Or only allow Canadians to immigrate to Canada, LOL.

What does this have to do with anything? that makes absolutely no sense and is completely irrelevant to what i said.

goo3 09-19-2010 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 7107881)
immigration isn't really a problem, it's just the immigrants tendency to form ethnic enclaves

What are you gonna do? Round them up like dogs and keep them in a cage? This ain't China.

It's like forbidding them to speak their native language or "only if immigrants weren't so [fill in the blank]." They're people from a different culture, not inferior monkeys from the jungle. They're not here to kiss your feet, at least not the ones you want to let into the country.

If you can't take enclaves or whatever else that bothers ppl about immigration, then you might as well not have it. That's part of the deal. You take the good and the bad.

carisear 09-23-2010 09:45 PM

so i see there's a new VLS+ ... perfect time to put in a new board for politics. even though it'll only get used for 1 month every 4 years or something :)

taylor192 09-23-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by carisear (Post 7117778)
so i see there's a new VLS+ ... perfect time to put in a new board for politics. even though it'll only get used for 1 month every 4 years or something :)

With the HST vote looming and the census, gun registry battle ongoing, I think it would get used a bit


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