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skidmark 10-12-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7141728)
You perform the test in the back of the cruiser, not on the side of the road.

I used to do it with the driver seated in the driver's seat of their vehicle. Can't recall having any problems because of this...

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Plus you'd have to show some signs of impairment for the officer to proceed with the test.
Not so. All you need is the belief that the driver has alcohol in their body. There are ways of forming that opinion without seeing obvious signs of impairment.

Soundy 10-13-2010 09:39 AM

Personally, I don't get the fuss EITHER way over the "random testing" law. Police already have the power to pull over any car on the road for a number of different reasons, right down to a simple check for valid license and insurance. If the officer detects something that tweaks his suspicion that the driver is impaired, he can then administer his various sobriety tests/breath tests. I don't get the point of a new law to allow random pull-overs specifically for breath tests, and by the same token, I don't get why such a law is such a big issue either (although I'm sure sebberry will fill me in on it AGAIN, at great length).

hchang 10-13-2010 01:15 PM

Just out of curiousity....

I turned off the Bridgeport exit from Knight Street Bridge last Friday night at around 9:30 - 10:00 and saw a line of cop cars parked to the side, and a line of police officers standing on the left. So I thought it was a roadblock, I rolled down all of my windows (cause I have front tint) and got my license ready . But the line of cars just kept on moving and me and the cars in front of me just got waved through. As I looked in the rearview mirror I see the Honda Odessey van that was right behind me get stopped and talked to.

How are the police officers choosing the cars to talk to? Or were they maybe looking for somebody?

Great68 10-13-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 7143656)
How are the police officers choosing the cars to talk to? Or were they maybe looking for somebody?

I always wondered what criteria officers were looking for when they decide to stop someone vs wave them through.

Age?
Sex?
Race?
Appearance?
Type of car?

or is it just random, or a bit of all of the above?

zulutango 10-13-2010 07:48 PM

In your case it sounds like they stopped what they were looking for. In some cases you can pick a career drinker's vehicle...they tend to spend the money in the bar and not on the car....out east they call them "puffer cars"..."puffer...as in the breath sample in the ASD.

Ludepower 10-13-2010 10:10 PM

Enough with the bickering....the LAW is here for good.

is there any personal legitimate breathalyzers that are accurate? Please recommend me something that has been proven and reliable. Thanks

snowball 10-13-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ludepower (Post 7144543)
Enough with the bickering....the LAW is here for good.

is there any personal legitimate breathalyzers that are accurate? Please recommend me something that has been proven and reliable. Thanks

If you're willing to pay big bucks for it! Everything under 300 dollars get horrible reviews on amazon and Breathalyzer Canada

hchang 10-13-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 7144181)
In your case it sounds like they stopped what they were looking for. In some cases you can pick a career drinker's vehicle...they tend to spend the money in the bar and not on the car....out east they call them "puffer cars"..."puffer...as in the breath sample in the ASD.

It was kind of overkill how many cops were present though.

There were roughly 7 cops present.

zulutango 10-14-2010 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 7144612)
It was kind of overkill how many cops were present though.

There were roughly 7 cops present.


They may have been needed due to the risk level involved, they may have been looking for more than just 1 vehicle...all sorts of things. You can't say that it was overkill unless you are in posession of the facts, something you do not gain by a 10 second drive-by.

Soundy 10-14-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 7143656)
Just out of curiousity....

I turned off the Bridgeport exit from Knight Street Bridge last Friday night at around 9:30 - 10:00 and saw a line of cop cars parked to the side, and a line of police officers standing on the left. So I thought it was a roadblock, I rolled down all of my windows (cause I have front tint) and got my license ready . But the line of cars just kept on moving and me and the cars in front of me just got waved through. As I looked in the rearview mirror I see the Honda Odessey van that was right behind me get stopped and talked to.

How are the police officers choosing the cars to talk to? Or were they maybe looking for somebody?

I was stopped in a similar roadblock once, just taking the swing-bridge offramp from the Arthur Laing bridge. I was driving my dad's van, a beige Dodge van with some front end damage and a smashed-in side door from when he hit a deer a couple years before (deer jumped up out a ditch just outside Prince George - head caught the right-front signal lights, body swung around and impacted dead-center in the side door). The cop said they were looking for a "white or light-colored van with front-end damage, that had been involved in a hit and run". Naturally mine fit the description, with all its damage... until they actually stopped me and noticed the rust in the damaged areas, indicating the damage was fairly old.

As I recall, there were two or three cruisers among the roadblock... as zulu says, not necessarily overkill, depending what they're looking for. In this case, if you're after a van that's been involved in a hit-and-run, there's a chance they may bolt when they hit the roadblock, so you'd probably want a strong presence.

Bainne 10-14-2010 08:57 AM

Being resourceful in the allocation, deployment and planning of police resources is not a strong point of the RCMP :rolleyes:

Tying up 7 officers for a single task seems very likely.

I was thinking it sounds like a CVSE check, but never that late at night.

That said, I have been waved through a roadblock before when there was a large line, first guy shines the light in your car as you roll by and waves to you and then the next cop up the line.

hchang 10-14-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 7144920)
They may have been needed due to the risk level involved, they may have been looking for more than just 1 vehicle...all sorts of things. You can't say that it was overkill unless you are in posession of the facts, something you do not gain by a 10 second drive-by.

Fair enough.

zulutango 10-14-2010 11:41 AM

Another concern when stopping vans...guess what one of the most stolen vehicles in the LMD is....because they are useful for moving stolen property, lots of people can enter and exit them and they are easy to steal.

Soundy 10-14-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bainne (Post 7144976)
Being resourceful in the allocation, deployment and planning of police resources is not a strong point of the RCMP :rolleyes:

Tying up 7 officers for a single task seems very likely.

With no idea or understanding as to the SIZE of that task? :rolleyes:

Checking ricers for rubbing tires may only require one or two officers... a full-on CVSE check, DUI checks on a major route on a long weekend, all sorts of other "single tasks" that could take a lot more cops.

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I was thinking it sounds like a CVSE check, but never that late at night.
Plenty of commercial traffic moves at night. More efficient, as there's less other traffic on the road. It's also an old trucker trick specifically to try to avoid CVSE, weigh scales, etc... all the MORE reason to have a surprise CVSE checkstop in the wee hours.

skidmark 10-18-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bainne (Post 7144976)
Being resourceful in the allocation, deployment and planning of police resources is not a strong point of the RCMP

Time to back up your statement with some reason....

Soundy 10-18-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skidmark (Post 7150539)
Time to back up your statement with some reason....

Oh sure, might as well just ask for a date with Jessica Alba.


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