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jigga250 11-03-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodmack (Post 7171241)
He actually posted up a link that said Gordo managed the provinces public finances better then other premiers did theirs. It didn't say he was the best premier in the country. I think you need to re-read the article.
http://www.financialpost.com/news/be...523/story.html

Also, the liberals are STILL a better choice compared to NDP and others, unless RS party is made :D.

ummm.....the thread title was "Campbell > all other Canadian provincial premiers ":rolleyes:

raygunpk 11-03-2010 03:04 PM

I think it was in direct relation to the article.

taylor192 11-03-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vafanculo (Post 7171232)
I hope this wasn't a drunken decision and he takes it back when he sobers up in a few hours

His family was there... so he was probably drunk. :D

taylor192 11-03-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jigga250 (Post 7171296)
ummm.....the thread title was "Campbell > all other Canadian provincial premiers ":rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :facepalm:

Hondaracer 11-03-2010 03:59 PM

cant wait to vote to keep the HST!

SkinnyPupp 11-03-2010 04:02 PM

Good job BC, you chased away a brilliant business-minded leader.

Bouncing Bettys 11-03-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7171368)
Good job BC, you chased away a brilliant business-minded leader.

I always thought his brother would have made a great premier

optiblue 11-03-2010 04:57 PM

I'm thrilled that he resigned. Now maybe my union can finally get us a good contract! Totally getting underpaid compared to the rest of Canada.

SumAznGuy 11-03-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by optiblue (Post 7171436)
I'm thrilled that he resigned. Now maybe my union can finally get us a good contract! Totally getting underpaid compared to the rest of Canada.

Yeah, now my wife can finally get a raise and I can quit my job and leech off of her. :D

StylinRed 11-03-2010 05:44 PM

glad he didn't decide to bring down the ship along with him

carole james should take the hint



Dianne Watts? no thanks she's too weak (afraid to step on the toes of the sikh community even when they're acting crazy) and wants to be blonde

Mike De Jong? (sounds like that's where its headed) He's certainly smart enough but he looks like a big goofball, reminds me of Will Sasso

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/cast/will_sasso.gifhttp://www.leg.bc.ca/mla/39thParl/im...rg/dejongM.jpg


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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7171368)
Good job BC, you chased away a brilliant business-minded leader.

a lying and deceptive one

no_clue 11-03-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by optiblue (Post 7171436)
I'm thrilled that he resigned. Now maybe my union can finally get us a good contract! Totally getting underpaid compared to the rest of Canada.

No offense, but if the new government bends over frequently to union demands, BC is screwed. Raising minimum wage and wages of unions will reflect on the cost to the consumer.

Graeme S 11-03-2010 06:38 PM

And lowering taxes results in cuts to social programs; the benefit of social programs (LIKE SCHOOLS) is much higher than a small tax increase.
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!LittleDragon 11-03-2010 07:26 PM

Someone should start the "Let's be realistic" party...

quasi 11-03-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by optiblue (Post 7171436)
I'm thrilled that he resigned. Now maybe my union can finally get us a good contract! Totally getting underpaid compared to the rest of Canada.


How ya figure? If anything it hurt your cause. If he stayed the NDP probably gets in next election. Since he removed himself so early (depending on who the new leader is) the liberals will now have a much better shot at getting voted in again. Hopefully that happens because the NDP is the last thing this Province needs.

MG1 11-03-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme S (Post 7171590)
And lowering taxes results in cuts to social programs; the benefit of social programs (LIKE SCHOOLS) is much higher than a small tax increase.
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Not if governments become more efficient. Lots of waste in government. Half our tax dollars go to pay for stupidity (red tape, cock sucking, make work projects, surveys, consulting, etc.) You don't need to pay for a study to tell you what the problems are - just fucking fix it. Throwing money at programs that clearly don't work, for example. Cutting programs that work. Then finding out the cuts end up costing more in the long run. If I were the Premier, I'd go in and point at people and say, "You, you, and you, get the fuck out!" You there, you've got two months to fix the problem or we'll replace you with people who can!" I'll get support, all right, because people are sick of this shit! Once they see someone taking charge and making changes, they will support you. Even if you're brutal. Pull no punches and fuck everybody who sucks cock and fucks the dog.

Then again, I'd make a horrible Premier, 'cause I couldn't play the games they play. I wouldn't be able to lie through my teeth and sit with other dignitaries and bullshit with them. If I were sitting next to some VIP from another country, I'd probably tell them to fuck themselves for violating human rights, etc. I wouldn't be able to kiss ass. Plus, I'd probably punch out that obnoxious fuckhead of a reporter from Global TV.

Great68 11-03-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by no_clue (Post 7171534)
No offense, but if the new government bends over frequently to union demands, BC is screwed. Raising minimum wage and wages of unions will reflect on the cost to the consumer.

So those people aren't allowed to get raises or benefit increases over the course of their employment, just like you, I and anyone else in the private sector do?

It's not like the cost of living ever goes up over the years or anything. :rolleyes:

LiquidTurbo 11-03-2010 08:44 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rested_dui.jpg

Even now, everytime the name Gordon Campbell is mentioned, I automatically think of this picture. :rofl:

Tapioca 11-03-2010 09:17 PM

The Globe and Mail has published a rather positive editorial on Campbell's reign:

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The transformative leadership of Gordon Campbell
From Thursday's Globe and Mail
Published Wednesday, Nov. 03, 2010 7:50PM EDT
Last updated Wednesday, Nov. 03, 2010 10:58PM EDT

Gordon Campbell leaves with his popularity at its nadir, but he will be judged as one of the great premiers of British Columbia. Almost his entire professional life was spent as a political staffer or politician, but as a provincial leader, Mr. Campbell never settled for incremental transactionalism – he has consistently pushed the boundaries of the possible, in terms of both politics and policy.

Remember that the B.C. Liberal Party he took over in 1993 had not won an election in over 50 years. With the NDP and Social Credit imploding, he could have passively sat by. But he did more than this, taking the party on a sharp ideological turn in light of the province’s economic woes, and, in the process, realigning the whole party system in the province.

Mr. Campbell’s preference for the bold over the timid was evident throughout his mandate. He was a consistent advocate for the Vancouver/Whistler 2010 Winter Olympics bid. He tackled the question of how politicians are elected, with a citizen’s assembly and referendum on electoral reform, even though it was not necessarily in his own party’s interest. He brought in a carbon tax and was one of the first fiscal conservatives at the provincial level to champion the fight against climate change.

He also transformed the province’s finances and is beginning to change the way health care is delivered, although the price – fights with the public service – was sometimes great. By introducing the Harmonized Sales Tax, he set the stage for further economic growth, at a potentially lasting political cost.

Mr. Campbell also showed an admirable capacity to change his own beliefs. He took a predominantly antagonistic relationship between the province and aboriginal peoples, a sentiment he has shared and fuelled in his early years as party leader, and upended it as Premier. He didn’t just recognize the need to get aboriginals on board to develop the province’s resources; he showed them a respect that they had never seen, concluding new land deals, making aboriginal participation integral to the Olympics, and emerging as a key national spokesman for the Kelowna Accord.

His government was harmed by some of the legacies of B.C. political life, such as political corruption and personal difficulties experienced by its premiers. But Mr. Campbell’s record of public service and his transformation of public policy in British Columbia will benefit its residents for many years to come.
I will reiterate that the strides that Campbell has made on the aboriginal file are really quite remarkable considering BC's history vis-a-vis First Nations. Most people in the city are ignorant on First Nations issues, but I will say that the future prosperity of this province is tied to our ability to settle disputes and accommodate First Nations' interests.

carisear 11-03-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7171803)
So those people aren't allowed to get raises or benefit increases over the course of their employment, just like you, I and anyone else in the private sector do?

It's not like the cost of living ever goes up over the years or anything. :rolleyes:

why should workers get an increase just because it's at the bottom of the pay scale?

why should union workers get more money/benefits just because they've worked at the job for another year?

shouldn't pay increases be tied to PERFORMANCE?

and that, right there in a nutshell, is the difference in ideology between the right and the left when it comes to jobs.

goo3 11-03-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7171803)
So those people aren't allowed to get raises or benefit increases over the course of their employment, just like you, I and anyone else in the private sector do?

It's not like the cost of living ever goes up over the years or anything. :rolleyes:

Then they can bargain for it like everyone else. You want a raise during a recession? Good luck.

The gov't isn't there to hand out money every time a union tells a sad story to the newspaper.. It's there to represent the interests of the taxpayers.

Graeme S 11-03-2010 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by carisear (Post 7171978)
why should workers get an increase just because it's at the bottom of the pay scale?

why should union workers get more money/benefits just because they've worked at the job for another year?

shouldn't pay increases be tied to PERFORMANCE?

and that, right there in a nutshell, is the difference in ideology between the right and the left when it comes to jobs.

So why is it that business owners can increase prices without providing extra services or benefits to customers?

Shouldn't pay increases be tied to PERFORMANCE?

SkinnyPupp 11-04-2010 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Graeme S (Post 7172205)
So why is it that business owners can increase prices without providing extra services or benefits to customers?

Shouldn't pay increases be tied to PERFORMANCE?

People are free to stop going.
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Nightwalker 11-04-2010 02:20 AM

I think this is a brilliant political move that will help the Liberals in the next election.

Hakkaboy 11-04-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Graeme S (Post 7171590)
And lowering taxes results in cuts to social programs; the benefit of social programs (LIKE SCHOOLS) is much higher than a small tax increase.

you do realise that when they lower taxes, there are actually benefits, right? money doesn't just disappear. it's just a tax shift and collected from other areas of the economy.

when your take home pay increases, do you not spend more? that has direct relationships to businesses. plus the gov't also receive more in the form of sales tax.

when businesses get more consumer spending and *gasp* tax breaks, they might even do the inconceivable thing of investing to grow their business and/or employ more workers. guess what, now these new workers will contribute by paying income taxes instead of being bums and waiting for "social programs". and another bonus, they will contribute more in sales tax as well.

Tapioca 11-04-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hakkaboy (Post 7172496)
you do realise that when they lower taxes, there are actually benefits, right? money doesn't just disappear. it's just a tax shift and collected from other areas of the economy.

when your take home pay increases, do you not spend more? that has direct relationships to businesses. plus the gov't also receive more in the form of sales tax.

when businesses get more consumer spending and *gasp* tax breaks, they might even do the inconceivable thing of investing to grow their business and/or employ more workers. guess what, now these new workers will contribute by paying income taxes instead of being bums and waiting for "social programs". and another bonus, they will contribute more in sales tax as well.

As sound as your logic is, this thinking is lost on half of the voters in the province. Or, someone will say that once a business becomes profitable (which happens a lot in Canada), it gets taken over by a foreign one and then is broken up, sold, downsized, etc.


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