Back when I was in university, some of my friends wouldn't take the more difficult classes in the summer because they thought the curve would be higher. Their thinking was that the keeners were only going to be enrolled.

Fuck there were SO many fobs at SFU when I went there. How the hell do all these people get in? I'm just glad I never had a group full of them or else I'd basically be doing a paper by myself.

Too many god damn fatties with copper-coloured hair speaking mandarin and dudes that look like long-haired freaks *shudder*

They should make people who fail the LPI twice do English courses and a university transfer program at a college.

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i agree with the report.

and let me guess for some reason this post is not racist??

pics or it never happened :p

Also how do you explain what was said about the 90% demographic turn around?
And if you are smart and successful, what are you doing in this loser forum?


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*looks forward to many fails :)

Maybe I will get failed maybe I won’t, but here we go. I went to university for my undergraduate (big difference in this opinion if this was a Masters or PHD program) for the whole experience. I did not go to university to achieve exceptionally good grades, nor did I go with the expectation that my degree was going to land me a good job. I chose to go to the University of Victoria for the quintessential university experience of growing up. I think the article is pointing out that many students want the whole experience of university, while it may seem that some Asians are simply going there for only educational purposes. Thus, there are some people who feel that some Asians will not be enhancing their university experience.

Do I relate with the article because I’m white? Partially. I chose Uvic, over UBC because my peers were going to broaden my university experience. I had 18,000 students who were more like minded than me, in comparison to 20,000 Asians who want nothing to do with me at UBC. I'm not racist, nor am I prejudice, but I do believe that those that surround me are important in shaping my experience. I believe that the completely integrated Chinese on this board, those who have lived here their whole lives or for that matter “white washed”, would agree that having a classroom full of newly immigrated, non speaking Chinese do not make the environment as wholesome as you’d wish.

I did happen to graduate with distinctions from Uvic, while the whole time I was having sex, doing drugs, partying. and playing sports, and in hindsite not really caring much about school. All these activities were heightened because of my peers who were on the same mind set as me. I just think the article does not appropriate the real essence of what the study showed.

You're an idiot because he never called anyone on this forum a loser.

Re-read my post again, you are mistaken.

To rslater
I believe what the article is saying is that classes with lots of Asians will have a higher standard thus harder tests and none Asian students to get lower marks.

Where in less Asian populated classes, you'd have a better chance to be in the higher end of your class in marks

edit - oh I never read the original article... fail on my part, anyone find it cached?

McLeans took down the article haha

........is essentially the cultural difference. For me, I'm one of those caught in the middle type of dudes, I'm raised by not quintessentially traditional Chinese parents, my mom made SURE I went to uni. Personally I'm quite white washed and although I respected good grades, I never studied to a degree that would ensure good grades. After I graduated, I began to see that what you take for the most part in Uni is relatively irrelevant to your future job.

I had a chat with our Financial D (he's English, I work in HK). The difference is clear, Asians just don't have the concept of "enjoying the experience". I have a "theory" on this. I think its partly due to the fact that, Asians in general never had it that good. The modern world is shaped by Western culture and its history, and if you take HK/Chinese as an example, it's only very recently where we've experienced any sort of peace and financial/political stability. What you find in Chinese parents usually is that we in a way live by fear of loss, you go to school to make sure you don't starve, not to "experience". It will take some time before Asians have the privilege and concept to tell their kids to be truly open minded and to "see the world"

yeah. there are definitely arent any poor/homeless people in asia

/sarcasm

I'll have a double latte soy to go please.

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I think I found the article on another site
http://www.parentcentral.ca/parent/e...ng-for-success

edit; nope not it, I did anyone save it?

If this is how you interpreted the article, then you seriously need to work on your reading comprehension.

The article specifically refers to students being concerned with not receiving the experience they expect from university, not their concern about about the grading curve being driven up. Classes that Asians supposedly excel have a minimal, if any, grade curve. Succeeding in Math, Physics, Chemistry and Computer Science courses is strictly a matter of how well one understands the material, only in writing courses can the quality of other students work affect the marking of a paper. So, this has nothing to do with them making it more difficult to succeed in courses.
The article is referring to the different experience students receive at universities with a high percentage of Asian students, and yes, the environment is very different. Does that matter though?
The university experience is what an individual makes of it. Its every students choice whether they want to be a bookworm, with a 4.2 gpa, or a party animal whose shared a drink with everyone in their res building, and only has a 2.0 gpa.

:blush: I never read the original article and now its nowhere to be found :(

If didn't read the article, could you please explain why you felt the need to explain to rslater, who interpreted the article correctly, what it said?

The problem with top universities in Canada is the admissions requirements. The strongest factor in the admission decision for Canadian universities is your grades. This leads to a complete lack of diversity in the class except for FOBs and shitheads that spend all their waking hours at the library. It also leads to "grade inflation" at the high school level where dumbasses who can't compete in life start getting >3.8 GPAs. Canadian universities are putting out far too many university "graduates" (highest number of graduates in the world) which leads to lowest average income among developed countries for university graduates. We need to redirect these university "graduates" ho can only get jobs at Starbucks making minimum wage to start contributing to the economy by going into vocational training such as carpentry, plumbing, electricians, construction. There is such a high demand for vocational professions that many of these people make ridiculous hourly wages unheard of in the rest of the world. Work at Starbucks with an Arts degree, and get 8/hr. Work as an electrician with fewer years of training and less tuition and make $50/hr. Gee whiz!

I went to an Ivy League university in the East Coast and the admission requirement is far, far stricter. They look at your total achievement in life and ensure that the class is diverse from a racial and social demographic perspective. Ivy leaguers are generally much higher regarded in the work force then graduates of Canadian schools because of this.

Arash,

Please go suffocate and die. You are breathing precious air, unworthy of your stupidity and existance.

Right back at you prick

@Marco911
I hear today's degree is worthless too and stricter admission only makes sense only by putting the best forward... which would be FOBs and shitheads that spend all their waking hours at the library.

I didnt read the McLean article, just the one that OP posted. But why do you think not so many none Asians are not stepping it up to take university courses?

Those caucasians got beat at their own game. Now they hating.

Last I saw, lots of asians study/work harder, party harder, and more ambitious.

White people are complaining Asian Fobs have no personality.

White people needs to stop whining .. having more asians in university actually makes you white people look better

if you go for an interview at a big corporate company ... and if it was between you and a chinese guy with the exact same credentials i bet 8/10 times they would hire the white guy over him

and imagine this .. you getting in a school filled with asians who are known to be study freaks and u coming out on top .. that actually boosts ur credentials no ?

its not the hardcore studying high GPA kids that are working minimum wage.

its those party kids that coast though high school with barely a B and pick poli sci or history that end up at starbucks. these people are the ones that cheapen university degrees.

and you know what? they're mostly non-asians.

You didn't read the Macleans article, and you commented on what you thought it was about.

Most young Asian people choose to go to university, but very few enter technical school. Do Asians not apply to vocational schools, because they're afraid of the competition? Of course not. The majority of Asians aspire to careers that require a university education, hence the high number of Asian university students. Many Caucasians prefer vocational careers, and as a result there are more of them pursuing technical certificates.

I'm in university, and I've never had the slightest concern that the scholastic success of other students would result in my courses becoming more difficult. Also, I work, I have a social life and I maintain a 4.1 gpa, its not just shit-heads who spend all there time in the library who succeed.

Yeah you hardly see any asians working at Starbucks