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mikemhg 12-03-2010 09:28 PM

I work for the largest Pension and Benefits company in the country, and we administer benefits for a number of very large charities in Canada.

Needless to say having access to each employees wages, and seeing how much Management and Executives get paid in these so-called "charities" would make me think twice to donate.

People need to remember many charities now are businesses in themselves, with tons of overhead, which a big part of your donations go to. I'd rather donate clothing, food, or money to smaller charities anyways.

BaoTurbo 12-03-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mananetwork (Post 7213574)
What are the odds this article would be posted only a month before Christmas!

Only to get you to donate even more now. BS!
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LOL well I guess this is the time where people donate the most or have the most generousity

darkfroggy 12-04-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CamryV6Sport (Post 7213951)
LOL well I guess this is the time where people donate the most or have the most generousity

Sorry, got no money left over from Christmas presents.

Ask me during Valentine's :foreveralone:

DavidYeh 12-04-2010 11:02 AM

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I work for the largest Pension and Benefits company in the country, and we administer benefits for a number of very large charities in Canada.

Needless to say having access to each employees wages, and seeing how much Management and Executives get paid in these so-called "charities" would make me think twice to donate.
I work for a world wide non-profit organization as well. I dont really feel comfortable mentioning which one, but the wages and salaries are on par or slightly lower when compared to similar jobs in the work force. You cant expect those who work in the non profit sector (from your bottom end to top end management) to make a significant amount less than their counter parts working in the profit sector.

With that said however, I am extreamly disappointed at the spending, and budgeting of these large non-profit organizations. I have seen a ridiculous amount of money wasted due to bad decision making at the mid to top level management.

For me its not really about what salaries and wages are paid out to non profit employees as everyone who works deserves to be paid accordingly to their abilities and skills. Rather, the inability or unwillingness to decrease overhead as well as implement sound finaical budgeting is the reason why a large amount of donations do not reach those who are in need.

TomBox_N 12-04-2010 11:02 AM

I donate stuff and time, just not cash. Bet they dun take that into account in their study.
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booge_man 12-04-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBox_N (Post 7214343)
I donate stuff and time, just not cash. Bet they dun take that into account in their study.
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Yeah like donated clothes, and stuff to the Salvation Army wonder if that's calculated in this study?

jeffh 12-04-2010 11:12 AM

i bet if you got a tax receipt for food bank and clothing donations they would be overfull with stuff

Lomac 12-04-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 7213384)
What services? Olympics and Olympic Village? Free injection sites? Bike lanes?

Please do tell us what "services" you use on a regular basis that you know your taxes are paying for.

Y'know, thing like free healthcare, free elementary/high school, etc.

twitchyzero 12-04-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7214363)
Y'know, thing like free healthcare, free elementary/high school, etc.

some asian countries have just that..and they don't get raped by sales taxes, income taxes, carbon taxes.

granted, their social programs aren't as great..so really we truly live in a socialist society:)

Tapioca 12-04-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 7213384)
What services? Olympics and Olympic Village? Free injection sites? Bike lanes?

Please do tell us what "services" you use on a regular basis that you know your taxes are paying for.

Crawl out of your cave and look around you.

Roads, bridges, airports, border security, food inspection agencies, and the list goes on.

optiblue 12-04-2010 11:14 PM

Agree with everyone else. Money is hard to come by especially living in Vancouver.

Mr.HappySilp 12-05-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7214363)
Y'know, thing like free healthcare, free elementary/high school, etc.

as far as I know I have to pay my health care... well my company does it for me. But it is in no way free.

Bonka 12-05-2010 01:26 AM

My office encourages annual donations to Children's Miracle Network and while I'm happy to donate a pretty tidy sum each year I think next year I'm going to really cut it down and would rather volunteer time to help. I've volunteered before and there's far more satisfaction and you know your time is helping someone out directly.

Lomac 12-05-2010 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 7215099)
as far as I know I have to pay my health care... well my company does it for me. But it is in no way free.

Trust me, the $20/month you pay is tantamount to it being free when compared to the majority of countries that don't have a similar health care system like ours.

Ronin 12-05-2010 09:00 AM

Enough of our money goes toward charity before we even know it. All the welfare assholes in the Vancouver area eat up enough of our cash as it is. Plus...oh noes, there's slightly less in donations this year compared to last. Honestly, I was expecting a much larger drop in those figures above.

I don't think the recession is much of a deal here as it is in the States. The recession only hit us on a secondary basis because of the way the US economy affects ours. I think people are just reading more about how little of our donations actually make it to the people that need it and how much goes to stupid beauracratic bullshit.

Plus...Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are gonna take care of all this shit anyways. :troll:

twitchyzero 12-05-2010 11:41 AM

i think some people forget our province spends more than 60% of its annual revenue on healthcare (~$16.5 billion)

Graeme S 12-05-2010 12:18 PM

I don't think the recession is hitting us as hard HERE because our economy is primarily service-based. Out in Ontario and Alberta, in other places where it's labour or resources that are the main sources of income, I'd say it does hurt them.

Vancouver is dancing on a very sharp knife right now; I'm worried about my job (Private Adult ESL) come the new year. Not sure if y'all know this but there is a HUGE number of korean international students in Van; a giant chunk of them DT. If war breaks out in Korea, the ESL industry is gonna collapse and come out a million times weaker and less employed.

That's gonna be a lot of EI benefits paid out and a whole lot of people who have no serious occupational training looking for jobs.

Joys.
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sonick 12-05-2010 12:59 PM

What about all those BS Breast Cancer facebook campaigns and now this child abuse one?

stewie 12-05-2010 02:27 PM

i donated all the clothes i didnt want anymore to the canadian diabetes bin and the childrens hospital bin at the burnaby recycling depot today...threw away 4 garbage bags full of shirts, jeans, jackets, and sweaters!

im done donating till next year when i find out how many clothes i have that i no longer want!

Nechako87 12-05-2010 02:29 PM

i just went thru all my old clothes last night with my gf......donated a shit load to dda this year

Ronin 12-05-2010 04:02 PM

Speaking of charity, do you guys ever get bothered by those Asian (I can't tell what sort of Asians...Filipino, Thai, Cambodian...) ladies that come up to you with some random brochure asking you guys to donate to help children?

Not any sort of specific children...just children in general. I remember I was having dinner at a restaurant with my friends for my birthday and they just came right in and asked us for money.

That sort of thing annoys me. People who will donate to charity will do so on their own for the most part...we don't need the guilt trip and people who won't...there's no amount of guilt that will convince them. I told them straight up that I only donate to legit charities that I've heard of.

Mr.HappySilp 12-05-2010 04:06 PM

^^ guess you miss the thread about them. They are most xcammers so yea.

Ronin 12-05-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 7215685)
^^ guess you miss the thread about them. They are most xcammers so yea.

Link?

dark0821 12-05-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7215704)
Link?

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7215682)
Speaking of charity, do you guys ever get bothered by those Asian (I can't tell what sort of Asians...Filipino, Thai, Cambodian...) ladies that come up to you with some random brochure asking you guys to donate to help children?

Not any sort of specific children...just children in general. I remember I was having dinner at a restaurant with my friends for my birthday and they just came right in and asked us for money.

That sort of thing annoys me. People who will donate to charity will do so on their own for the most part...we don't need the guilt trip and people who won't...there's no amount of guilt that will convince them. I told them straight up that I only donate to legit charities that I've heard of.





http://www.revscene.net/forums/filip...ight=donations

7 pages and 151 replies later xD

lol yo.. it was so popular...

darkfroggy 12-05-2010 05:07 PM

How do you expect us to donate if you don't release an administrative log or any sort of data showing where the money went?


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