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LiquidTurbo 12-12-2010 05:15 PM

Leaked Cable: Shell's Grip on Nigeria
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...medium=twitter

Quote:

The oil giant Shell claimed it had inserted staff into all the main ministries of the Nigerian government, giving it access to politicians' every move in the oil-rich Niger Delta, according to a leaked US diplomatic cable.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...-Shell-007.jpg

Holy crazy shit. "Campaigners tonight said the revelation about Shell in Nigeria demonstrated the tangled links between the oil firm and politicians in the country where, despite billions of dollars in oil revenue, 70% of people live below the poverty line."

How would anyone know about something like this without wikileaks?

achiam 12-12-2010 05:16 PM

Actually its been known for over 10 years. Ken Sarowiwa is one of the best known cases regarding Nigeria's problem...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog...aro-wiwa-story

BNR32_Coupe 12-12-2010 06:54 PM

boycott shell

Carl Johnson 12-12-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 7225560)
boycott shell

Oh please. Do you really think BP, Chevron, Exxon, ConocoPhillips, Suncor, and the others major oil companies around the world are all outstanding corporate citizens? Come on, be real here.

jasonturbo 12-12-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 7225384)
How would anyone know about something like this without wikileaks?

Resident oil expert?

Obviously not, give your head a shake if you think this is news...

BNR32_Coupe 12-12-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Johnson (Post 7225574)
Oh please. Do you really think BP, Chevron, Exxon, ConocoPhillips, Suncor, and the others major oil companies around the world are all outstanding corporate citizens? Come on, be real here.

no, i don't actually. but how's this for real; under the "innocent until proven guilty" principle, we know 100% for sure that Shell participates with unethical practises - the others are potentially innocent. do you understand this or would you like me to break it into bite size bits?

Carl Johnson 12-12-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 7225662)
no, i don't actually. but how's this for real; under the "innocent until proven guilty" principle, we know 100% for sure that Shell participates with unethical practises - the others are potentially innocent. do you understand this or would you like me to break it into bite size bits?

Innocent until proven guilty? That definitely does not apply to big oils. BP was innocent until they had the biggest fuck up in the history of mankind. Look at what the Chinese state-owned oil companies are doing in Africa and tell me that we are going to assume they are just decent business people trying to make a buck.

The point is you can dig up the records for most of the oil companies and you will see that most of them are corrupt and they are directly or indirectly involved in the political and legal system of the Country they operate in. It is just a part of the game you play to keep your investors happy. Companies who try to be ethical and play it fair are either bankrupt or are on the verge of it.

tiger_handheld 12-12-2010 09:05 PM

noob question: How does wikileaks get all their info? and how credible is the info?

LiquidTurbo 12-12-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger_handheld (Post 7225731)
noob question: How does wikileaks get all their info? and how credible is the info?

Next time just google it?

http://www.wikileaks.ch/about.html

m!chael 12-12-2010 09:28 PM

I would care less if they owned the country, what I do care about is the fact that by some estimates every year the amount of oil spilled into the Nigerian environment equals that of the Exxon Valdez oil spill, which is though of as one of the worst human cause disasters of all time (to the environment). Every, fucking, year.

Marco911 12-13-2010 04:21 AM

Whenever any Western countries depart a region or business due to ethical or moral concerns, the Chinese are the first to enter to take up the slack.

GabAlmighty 12-13-2010 08:33 AM

Go drive a hybrid please, I need your gas.


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