+1

for the cruze

it's all over the media.

I think it's a cool car.

is he just trolling or is he actually being serious....?

You, geeknerd, indulge use with a poll at NSX prime to see what they think
This is a forum dedicated to the NSX, read the last comment
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3451

He could get a $300 beater if he had too, once you drive a new car off the lot it instantly depreciates +$5k. The NSX is a timeless classic where all the econoboxes that have been mentioned will still be worthless econoboxes 10years down the line.

This ones kind of close
http://www.cstatic-images.com/main/D...77/9180.03.jpg
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...5&aff=national

Check out Suzuki SX4.

I'm totally biased because I just got one, but its so fun I have 6 speed manual and AWD (2wd, iAWD, 4x4 lock switch)

I prefer it over a base model subaru impreza which doesn't have the option of switching awd modes and esp .

Do you EVER think before you type something? Yes you can buy an NSX, but it's NOT practical for someone who just needs a basic daily. Something breaks, and that person either has to get up early to take transit or could lose their job because they couldn't get to work on time because their car was out of commission. Again, STOP putting form over function.

Again, that aside, SX4 might be good, it sucks the Kizashi is a bit on the pricey side, I like that car.

everytime Arash makes a post, I get the same reaction as his avatar

sometimes? i get that reaction every post he makes :fuckyea:

Tell your friend to go Kia great warranty and amazing financing right now lol
And kia is decent looking now lol

+1 Cruze.

Anyone on the sight test driven a Cruze?

I'm getting more and more curious about it, I might need to stop by a dealership to check one out.

1.8ltr turbo should be pretty good. Only negative i can think of is turbo lag.

No Cruze is not engineered by Kia, and no Ecotec is not related to Hyundai's engine.

oh well then the article was wrong.

How about a Nissan Versa or Sentra?

the CVT in the automatic will also make a difference in terms of fuel economy, which will be a huge factor for your roommate since his commute is from Richmond to Langley. Though I haven't drove either of them - I think they are a worthy mention

If you're buddy is looking at the golf I highly recommend the TDi, it has tremendous resale value and effortless fuel economy. Only problem is the wait for one is quite long unless he got lucky and someone didn't want theirs. The 2.5 is a very competent engine in it's own right, very powerful and smooth but fuel economy will realistically be using almost double the amount of gas so IMO the TDi is worth the investment.

I test drove the fiesta and I'd advise against it, the steering ruins what would otherwise be a great driving car, but the price is also a little steep for it's size.

All in all though I think the fit is the solid performer for it's price, I'm guessing your buddy wants a more premium feeling car though, I like the cruze but the interior is still a little rental car to me, mind you I think that way of a lot of entry level domestic and asian import cars

FIESTA

if iw as in the market for a cheap encobox id choose the fiesta in a heartbeat.

then again i got a thing for hatchbacks now....

honda civic bro

I don't think anyone has mentioned Subaru yet, but you could get a base model Impreza for 20k or a Legacy for 23k. Those are both great options in my opinion.

Hey Arash buy an NSX

I would love one when I have my finances in order... but I would also redesign it :o

+1 omg 1000 km per 50$ fill up is what you want... TDI eats hybrid pussy for breakfast!!!

Jetta/golf/A3 all got some decently priced TDI models, altho they are more than a 2.0T engine, it'll pay for itself in a year

Jetta TDI, cheaper than the Golf, almost as nice and quite a bit roomier, IMO.

I test drove one when they launched it, and it drove as nice as the Golf (even with that new weirdo rear suspension) and the TDI has GOBS and I mean GOBS of torque, especially combined with the DSG.

The suggestions for Mazda 3 and Cruze are quite good as well, I like those two cars. :)

why would u redesign it when you consider it a "timeless classic,"?

Since the price differential is about $2500 for a VW 2.5L vs TDI

The price differential between diesel and gas is $0.25/L
The fuel consumption difference between 2.5L and TDI is about 1.6L/100km

via their 2011 brochure.

You save 1.6*0.25 = $0.4/100km

So you need to drive = 2500 * 100 /0.4 = 625000km to break even.

I don't know about you, I don't drive that much a year to pay for itself in a year! Not to mention maintenance cost required in the interim to reach that mileage.

For a high demand vehicle like a TDI, you won't get a break on leasing either.

It depends what the OP's friend wants to do with the car in the end.

The CVT is designed for fuel savings, but not designed for longevity. They are extremely expensive to replace and they will die.

Japanese manufacturers move to CVT because their domestic market demands it, but one has to realise JDM life cycle is much shorter than North American cars. Yes, they save fuel while they are in service, but most Japanese cars ends up export and out of owners mind after about a decade of service.