I'm option C (15 minutes early) for everything in my life not just work. I hate being just on time. Traffic is unpredictable so I would rather be there earlier then get there right on time or be late. Gf tells me that it's my OCD :lol

I always thought taking a smoke break while being a waiter was a no no, since you would come in smelling like smoke?

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Depends on how much I value my employer.

At my current job im an A. In my defense, I will say that yes, I get to work at 8am and i am ready to go at 8:05, but that means i work till 5 and i dont leave till say, 5:05.

If i got there at 755 and started working at 8, that doesnt mean i will leave 5 mins early to be gone by 5, i would still work till 5 and leave at 505.

In an ideal job where I enjoyed the environment and such I would do the latter.

My shift is for 8 tho, so I have to be there at 8. In a construction type job, it takes half an hour to set up tools and shit like that. Do you think they start work half an hour early ? fuck no lol. same with shutting down for the day, they gotta clean up all their shit, the day ends when they hop in their trucks and head home. not when they stop hammering the last nail for the day.

EXACTLY, it depends on the job. For construction, setting up/cleaning your workspace is a function of the job itself.

If you're early you're on time. If you're on time, you are late.

This is why you have to try and work for yourself as soon as possible. None of this A and B bullshit.

Does it really take everyone at least five minutes to be ready to work?

If I get in at 9am, I'm ready to work within 10 seconds, or as long as it takes me to hang up my jacket and type in my login password for Windows.

Typically, owning your own business means that you can't slack, even if you want to. Which means, possibly, getting up earlier, and leaving a lot later.

Pretty normal to take about 2-3 minutes. Login to phone, login to computer plus wait for it to load, login to all the apps you use etc. The worst is when the previous person shutdown vs restart. sigh

I tried a call center job long time ago,

after the training and we got out onto the floor,

I clocked into my phone at 8:00:01

1 second past. I did it on purpose just to see if they would care,

low and behold the supervisor came to my desk to give me a talking to.

He said I was late this morning,

I said I was 1 second late,

he said late is late, one more time and il get written up.

I said I did it on purpose just to see if you would say something over 1 second.

I quit the next day, no way in hell am I gonna work in a place like that.

I now have a "career" can do what ever the hell I want, whenever the hell I want, just as long at the work gets done, im stress free.

It's still more rewarding than following the guidelines laid out by some faceless corporation. And besides, I don't mean owning your own convenience store, I mean being the boss of some Fortune 500 company, which of course is easier said than done.

I started my own company a couple years ago. Now my day starts as soon as I can get out of bed and ends at whatever time Im done whatever part of the job I intended to do that day. But it doesnt end at that time, because after work I have to go do walkthrus, meetings, quotes, etc. And then on weekends Im running around getting things setup for the following week.

And as for my employees. I pick them up prior to the start time. Lets say we are starting at 7:30, I pick them up at 7:15. We are at the job site at 7:30 and they get paid from 7:30 on. If we get to the job site early at 7:25, they are paid from 7:30 on. If we get to the job site late at 7:35, they are paid from 7:30 on.

The company I used to work for before I started my own company.. I had to pick the work truck/trailer up from the boss's house and get to the job site by 7:50am to start at 8am. I would have to be at his house by 7:30am. And the reverse would happen in the evening. Leave the jobsite at 4pm, leave his house at 4:30pm. He only paid me 8am-4pm and said picking up the truck was "part of the job". One of the reasons I quit.

If you want to impress your manager/boss/co-workers, etc.

Be ready to start working right at 8am. Arrive at 7:55am.
Stop working at 5pm. Pack up and leave at 5:05pm.

That's the proper way. Although even some bosses/managers will be lenient, depending
on how they run their company. Some really don't mind, and expect you to just be in at 8.
Then you can get your coffee and whatnot. (Just remember that there's no bonus points here though,
so should he decide to give someone a raise, you won't be at the top of the list)


What I believe is the most important (that will also influence your bosses' standard) is
what type of job you're doing.

If you're dealing with clients, I would say if the place opens at 8, you need to be ready
to go right at 8. If you're working in a store, you need to be ready to go at 8 if doors open at 8.

If you're working in an office where you don't deal with clients, you're more flexible
to be there at 8, and get your coffee, turn on your computer, etc. You aren't serving any
customers, so 5 mins difference isn't a big deal.

im going to be honest here, i should start work at 6 but i dont arrive til 11 so im going to say it depends on the job. A) for jobs im not going to go anywhere in i.e. mcdonalds or in my case home depot (i don't work there anymore just using it as a reference from my high school jobs). B) for jobs i know i can move up if i try hard enough.

I work 2 jobs.

Day job just requires me to be there right at the hour. 1 minute late = written up.

night job i can be as last as possible, just as long as the work is done. Infact i've come 15 minutes late every time. What irritates me though is the people who stroll in 15 minutes late, then take 30 minutes to get ready.

I think that is the key factor.

If you're in a job that serves customers,
you sure as hell aren't getting your job done if you're late 5 mins and not physically there.

Whereas if you're in another type of job that just requires you to
get "X" amount of work done by the end of the day, then the work times
will be more flexible. As long as you get your "X" amount of work done.

Of course, there is always exceptions. Some bosses follow proper principle.
So 1 second late is late. But from my personal experiences, the only bosses that follow this are
the jobs where I had to serve customers.

yeah i understand it was changed
i'm just saying if the employer can't respect the employee standards act than why should i respect the employer by doing unpaid preparation work.

I understand if you work in hospitality, there's the trade off of good tips, but anything else there's no excuse..pardon my rant.

i work in a kitchen where coming in early (B) is an absolute must. I only have so much time to set up before service that if i show up on the dot, and then look through what i need, i will have spent anywhere from 10-15 mins just organizing what i need. that means I'm out 15 mins of setting up.

if i get there early, even tho i'm not paid during the time i inspect my station for what i need, i'm less stressed and less rushed to get ready for service.

there are times where i show up on the dot and just get to work, but thats only because i know its going to be a slow night with not much to prepare for.

I would say you SHOULD be paid for those prep duties, you are performing work at that point. Your shift should be scheduled 15 minutes earlier to account for that.

what i mean is i'll be ready 15 mins early. and just do a quick walkthrough so i have an idea of what i really need. i understand what you're saying, and i sometimes have that mentality so i just chill out till my actual start time, but overall, its a bit easier if i do that walkthrough and just take a mental note of what needs to be refilled, what needs to be made, etc.

im D. my shift is from 230pm-10pm. i get to work at 2, change my clothes etc put boots on and find out what ill be making that day then punch in at 2:20. takes me a good 20-30 minutes everyday to setup and get everything i need together. i dont start producing till about 3 most of the time.

few days this week i had light days, work hard from 3pm-6:30pm (no bathroom or water breaks) and have all the work for the day done. lunch break at 7, then do nothing but stand around and message on my berry till about 9 when i start my cleanup and its back to doing nothing at 9:30, then punch out at 10.

"A" if you are the employee ...

"B" if you are the employer

If there is even a difference between A) and B) your job probably sucks.

As far as I'm concerned, the minute I prox through the door and breathe the toxic air of outgassing carpets & laser printer toner, I'm on the clock.

None of this watching a BIOS POST, Windows PXE boot..... waiting waiting waiting.... type username and password...... waiting waiting waiting...... NOW I'm on the clock?

this right here

i hate being late for my stuff i get stressed out