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Jgresch 04-04-2011 09:34 PM
I haven't read Huxley, but I've read Orwell and Postman. OP, there are a couple things in that comic I'm sure you could relate to Vancouver, such as censorship, for example the public broadcaster CBC is owned by the government.

bing 04-04-2011 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7375343)
New York City has higher wages to support a more expensive housing market, while Vancouver does not. Many people argue that off-shore investors should pay higher taxes than permanent residents/citizens because they do nothing else to contribute to the economy here. I am told that other cities tax off-shore investors.


- The minimum wage issue is getting fixed (though of course, there are plenty of arguments against the idea.)
- There's nothing the government can do about gas prices. The oil companies charge what the market will bear and until people do something about it, they can continue to charge the prices we pay.
- If you exclude housing and gas, the cost of living in Vancouver isn't that bad. Food in Vancouver is actually quite cheap (if you keep dining out to a minimum) and most of all, it's fresh. Hydro is relatively cheap as well.
Yes I am aware the incomes are higher, but the condos in that city are millions++ dollar range. My cousin rents a small studio apartment and it costs him 2400/month. You could get a house in the suburbs out in long island for 600-700k but it'll still take 45min travel time from DT kinda like living as far as surrey. Still pricey even out there IMO and living standards are higher overall.

tofu1413 04-04-2011 11:14 PM

even hitler was pissed.

Rich Sandor 04-05-2011 12:00 AM
Taxes and Gas prices. It's too much. How do I know it's too much? I got RICH PEOPLE complaining about it. You know gas prices are too fucking high when even RICH PEOPLE complain about it. It's actually starting to cripple the economy. Gas goes up, transport costs go up, commodities prices go up. People pay more taxes, spend less money, businesses make less money, layoff workers or cut back hours, and then theres even less money to go around. The fucking carbon tax needs to go. It hasn't reduced pollution, it's just made people poorer and stuck them at home instead of going out and spending money.

Mananetwork 04-05-2011 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tachycardia! (Post 7375312)
I love you. Don't ever change
Damn it.. just realized it was an April fools joke ahhaah

rsx 04-05-2011 10:02 AM
Put these DTES drug users in a camp and make them do manual labour, dig trenches, etc. They're costing the city a lot of money just to babysit these clowns.

Tougher penalties on crime, if a suspect is found guilty, his/her assets should be seized and added to the city's treasury - oh yeah, cut off one of their hands and tattoo their crime somewhere on the body.

SchoolGlue 04-05-2011 10:40 AM
gang violence+whalley+clockwork orange-ultraviolence= milko plus+???+profit?

SFUguy 04-05-2011 10:41 AM
salmon farm industry

its infected with sea lice

blkgsr 04-05-2011 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rsx (Post 7376379)
Put these DTES drug users in a camp and make them do manual labour, dig trenches, etc. They're costing the city a lot of money just to babysit these clowns.

Tougher penalties on crime, if a suspect is found guilty, his/her assets should be seized and added to the city's treasury - oh yeah, cut off one of their hands and tattoo their crime somewhere on the body.
should be the same thing with criminals....why the fuck do they just get to sit there and do nothing all day, make the guy work

Death2Theft 04-05-2011 03:14 PM
The gas prices wont be high enough until I start seeing a reduction of escalades and similar faux baller suvs on the road.
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor (Post 7375989)
Taxes and Gas prices. It's too much. How do I know it's too much? I got RICH PEOPLE complaining about it. You know gas prices are too fucking high when even RICH PEOPLE complain about it. It's actually starting to cripple the economy. Gas goes up, transport costs go up, commodities prices go up. People pay more taxes, spend less money, businesses make less money, layoff workers or cut back hours, and then theres even less money to go around. The fucking carbon tax needs to go. It hasn't reduced pollution, it's just made people poorer and stuck them at home instead of going out and spending money.

Klobbersaurus 04-05-2011 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7375343)

- There's nothing the government can do about gas prices. The oil companies charge what the market will bear and until people do something about it, they can continue to charge the prices we pay.
do you look at the pie chart when you pump gas? i think about half the price of gas is taxes and we get taxed on top of the taxes and dont forget the carbon tax that is also kicking in the next couple months

EuterVanWasser 04-05-2011 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Klobbersaurus (Post 7376780)
do you look at the pie chart when you pump gas? i think about half the price of gas is taxes and we get taxed on top of the taxes and dont forget the carbon tax that is also kicking in the next couple months
Reminds me of this:

http://642blog.ca/wp-content/uploads...es-300x300.jpg

Tapioca 04-05-2011 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Klobbersaurus (Post 7376780)
do you look at the pie chart when you pump gas? i think about half the price of gas is taxes and we get taxed on top of the taxes and dont forget the carbon tax that is also kicking in the next couple months
The amount of tax you're paying today is roughly the same, percentage wise, as what you paid 10 years ago. The carbon tax is 7 cents on a litre. Say on average you fill up your tank 52 times a year. Your tank is 70L. That amounts to an extra 300 dollars a year. Yes, it's a decent chunk of money, but it's not back-breaking.

Look at it this way: you put back some in one cookie jar, but you have to take from another. If the government were to lower gas taxes, they would have to create revenue from another source. Alcohol, tobacco, property taxes, income taxes? Who knows?

Cman333 04-05-2011 07:52 PM
Problems:

-HST
-Income Tax
-Luxury Tax
-Carbon Tax
-Alcohol Tax
-Economy in general
-Overall cost of living
-Cost of property
-Insurance (ICBC)
-Transportation/Traffic
-Homelessness
-0.05 alcohol limit
-Canada line not open late enough


Cost of living is high, we get taxed insanely on everything from our own income to everything we buy. The gov't keeps subtly adding taxes. On top of that our property costs way too much, then you get jacked on mortgages and taxes on your property.

Just imagine your normal person, taking out a student loan, living on their own, working parttime, building their career from the ground up with no assistance from wealthy family.

tegz 04-05-2011 07:54 PM
ICBC monopolizes insurance and they fuck us up the ass with their high prices and unfair rules, fuck them.

Excessive speeding laws resulting in impound, seriously a money grab. Every time your vehicle gets impounded for a month, the "storage fees" are just under 2K, this makes no sense.

Clubbing scene is boring, people stay in cliques and bitches think everytime you start up a convo your only intention is to take them home and act all defensive unless ya got some mad game or hit up what is considered a "slut" by others. Seriously if you've partied in the states or asia or europe, you know what I mean.

cressydrift 04-05-2011 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tegz (Post 7377216)
ICBC monopolizes insurance and they fuck us up the ass with their high prices and unfair rules, fuck them.

Excessive speeding laws resulting in impound, seriously a money grab. Every time your vehicle gets impounded for a month, the "storage fees" are just under 2K, this makes no sense.

Clubbing scene is boring, people stay in cliques and bitches think everytime you start up a convo your only intention is to take them home and act all defensive unless ya got some mad game or hit up what is considered a "slut" by others. Seriously if you've partied in the states or asia or europe, you know what I mean.
Move somewhere else then?

rsx 04-05-2011 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tegz (Post 7377216)
ICBC monopolizes insurance and they fuck us up the ass with their high prices and unfair rules, fuck them.

Excessive speeding laws resulting in impound, seriously a money grab. Every time your vehicle gets impounded for a month, the "storage fees" are just under 2K, this makes no sense.

Clubbing scene is boring, people stay in cliques and bitches think everytime you start up a convo your only intention is to take them home and act all defensive unless ya got some mad game or hit up what is considered a "slut" by others. Seriously if you've partied in the states or asia or europe, you know what I mean.
Don't talk to Vancouver Special girls then, there are a lot of friendly ones out there, I think you just dig the heavy make-up, fake lashes and slutty clothing ahhaa

tegz 04-05-2011 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cressydrift (Post 7377242)
Move somewhere else then?
Really? that's what I get for posting my negative opinions of Vancouver on a thread that asks for them?

Sorry, but were you offended by my post? Cuz I can spend all day listing the stuff I do like about this city :)

boogabooga 04-06-2011 07:59 AM
Government.

We need someone who really gives a shit about homelessness, laws, drugs, violence..etc All these leaders talk about it to get voted in and do nothing to make change.

Death2Theft 04-06-2011 09:24 AM
How long would it take to get out there in rush hour vs vancouver rush hour?
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Originally Posted by bing (Post 7375769)
Yes I am aware the incomes are higher, but the condos in that city are millions++ dollar range. My cousin rents a small studio apartment and it costs him 2400/month. You could get a house in the suburbs out in long island for 600-700k but it'll still take 45min travel time from DT kinda like living as far as surrey. Still pricey even out there IMO and living standards are higher overall.

Tapioca 04-06-2011 09:50 AM
"High taxes", commuting times, decaying infrastructure, crime, etc. are challenges that all cities in North America face.

I would say that challenges unique to Vancouver are:
- The downtown eastside
- Real estate

Let's be honest: what goes on in the DTES has little effect on our daily lives. I would say that housing affects most of us in some way or another. There are still regions in Canada where you can afford to buy a home and raise a family on a modest salary: places like Regina, Winnipeg, or Red Deer. But, there are always trade-offs you have to make.
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dachinesedude 04-06-2011 10:53 AM
the dam taxes, all forms of it, be it income, comsumer, business, etc etc

it may be the single reason why i consider leaving vancouver

cressydrift 04-06-2011 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tegz (Post 7377471)
Really? that's what I get for posting my negative opinions of Vancouver on a thread that asks for them?

Sorry, but were you offended by my post? Cuz I can spend all day listing the stuff I do like about this city :)
I wasn't offended, just merely stating that if you have that much beef with Van-City then maybe its not for you.

Tapioca 04-06-2011 01:32 PM
Basically, Hong Kong is the best place on earth.

- low taxes
- capitalism abounds
- relatively clean and safe
- some of the best public transportation the world
- rule of law

I know some of my peers from high school went back and are raising families there. If you're functional in Mandarin and have ambition, I don't see why you wouldn't go there.
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Minata 04-06-2011 02:23 PM
^ I don't agree with your statement above...

Hong Kong is also one of the most unaffordable places to live.

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/a...-place-to-live

Air quality and living quality cannot compare with Vancouver.

Obviously, Hong Kong is a much better place to live in if you enjoy a bustling city... and even though I at one point in my life wanted to live in Hong Kong, that is definitely not the case anymore after visiting a few times. Just my 2 cents.


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