Man finds a deadmau5 after drinking Monster

[SkinnyPupp]

If a tire had "bad rubber" then they aren't doing their duty of creating safe tires. If a drink had a mouse jump into it by total fluke, even when they are doing their best to keep the area clean, it's just that - fluke. Not negligence.

Again this might not go along with the US court system, but that's the way I see it

[AzNightmare]

Sorry, I edited my post earlier. But you read it too fast. lol

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

As long as they did that job, without negligence, then yes it was just a fluke.

Yokohama's whole business is based on creating products that cannot fail. If someone runs over a nail and it pops their yokohama tire and they crash, they can't due yokohama. They just had bad luck. Like this guy who bought the can with a mouse in it.

Actually I would think maybe? I'm not too familiar with Yokohama tires,
so I'm not exactly sure about their claims about their tires being puncture proof.
Is that more of a "slogan" or is that something they are truly featuring?

I can imagine a company that makes bulletproof vests would get sued if
it claimed to stop "X" type of bullet, and it failed to do so.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm pretty sure all safety devices have disclaimers which indemnify them from all sorts of liability.

I'm not a lawyer, so let's just agree to disagree... let the bloodsuckers figure their shit out. I still hope the kid gets nothing but a big fat bill though.

[AzNightmare]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

If a tire had "bad rubber" then they aren't doing their duty of creating safe tires.

The claim is Monster isn't doing their duty of creating safe drinks then. So being unlucky isn't the issue.

Either way though, I think the kid does deserve money if this is true.
But too bad I think this story is full of sht, so the kid should get nothing.

[SkinnyPupp]

The problem I see is that they'd have to prove they weren't doing their duty of creating safe drinks. How do they do that? Review the facilities? I guess after that is done, we'll know for sure. If there are mice all over the place taking shits everywhere and jumping into empty cans, then they have a good point.

Otherwise, just a fluke, and they should get nothing.

If the story is full of shit, even better

[FerrariEnzo]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

The problem I see is that they'd have to prove they weren't doing their duty of creating safe drinks. How do they do that? Review the facilities? I guess after that is done, we'll know for sure. If there are mice all over the place taking shits everywhere and jumping into empty cans, then they have a good point.

Otherwise, just a fluke, and they should get nothing.

If the story is full of shit, even better

so if your eating at a restaurant, and you found a cockroach or some other type of insect in your food, but the restaurant is clean as a whistle, you wouldnt mind, and just tell yourself that its just bad luck??

[SkinnyPupp]

What else would I do? Ask them for money because I am psychologically injured? Think about it...

It's not like I would eat a cockroach, but wtf do you expect to happen? Cockroaches are everywhere, even the cleanest places can have one crawling around. Maybe it came from the dirty ass restaurant next door...

[orange7]

Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo

so if your eating at a restaurant, and you found a cockroach or some other type of insect in your food, but the restaurant is clean as a whistle, you wouldnt mind, and just tell yourself that its just bad luck??

I would not pay for the meal, and in fact, I would never go back there again.

It is not okay even if it was an accident. It is pretty much mandatory for them to not charge me a penny for that plate of food.

And for this monster drink case, I think it is mandartory for the company to compensate the kid after the incident, if it is true. I'm not talking about millions of dollars in compensation, but obviously that is what the kid and everyone (except for skinnypupp) want. Even just reimbursing the kid the $3 he spent on the drink is better than nothing.

[orange7]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

What else would I do? Ask them for money because I am psychologically injured? Think about it...

It's not like I would eat a cockroach, but wtf do you expect to happen? Cockroaches are everywhere, even the cleanest places can have one crawling around. Maybe it came from the dirty ass restaurant next door...

but what if you did accidentally take a small bit into a dead cockroach?

would you still pay for the meal at full price considereing it was an accident?

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by orange7

but what if you did accidentally take a small bit into a dead cockroach?

would you still pay for the meal at full price considereing it was an accident?

No, I would probably expect my meal to be comped or at least replaced. But I wouldn't expect hundreds of thousands of dollars like this geek is. I wouldn't claim emotional trauma and all those other buzzwords just to get some free cash.

[46_valentinor]

It doesn't matter if its one cockroach or a thousand, the fact that there is even one present in their product is unacceptable. Accident or negligence, it doesn't matter.
However, the story does seem a bit fishy...
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[StylinRed]

my dad found a clump of fur or mold (something like that) in his coke bottle (when i was a kid) he complained and a Coke rep came and gave him a few cases of coca~cola as an apology and made sure to take the contaminated bottle with him

i remember the subject of filing a suit coming up but my dad simply said "mistakes happen"

[LiquidTurbo]

I don't see this story as true. But if it were, Monster deserves to be sued, are you kidding me? It's not a "fluke". Manufactured food have certain "tolerances" if you will, when it comes to foreign matter like bugs, etc. For example in cans of soup there are acceptable amounts of insects parts that the manufacturers cannot exceed.

In this case it was clearly exceeded, so it is like a defective product that causes damage. It's FAR different than your cockroach restaurant scenario.
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[Nightwalker]

Rats carry and spread disease, and dead animals can make you pretty sick in general. This is a pretty fucked up case.

I understand SkinnyPupp though. I honestly wouldn't sue or press charges for anything unless whatever happened resulted in costly medical bills or something. Maybe this would be an exception, but everyone is way too goddamn litigious. I wouldn't feel right going after hundreds of thousands of dollars when I haven't suffered any damage or loss.

[unit]

Originally Posted by flagella

Wow... this logic doesn't even make sense. Everyone might as well think your way and every single business out there sure will save a lot of money in terms of quality control.

If I screw up my own food, I have the incentive to learn the lesson and not make the mistake again. If someone else screws me up, there's no incentive for him to not take advantage of me if there was no punishment. Since when did you start assuming people aren't selfish.

i think you hit the nail on the head with that reply.
companies work this way. they are reactive to situations.
when one thing goes wrong, they try to figure out why so it never happens again. i work for a large corp so im used to this sort of mechanism.

monster should have zero rodents in cans. not one per billion, but zero.
and if there is one rodent in a can, they better be putting some sort of new standards in place to make sure it does not happen again.

can you imagine if a year from now, another mouse is found in a monster drink?
that could pretty much sink the whole brand.

[G]

Pretty sure this is fake... I mean, if you are chugging the can, wouldn't the rodent sink and upon lifting, splash down to the opening? The guy must be retarded to not have noticed that before finishing.

And on the topic of cockroaches and insects in restaurants, yes, it is traumatizing. I have had this happen to me at a relatively famous Chinese restaurant in Vancouver and let me tell you, it freaked the fuck out of me when I see an insect 1 inch long with antennae still intact within a soup-based spinach dish. Now I always inspect my dishes upon eating at that restaurant, whenever we go, which is less frequent after the incident.

[Ch28]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Maybe I'm wrong
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....ya think?

[Westcoast67]

Not sure how real this is...but, when I was like 11 I quickly grabbed a cup from the cupboard and drank some water out of it. Only after I finished the drink did I notice it still had old food particles all in the bottom (the dishwasher had messed up). I STILL check all my cups before use, over a decade later. So I can only imagine having found a mouse in a closed can how that would affect this guy if this is in fact legit.

[jmvdesign]

I'm not surprised this can happen. This is a true story. When I worked in the kitchen (not naming my previous employer), I was doing the nightly cleaning after the dinner rush for closing. I took out a bunch of plastic inserts that held ketchup/sauce bottles from the fridge on the cooking line. Sanitized and wiped the insides of the fridge and when I was changing the plastic inserts (mandatory daily), I found a dead mouse underneath the ketchup/sauce squeeze bottles. I'm assuming it was there the whole night and it was squished to death from using those sauce bottles and placing them back in and out of those insert containers during the night rush. I don't know how it jumped inside the fridge on line but it freaked the hell out of me when I found it and felt pretty disgusted as I was serving food all night long. The chefs and managers obviously told us to keep it on a hush hush. This was about 7 years ago.

[t8v6]

Originally Posted by jmvdesign

I'm not surprised this can happen. This is a true story. When I worked in the kitchen (not naming my previous employer), I was doing the nightly cleaning after the dinner rush for closing. I took out a bunch of plastic inserts that held ketchup/sauce bottles from the fridge on the cooking line. Sanitized and wiped the insides of the fridge and when I was changing the plastic inserts (mandatory daily), I found a dead mouse underneath the ketchup/sauce squeeze bottles. I'm assuming it was there the whole night and it was squished to death from using those sauce bottles and placing them back in and out of those insert containers during the night rush. I don't know how it jumped inside the fridge on line but it freaked the hell out of me when I found it and felt pretty disgusted as I was serving food all night long. The chefs and managers obviously told us to keep it on a hush hush. This was about 7 years ago.

a restaurant is different from a manufacturing company though. And this is coca cola were talking about, not some new low budget startup company . I would expect their quality control to be top notch with the amount of capital they have. Coca cola is known for outsourcing large segments of their supply chain. It could be possible the mouse entered the can in some low cost factory that they outsourced their can manufacturing? No matter where in the supply chain or how it happened I would think the company is still liable for a mistake like this :/ Now I'm always going to look twice after opening a can of pop....

[AzNightmare]

How does the plausibility of finding a mouse underneath a bunch of squeeze bottles
equal to finding a mouse inside a sealed "pop" can?

Or are you saying you found a dead mouse inside your ketchup bottles?

I highly doubt the mouse was in there prior to production.
Not to mention a mouse inside would take up additional space in the can, making the monster drink overflow during
the filling process in the factory, which would then be detected by the inspectors before the cans get shipped out.
I'm pretty sure when the drink is poured/injected into the cans, the machines are programmed to fill to the top of the can.

[jmvdesign]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

How does the plausibility of finding a mouse underneath a bunch of squeeze bottles
equal to finding a mouse inside a sealed "pop" can?

That mice are cheeky little agile creatures? My point is they can squeeze through cracks and climb vertical surfaces. For them to get caught in an assembly line and fall into a production machine is not so farfetched.

[PiuYi]

Originally Posted by Bonjour43MA

Sorry for sidetracking this, and pardon me for not keeping up with RS' bullshit politics, but why the FUCK can't we fail Skinnypupp? Cuz he's a Mod?

That's fucking retarded. You are still just another guy with your own opinion on things, what gives you more rights than anyone else here? Fucking hypocrite.

lol this again.....

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Yokohama's whole business is based on creating products that cannot fail. If someone runs over a nail and it pops their yokohama tire and they crash, they can't due yokohama. They just had bad luck. Like this guy who bought the can with a mouse in it.

well one is the owner doing something to a perfectly fine product and destroying it, the other was a defect from the start (NOT the fault of owner)

doesn't really compare...

[TOPEC]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

I highly doubt the mouse was in there prior to production.
Not to mention a mouse inside would take up additional space in the can, making the monster drink overflow during
the filling process in the factory, which would then be detected by the inspectors before the cans get shipped out.
I'm pretty sure when the drink is poured/injected into the cans, the machines are programmed to fill to the top of the can.

I believe there's a few ways to fill bottles/cans in a manufacturing process. By weight which means a sensor measures the weight of the bottle/can and stop automatically, both of which can account for the weight of the mouse and stop automatically without overflowing. Even if the bottls/cans get filled by a preset amount, it would just over flow and no body would care as over flowing is probably a common thing. The bottles/cans gets one last rinse to make sure its not sticky.

Also I might be wrong on this but I believe cans do not have the top lid on until after the fill process. So its highly possible for a mice to fall in during the filling process.
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[- kT]

if skinnypupp found a deadmau5 in the bottom of a can of coke, he'd put the can of coke down, feel sick, but continue on in his day

completely logical