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kamalol 05-18-2011 12:03 PM

question regarding buying a used car
 
hey guys, im currently dealing with a guy in private sale selling his 2008 Accord, however, this guy said he wants cash only, like in 100$ bills, and no hst because he can give me as a gift....I am just wondering if theres any tricks involve with paying cash in bills but not money order...bcuz we just cant chase back the record if i pay cash....anyone has experience dealing with this?

Oscar_Binswood 05-18-2011 12:14 PM

Get a lien and dec check, plus vehicle inspection before you buy. I also wouldn't recommend signing it over as a gift if you want a paper trail.

Jsunu 05-18-2011 12:27 PM

Wow for a 2008 accord you have to pay at least 20000, so 20 grand in 100 bills? Seems weird/fishy if he wants this specifically :S

Also don't try to gift it, if you get caught you will get screwed pretty bad.

freakshow 05-18-2011 12:51 PM

Don't spend 20K unless you're comfortable with every part of the transaction.

ruthless 05-18-2011 01:08 PM

DO NOT do a cash transaction, definitely seems sketchy to me...and as stated above do not receive the car as a gift, if ICBC were to find out they will fuck you nicely

Get the car checked out, do a carproof, and carfax check etc. there may be a lien on the car, especially since the buyer won't accept another form of payment and wants all the cash upfront.

Leopold Stotch 05-18-2011 02:32 PM

lol i'm guessing it's not going to be 20g, and that's why the OP is considering it.


who wants 20gs in cash?

Cman333 05-20-2011 01:02 AM

Heh sounds like he plans on ripping you off at gun point

or

He could just mace you take cash and run

20K.... just saying. I would just pay by certified chq and part cash if you're really trying to save on the taxes. Gifting a 20K car to someone you don't know is kinda odd. Gifting a POS $500 beater is another story.

GLOW 05-20-2011 08:20 AM

i wouldnt trust anyone with that amount of cash
sounds like he's trying to take advantage of the greed to save on HST to scam you. for that amount, cashiers check or nothing IMO.

Jgresch 05-20-2011 08:49 AM

umm.... Gov't is gonna wonder why someone with no relation to you gifted you a car.... 12% tax>goign to jail for fraud.

just get him a bank draft, that's just as good as cash.

buddy 05-20-2011 12:50 PM

make sure you don't do your transaction in Lansdowne Mall ...

melloman 05-20-2011 12:50 PM

When it comes down to it, getting it gifted is just a plain bad idea for a car that still has some "WORTH" in it.

Gifting ANY CAR, tells ICBC that this car is WORTHLESS. On the insurance papers your putting the cars value to $0. So if you ever get into an accident, your screwed. If someone hits you, your covered under their collateral, but if you smash into someone, or something, your car is worthless and ICBC will laugh at you. gg.

ruthless 05-20-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melloman (Post 7441277)
When it comes down to it, getting it gifted is just a plain bad idea for a car that still has some "WORTH" in it.

Gifting ANY CAR, tells ICBC that this car is WORTHLESS. On the insurance papers your putting the cars value to $0. So if you ever get into an accident, your screwed. If someone hits you, your covered under their collateral, but if you smash into someone, or something, your car is worthless and ICBC will laugh at you. gg.

Source please!

seakrait 05-20-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cman333 (Post 7440885)
Heh sounds like he plans on ripping you off at gun point

or

He could just mace you take cash and run

20K.... just saying. I would just pay by certified chq and part cash if you're really trying to save on the taxes. Gifting a 20K car to someone you don't know is kinda odd. Gifting a POS $500 beater is another story.

+1 i'd stay away. very suspicious. or he's trying to do something else sketchy on the side.

seakrait 05-20-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melloman (Post 7441277)
When it comes down to it, getting it gifted is just a plain bad idea for a car that still has some "WORTH" in it.

Gifting ANY CAR, tells ICBC that this car is WORTHLESS. On the insurance papers your putting the cars value to $0. So if you ever get into an accident, your screwed. If someone hits you, your covered under their collateral, but if you smash into someone, or something, your car is worthless and ICBC will laugh at you. gg.

no.

if i give my car to my kid and he puts the car in his name, does that automatically mean that the car's value is $0?

icbc cares about the car's value. not how much you paid for it.

from another thread of RS:
Quote:

Originally Posted by fliptuner (Post 3974662)
Bottom line, ICBC sells insurance - they could care less what you pay for a vehicle. If it's in an accident, they pay what the car's worth, not what you paid. It's Revenue Canada (or whatever they call themselves these days) that cares if you're ripping them off.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/selli...ml#post3974662

illicitstylz 05-20-2011 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melloman (Post 7441277)
When it comes down to it, getting it gifted is just a plain bad idea for a car that still has some "WORTH" in it.

Gifting ANY CAR, tells ICBC that this car is WORTHLESS. On the insurance papers your putting the cars value to $0. So if you ever get into an accident, your screwed. If someone hits you, your covered under their collateral, but if you smash into someone, or something, your car is worthless and ICBC will laugh at you. gg.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruthless (Post 7441281)
Source please!

Quote:

Originally Posted by seakrait (Post 7441285)
no.

if i give my car to my kid and he puts the car in his name, does that automatically mean that the car's value is $0?

must be some c-lai's tale this kid picked up.

Cman333 05-20-2011 01:52 PM

Either way....don't pay all cash. NO ONE I've encountered has ever paid 20K+ in cash to buy a used car privately. Maybe <10k.

Maybe HE doesn't want a paper trail linked to him. Maybe the car isn't even owned by him. Maybe the car is a rebuild. Who knows, you want to cover your ass.



As for gifting the car and making it 0 value. That's new to me. ICBC always goes by market value. They'll use black/blue book pricing and craigslist/buysell to determine the value on a vehicle. I've seen many people get paid out MORE than they paid for the car (used car obviously). I doubt ICBC cares if the car's gifted. Afterall.....it's the GOVERNMENT that makes the HST. Not ICBC.

melloman 05-24-2011 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seakrait (Post 7441285)
no.

if i give my car to my kid and he puts the car in his name, does that automatically mean that the car's value is $0?

icbc cares about the car's value. not how much you paid for it.

from another thread of RS:

http://www.revscene.net/forums/selli...ml#post3974662

Yes I understand this. But have you gotten a gifted car and gotten into an accident? A friend of mine has.. and ICBC took into consideration that he didn't pay anything for the car, so he got much less then what the car was worth.. just something to take into consideration.

orange7 05-24-2011 10:25 AM

who is the seller? Anthony?

Jgresch 05-24-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melloman (Post 7445736)
Yes I understand this. But have you gotten a gifted car and gotten into an accident? A friend of mine has.. and ICBC took into consideration that he didn't pay anything for the car, so he got much less then what the car was worth.. just something to take into consideration.

Have you considered your friend just didn't know how to negotiate with ICBC? They always lowball hoping the idiot will say yes.....

alwaysideways 05-24-2011 12:19 PM

I have the same car for 5 g's less!!! Bring cash and come alone. Im located right near hastings and main :fullofwin:


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