cool, wasn't paying attention reading. doesn't change my point about media hyping up the story.

That's true...The worst part is that when comes a time that someone is actually being racially discriminated against, and they want to share their story, people will simply brush it off because the media has desensitized us to it or has hyped up stories that have very little merit (if any), to be considered racial discrimination...

Bring on the mighty fails, gentlemen.

Someday though, it won't be considered racism or 'unfair bias' for judging a book by, literally, it's cover.

When we see a person in uniform as we drive, we all tend to slow down, if I see a person wearing scrubs or a white lab coat, I assume Doctor..
When I see a person imitating a prison inmate, by acting like one and dressing like one, I'm going to trust my instincts..
I'm not going to fucking de-evolve and ignore my instincts that tell me "hey, that idiot over there just might be a smacktard who'll steal your shit, because 90% of the assholes that look like him, have done so in the past".

Sorry but, when exactly did we stop judging one another by how we look?
Because if you CAN choose how you look, and you choose to look like an inmate, I'm going to assume you are one... if that isn't fair, well then, I guess there is no hope..
I respect those who respect them selves, period.

By the way, not defending the guy in this story at all, if he's a racist, he's a racist tool, period. But if he said what he did because of how they looked, I don't blame him.

Political correctness can sometimes be a bitch, but I'll take heat for choosing common sense, regardless if it's popular or not.

EDIT: I'm a cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything.

But there is a distinct difference between observational bias against one's race vs. how a person carries themselves. I totally make snap judgements on how people dress (ie gansta gear etc.) because it is cognitively easier to make these judgments.

Human brains are made to function in the most efficient way possible because in terms of evolutionary functionality, waiting for our brain to react to something can mean certain death. Just because people say they don't discriminate, doesn't mean they never do, in fact it is the opposite because it is how we are wired to think.

The problem arises when people make these associations with an ENTIRE race, despite how they act or dress. Here, in my view, racial discrimination is wrong since it stereotypes a individuals behaviour based on their skin colour, despite the fact they are dressed in a "white lab coat" etc.

In my opinion, the apple store employees simply reacted to how they percieved their clothing and the way of which they carry themselves, and have less to do with their race as a whole.


Edit:

To further my point (highlighting the fact that cognitive efficiency hinges on making quick observational judgements) is how you will percieve someone who just tripped on their own shoe laces, at least initially, as an clumsy individual. You do not have any additional information to confirm this observational theory (he/she may in fact hold a doctoriate or is a expert in ontological care) but it doesn't mean you didn't stop and think objectivity about your observation.

This is also why first impressions are almost always important in interpersonal relationships as well.

To look up more, research cognitive miser. Although the social cognitive miser theory is not as popular as the Motivated tactician theory, to me it makes more sense in a evolutionary psychology framework.

I completely agree, very well said.
We are designed this way, true. But heres the thing.. I hate a white shit as much as I hate black shit.. it's all human shit anyway...

As I mentioned, if the old man was a racist tool, it's who he is and should be fired, but IF he was judging based on their looks, well, that I can't blame him for and would stand by him.
I am not taking his side by the way, I'm merely trying to keep things in perspective for some people.. because nowadays you can't say anything or do anything without being labeled a racist.. although that is also due to the fact that people were racist assholes in the past.

Also, judging an entire race.. that's as fucked up as choosing to dress like a complete fucking tool..

I tend to judge people on the way they CHOOSE to look. Keyword here being 'choose'. I think that's the difference.
I do get what you're saying though, well said.

You cant blame the MAC people,

it may be racial profiling, but its fuckin true.

I was at a rogers video once and I saw a black guy, hoody, gold teeth, and he tried to fuckin walk out with like 200 dollars worth of shit and he got caught by the metal detector. The only black guy in the store, was the only one trying to steal something. I just shook my head and thought he set black people back another 10 years.

If a black guy with grungy clothes entered my store, id tell em to gtfo too, they cant afford any apple stuff, their only there to steal something.

His race doesn't have anything to do with him being a moron.. you could have just said hoody, gold teeth, baggy clothes..

^ i agree with you,

yet it always seems to be the black guy that does it, maybe they are genetically born wanting to steal?

its the same thing as not letting brown guys into clubs because they are aggressive, if you remember that thread, which I also agree with because brown guys always seem so fuckin angry and macho towards everyone.

how is it not race related?

if an asian guy with gold teeth and baggy jeans walked into the store, I wouldnt kick him out because I would assume he is ballin with rich parents or some kind of mass illigal importer, in which case he is there to buy things, not steal.

asian guy baggy jeans = buy something
black guy baggy jeans = steals something
white guy baggy jeans = could go both ways
brown guys dont wear baggy jeans

^I didn't know if I should fail or thank you. While I disagree with racial discrimination, I laughed at your points.

And that describes a..? :fullofwin:


Stereotypes wouldn't exist if there was no basis for truth.

Asians can't drive
White people fuck thier siblings
Black People Steal
Brown people smell like curry.
Mexicans are lazy.
Natives are alcoholics.
etc
etc

But most of your stereotypes there ARE incorrect. They're stereotypes made by ignorant people and followed by ignorant people. I myself am guilty of using some of these stereotypes, but only for entertainment, pure jokes.

Asian's can't drive? Some of the best professional drivers and riders in the world are Asians.

White people fuck their siblings?! Haven't heard that one before...

Mexican's are lazy yet they're the ones who are also looking for jobs and doing all the "dirty" work in America.

Brown people smell like curry? Do you even know what curry smells like? Most brown people don't even eat curry in their diet, it's white people that want to eat it when they go to restaurants...

Native's are alcoholics...k well ya, that's true, but you would be too if you got it alcohol as cheap as them!

Although we're neighbors, people are very different in the states..

I shit you not, 99% of the people who dress this way here, ARE up to no good. So much so that if you were to ignore that fact, you'd end up being careless and get mugged, beaten up, shot, or worse..

It's pretty much basic statistics.. and again, this isn't race related. Every race is this way in the states so race plays no role in it really.. although what Glove said.. kind of is irrefutable if you were to look at it from a pure statistical standpoint.

True, it is more likely that the person who committed the crime is black, but it's not BECAUSE he's black.
(this is purely the case in Chicago, from my experiences).

Old saying......Dont judge a book by its cover..

That makes no sense, why else would the cover be there? To not judge it?
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ok thats just a dumb saying...don’t you know..?

Please think harder.

Its as dumb as you think it is. However, I don't think its as dumb as your reasoning.

You are the owner of a store. Who would you rather do business with:

1) Guy dressed up in formal wear carrying a briefcase
2) Guy with baggy clothing and a large backpack

I don't care what you guys say. Appearances do matter. You don't go to a job dressed in your beach clothes. You dress what you act like. A reasonable person would not wear clothing that is not appropriate for the occasion, or a few sizes too big.

Really?


I'll take the black guy with the bald head screaming out "where my dawgs at" any day...

You're basically saying you're a racist. Im sorry, YOU are a racists. GTFO.

This article is also posted in other urban forums - with its members predominantly black and asian.

The consensus: it's a poorly written article to hype up on the supposed racism of the store. The members were curious to find other sources written about the incident. Odds are, it was probably a repeat offender at the store that they recognized.