Parents are somewhat responsible for this, not because they're not beating the children as per the majority here, but because they do not want their children to experience what they felt as kids. Yeah, in our early 20's or whatnot, we may all chime in and say 'you have to beat them until they learn their lesson', but when the time really comes will you be beating your kids like your parents did to you?

I can tell you I was never beaten as a child. At most, it was an ear twist, in which they stopped when they heard feint cracking, which did not result in any pain. However, I think what is most important is that I spent a lot of time with my grandparents. They were a main source of my upbringing, and I think that is where I gained respect for the elderly. The kind of people you grow up with are very important. They could be nurturing, or they could be type who neglect/bully.

Typically a nurturing family would teach you what is good and what is bad, and want to be an active part of your life. Where as, a neglecting/unsupportive family will just let you do whatever you want. I think these days a lot of the parents just give up too easily, and all they do is sit back and hope that everything will turn out okay. Sure there are exceptions, such as kids who know how to act in front of family members.

It is up to the current generation to care about the [future] children, to show them what is moral and what isn't, and to be an active part of their lives. Friends are not always the best to learn from, it is up to the parents to provide the basic foundation for them. Yes, it is seemingly cheesy, but it is what it is.

forget race, if it was a father of any colour, those boys wouldve gotten the fucking business. im not a father but i imagine having your daughter fucked with is about as far as you can push a man
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Now that I've had several beers, i think you should have just smacked them with your dicks and been like "Bitch."

This.

Those kids wouldn't mess if the father was around. Or any dude for that matter. If I saw someone messing with a friend's daughter like that, I and I'm sure most of you would lay the smack down.

What's your job OP? ...youth worker...? :fullofwin:

by smack down do u mean like physically hit another mans child?

I was regularly beat when I was young, but my younger brother now gets off with so much stuff it's unfair. Sucks =(

This happen to any of you?

lolz, Ironically other way around for me.
Older brother got beat and I got beat by parents (I'm white btw) yet they put more trust in him while he was in his teens and he fucked everything up. Left my parents trusting me as far as they could throw me. (Not far....)

I wasn't beat, parents trust me completely, and I never got in much trouble.

Holy shit right?

i would probably scare the LIVING SHIT out of them, by aggresively yelling at them. Then I'd get their addresses/phone numbers and embarass the shit out of their parents as well lol

You should beat your brother instead then. :fullofwin:

If you guys are in your early 20s keep in mind that 10 years ago we were saying the same thing about you guys.

Figure of speech, really.

Do you go to the supermarket and ask where they keep the cans of whoop ass?

You've never had a can of whoop ass? :troll:

http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/whoo...opass-cola.jpg

My sibling & I were beat as kids. Whenever we fought with each other, lied, got in trouble in school, didn't do homework, etc..., the feather duster came out. And it was fucking scary. I've always been a good kid, but not only because I was beat. My father and mother instilled good values in us. It wasn't only about getting good grades, but hugely about respecting others and being a good person in general. In grade 12, I had a midnight curfew that I NEVER broke because I knew I would be in a world of shit (not the beats... that stopped after elementary school pretty much) with my dad. A lot of parents nowadays are letting their kids get away with breaking rules because they're just plain old lazy and don't want to give a fuck.

In a way, fear did make us good kids. I appreciate my dad disciplining us. However, this fear did make me hide things and lie to him a lot about things that he would disapprove of and sometimes these things got me in trouble. If I was able to talk to him rather than fear him, he could have given me his opinion on how to handle the situation. He's a smart man that I respect and I would have listened if he took the time to reason with me.

I'm not saying that kids NEED the beats. If I were to have kids of my own, I don't think I could lay a hand on them. Even ear twisting seems so savage to me. Rather, I'd try to keep my kids close. Talk to them and make sure that they feel comfortable expressing their feelings to me and telling me what they did with their friends that day or where they went to chill. I don't want my kids to feel like they have to hide things from me because I'll be angry. In a way, I DO want to be a friend to my children. I don't want them to feel obligated to come home for dinner. I want them to WANT to come home for dinner.

Parents should always be calm and rational. Think about what example you are setting for your kids when you're going apeshit and beating on them for something they did. My mother was the nurturing parent. She was always full of hugs and kisses, and as a result, I was able to tell her things. But I never feared her because she wasn't the disciplinarian. I guess my parents were a good combo.

Parents need to be aware of what their kids are doing. Kids shouldn't be given all the freedom that they want. Structure and discipline are SO important in upbringing. Now that I am an adult and working F/T, I know that I can't stay out until late partying because I have to wake up in the morning, I know how to manage my money, I excel in my workplace, I show a lot of respect for anyone who deserves it, and I know that I'm a good person in general. Some of my friends who grew up being able to do whatever they want have NO structure in their lives at all. Even though they're good people, they're up all night and sleep during the day, they have poor money management skills, can't wake up for work, can't be on time for shit (PLEASE TEACH YOUR KIDS THE IMPORTANCE OF PUNCTUALITY!!!!), work entry level jobs for years, and suffer, in general, for poor upbringing.

Raising a child isn't about good grades. It's about raising a well-rounded person. I feel bad for all the chinese kids whose parents think that school is everything. It's not. You'll see a bunch of UBC kids graduating from commerce, computer programming or accounting (or whatever programs those nerds are forced into by their parents) who are working shit ass jobs and miserable because they don't know how to properly socialize with people. In order for your kids to know how to get along with others, its important that you let them hang out with their friends and let them PLAY.

Just ranting. My thoughts are unorganized but I'm lazy to edit.

TL;DR, I know.

no. I volunteer with Cadets

Wow I can't agree with your post more - a simple "Thanks" isn't enough. I totally share your thoughts! You're gonna make an awesome mom one day.

quite a similar story with me. At the end of elementary school he said to me 'he will never hit me again'. and by then he installed a good FOUNDATION for my growth. after elementary he changed his tactics to the 'son i am disappoint :(' instead of the fear tatics.

i think he means this

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lck_sqdIkd...+Machida+4.gif

http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/ima...miley-rofl.gif

It's funny because it was true for me too.