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6insomnia9 07-06-2011 12:43 PM

a letter from the outer space: why developing apps for BlackBerry ? « ekkes-corner: eclipse | osgi | mdsd | erp | mobile

bcrdukes 07-06-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 7499532)
I honestly dont give a rats ass about music or youtube or games, so why should I buy a phone thats good at that, but inferior in the areas I use my phone (email, txt, , scheduling, msging, PHONE CALLS)?

This. Blackberry still has a nice phone feel to it. The iPhone doesn't.

Not interested in apps. Just want a device that will let me do business efficiently without the bells and whistles. Oh, and make phone calls like a normal person.

6insomnia9 07-06-2011 01:35 PM

^ /Thread.

gars 07-06-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nabatron (Post 7502312)
Blackberry is dropping it market share due to.........................slow ass processors in their devices, shitty os, app market non exsistent, the whole phone line is made up of cheap materials which fall apart...out of the box mm bb 9780 bezel was completely falling apart at the sides on my second bb 9780 and its doing the same thing, not to mention the bezel is made up of cheap plastic.

I don't know why people want that metal edge and glass screen on the iPhone 4. Sure, it looks great, but is impractical. In my company, two of my coworkers dropped their iPhone 4's the first day they gave them out. Not even a big drop, but a small one, maybe a foot or two feet off the ground, and crack goes the glass. I'm a little more careful with my iPhone so thank god, it hasn't cracked yet.

My BB on the other hand may be made of "cheap plastic" but at least I know that if I've dropped it (I have a few times), it won't break right away. I'm sorry, I understand that electronics are fragile, but phones aren't TV's - they don't just sit there on a stand, they're carried around in a pocket or purse all day - they shouldn't break so easily when you don't have a monster otterbox case around it, which makes the phone twice the size.

taylor192 07-06-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 7502295)
^ Funny how people have those stories.

Stories aside, market share stats don't like. Android is far ahead now, and iOS has leveled off for the past year, and even dipped a bit.

taylor192 07-06-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 7502357)
This. Blackberry still has a nice phone feel to it. The iPhone doesn't.

Not interested in apps. Just want a device that will let me do business efficiently without the bells and whistles. Oh, and make phone calls like a normal person.

I completely agreed with you and had a BB8900... until I got a Nexus S. I rarely used apps, mocked my friends who had 100s of apps which were mostly useless, and generally was happy with the few BB apps I used... then I realized I didn't use many BB apps cause they sucked, and not all the apps were useless crap my friends download.

I've modded my Android phone with many widgets that provide me all the info I want at a swipe of my finger. My BB never did that, despite being the "business" device which should be able to display the information I want, how I want it, when I want it.

Oh, and call quality is fantastic. :D The phone is slimmer and longer, so it feels more like a "phone" than my BB ever did. BBs are too short and fat, always felt odd using it as a phone.

!Yaminashi 07-06-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 7502319)
Those who just wanna be like everyone else will get the iPhone or Android or whatever the next "cool" thing is.

This isnt entirely true, I got an android because of what it's capable of.
Dont like something on it? It can be changed. Need an app to do something? Download one.

How cool people think I am was the last thing on my mind when I made the jump

jmvdesign 07-06-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7502426)
Stories aside, market share stats don't like. Android is far ahead now, and iOS has leveled off for the past year, and even dipped a bit.

It also doesn't help how Apple is just now adopting 2 year old features from Android (notification/message center). Why they won't add customization features like widgets is beyond me.

taylor192 07-06-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jmvdesign (Post 7502449)
It also doesn't help how Apple is just now adopting 2 year old features from Android (notification/message center). Why they won't add customization features like widgets is beyond me.

The main thing I like about Android is the widgets. I liked my BB home screen where I could have previews of my calendar, msgs, emails, ... and that's one thing that kept me from an iPhone. I love my calendar staring me in the face, otherwise I forget things after I dismiss reminders.

With widgets I can have all that and more! Hell I even put all the widgets on my lock screen so I don't even have to unlock my phone to see my calendar or notifications.

I was inspired by this:

http://img54.xooimage.com/files/8/6/d/atrix-2627b4a.jpg

and this:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ans-8-1-10.gif

DanHibiki 07-06-2011 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmvdesign (Post 7502449)
It also doesn't help how Apple is just now adopting 2 year old features from Android (notification/message center). Why they won't add customization features like widgets is beyond me.

Because widgets on the android isn't 2 years old yet

:troll:

RRxtar 07-06-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7502436)
I completely agreed with you and had a BB8900... until I got a Nexus S. I rarely used apps, mocked my friends who had 100s of apps which were mostly useless, and generally was happy with the few BB apps I used... then I realized I didn't use many BB apps cause they sucked, and not all the apps were useless crap my friends download.

I've modded my Android phone with many widgets that provide me all the info I want at a swipe of my finger. My BB never did that, despite being the "business" device which should be able to display the information I want, how I want it, when I want it.

Oh, and call quality is fantastic. :D The phone is slimmer and longer, so it feels more like a "phone" than my BB ever did. BBs are too short and fat, always felt odd using it as a phone.


youre comparing an entry level 8900 curve that was released in early 2008 probably running os4.5 to a brand new top of the heep nexus s?

ya, 2011 F350s are cooler than 97 F150s too but thats a shitty comparison.

dangonay 07-06-2011 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7502426)
Stories aside, market share stats don't like. Android is far ahead now, and iOS has leveled off for the past year, and even dipped a bit.

Sure Android is ahead. To the tune of about 500,000 activations per day compared to about 300,000-325,000 for iOS. However, you ignored my comment about the type of Android devices. Not all of those 500,000 devices are "Steaks", rather they are "Big Macs".

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmvdesign (Post 7502449)
It also doesn't help how Apple is just now adopting 2 year old features from Android (notification/message center). Why they won't add customization features like widgets is beyond me.

I'm curious, do you own an iPhone? If you do, then I can see being upset that features like Notifications or iMessage took so long to hit iOS.

If you don't own an iPhone, then why does it matter if they got the features late?

DanHibiki 07-06-2011 07:38 PM

http://www.revscene.net/forums/mobil...lackberry.html

I made a new thread for these debates.

taylor192 07-06-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRxtar:7502558
youre comparing an entry level 8900 curve that was released in early 2008 probably running os4.5 to a brand new top of the heep nexus s?

ya, 2011 F350s are cooler than 97 F150s too but thats a shitty comparison.

oh so you know fuck all about BBs then. You can upgrade the os to the latest, so your comparison is stupid at best. even with the latest os the apps still suck, and its not the speed, its the shitty apps themselves.

taylor192 07-06-2011 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangonay:7502657
However, you ignored my comment about t3e type of Android devices. Not all of those 500,000 devices are "Steaks", rather they are "Big Macs".

Who cares? apple is about to start giving away iphone 3s to get more market share with people only wanting entry level phones. So even apple thinks your argument is stupid.:p

6insomnia9 07-06-2011 09:41 PM

People dont buy BBs for APPS.

I dont even use apps on my BBs, they are just bonuses that come with phones.

Iphones and Andriods are nothing without their apps.

The only app i ever use is Google Maps and it is the only app i need.

Lets just say this BUY A BLACKBERRY IF YOU HAVE BUSINESS RELATED SHIT TO DO.

IF NOT BUY A IPHONE/ANDRIOD , ENOUGH SAID

Sticking with blackberry until the end of time.

gars 07-06-2011 09:50 PM

I have to say though, the one app that I really do use IS google maps.

AND

the best device with it is Android. Not all android devices have access to the latest Google Maps though, but those top ones, man, they're insane. Loads up so much faster than any iOS or BB device. Plus, they have an offline mode that will store the most frequently looked up locations.

SlySi 07-07-2011 03:57 PM

BB user for over 5 years now.
I switched to Iphone and Android.
Loved both of them. Had to go back to BB though. Just felt more practical.

My likes of BB are a solid keyboard, durable built phone, simple LED, reading and writing email was much simpler.

Fast forward to today.
I am on the edge.
If I dont get a fast CPU, swift touch screen, quality built phone within months.
I have no choice but to jump ship soon.

Common BB user "I dont need the apps". I am a business user.
If you truly are a business user. Its time to adapt and evolve.
Blackberry clearly isnt. With their useless "BES Tax System", lack of innovation, badly managed corporation, upsetting Telecom's and of course clients.
Its time to move on.

Apps and widgets are only getting better and growing at a remarkable pace.
Some of the most amazing tools are in the APP store for Android and Iphone.
Learn to use and adapt to this phenomenon.

BB is legacy. Their new OS may help them. Unfortunately new OS might not be enough.
BES is hated. Its not wanted. This BES subcription fee is what makes RIMM profitable.
With corporations jumping off BES.
RIMM could be in some serious trouble.

Once a great innovative Canadian company. Now its a desperate company trying to catch up.

If I had to chose a phone.
I would say Iphone.
Since Im a true believer of Open source and so should EVERYONE.
My next phone will be a Droid.

goo3 07-08-2011 01:00 AM

To be fair to RIM, Apple and Google aren't exactly chumps.

Culverin 07-08-2011 04:05 PM

Wait a sec... they are releasing it later this year and it's ONLY a single core?
New pictures of BlackBerry Touch Monza leak - GSMArena.com news

Won't the iphone 5 come out by then being a double? There are even low-clocked androids that are dual core now.
:failed:

6insomnia9 07-08-2011 04:22 PM

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