So your saying we should just bend over to take the $3.4M in lost revenue each year. Accept the +$0.02/L in gas levy. Correct?

If turnstiles were installed, and it cost $40M for the turnstiles, what would our assumed lost revenue be annually? That's the real question. If made sufficient enough, and each station had 2 skytrain personalle (which they do now IIRC) then those 2 people could watch to make sure there wasn't fare evasion. Ofcourse, there willl always be fare evasion (just like car theifs) but were just trying to deter them.

yup its fucking retarded, in asia they charge how many stations you are traveling than you pay a x amount.


Here it can be 6 stations or 1 station, u pay the same price. WTF


Say you are traveling from metrotown to royal oak, who the fuck pays $2.50 for 1km?

SKytrains are inconsistant too, they give the newest blue ones with bigger seats, and AC included. THan there is the white one, or the ones from 20 years ago. Get rid of those 20 years junk plz

Totally agree with this.

When I was in the philippines with my gf, I was surprised how nice their skytrain was. It's a small line but you pay for the destination that you're going to, not one damn flat rate like it is here. They also have turnstyles.

Lol don't post here if you know nothing.
http://www.translink.ca/~/media/imag..._zone_map.ashx

See that's how the zone are place so if you want to cross between more than 1 zone you pay for 2 or 3 zone fares. If you live at the border of one zone and needs to cross to the border of another zone, it sitll counts as a 2 zone fare (example Patterson to Joyce that's less than 3mins ride but still consider 2 zone). See how stupid and dumb the system is.

http://www.translink.ca/en/Fares-and...-Zone-Map.aspx

Those old trains are a GODSEND on a hot summer day. At least you can open the windows.

I don't ride the Canada line, but on the Expo / Millenium, the new trains have A/C but it is like having someone blow hot air on you all the time.

Once Translink moves to distance-based pricing, there will be winners and losers as there are under the current zone system. People who have to commute long distances (e.g. Surrey to downtown) will likely pay more under such a system. Or I can imagine people who travel from one end of Vancouver to the end may pay more than they're currently paying. Ultimately, I think most regular users will pay more and casual users who travel short distances will end up paying less.

The original trains may seem crappy with no A/C, but they've held up really well over the past 25 years. The brand new trains have A/C, but it doesn't work all of the time and the doors seem of really poor quality (they were assembled in Mexico after all.) Just because something is new doesn't mean it's built to last. I think about how cars were manufactured in the 80s (think German or Japanese) compared to the crap that's being produced now. Things were built to last in the past, but not now.

You could ask me instead of assuming. I'm just bringing you back to reality. You were in dreamland looking for an easy solution and someone to blame as illustrated here:

What do I think? This is what I think:


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In reality, turnstiles will cost closer to $100M for install to save, say, $40M over ten years. Not to say they aren't worth the money for tracking and being able to implement different pricing schemes, but negative $60M won't pay for a new Port Mann bridge. What it will pay for, though, is peace of mind and the perception that Translink is doing something right.

What else do I believe? I believe we get the politicians we deserve. And the only way to get better politicians to demand more of ourselves when we criticize or reward them. Another topic, but somewhat related to this thread.