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So from this post I gather that toronton has no good food and women Montreal/Alberta has good food and women just bad winters You like to drive 8 hours to and from abby to snowboard. How can vancouver not have beaches we are surrounded by water and a shipping port. Quote:
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Nice topic! I have been wondering the same thing and debating between Van and Toronto. I have been working in China for the past year, and by next year I should have made enough to 1, outright buys a townhouse/condo under 350K in Toronto, 2, put down a pretty decent down payment for a single family house in Richmond hill/ Mississauga area in Ont; 3, put down a decent down payment for a relatively smaller townhouse in GVRD. I LOVE Vancouver for its weather (I actually like the rain and the people are amazing), but the housing price is outright ridiculous and highly overvalued IMO, and Toronto on the other hand is a lot more affordable. Career-wise Van has struck me as a more relaxed place, and career jobs are very hard to come-by while Toronto has more openings (and more competition, I know). If I am single, I will probably live like Taylor192 and live comfortably with a rental property/investment income and renting a place for my own, but I married with a 2 yr old, and I can not take more nagging from my wife about buying a place anymore lol. |
^lol @ the nagging part. Honestly, though it sounds like vancouver is a better match for you (ie weather), i bet if you move, in 5 years max you'll be so used to it and won't regret it. With that said, you should just decide if you're more career-minded or more about enjoying your life. If you really enjoy vancouver more, and it's just a bit less affordable for you, who cares? What are you gonna do with your bigger house in...missasauga? I'd rather have a smaller house in vancouver in that case. On the other hand, if you really think you can make more there and enjoy your life because of that, move there instead lol. It's not like you're deciding between vancouver and nigeria here lol...both will be more than fine |
Unfortunately I think that if you want a greater chance of "making it rich", you have to leave Vancouver and head east or leave the country or own a successful business. More opportunities plus taxes are lower if you leave Canada for a decent salary. However, I noticed that most of the rich in Vancouver are business owners, as they can deduct their expenses to lower their income tax. Imagine earning an $250 000 salary, only for the government to tax nearly half of it. |
I'm a third generation Vancouverite (my grandfather moved to Vancouver in 1918 to escape the draft in Japan)...I can't imagine living anywhere else. |
Don't think like that, there's lots of good places out there to live. I know a lot of people that have never moved anywhere else or even traveled outside the city. Hell they've never even been to Abbotsford. But they blindly proclaim it's the best place on earth.. which is kind of a narrow kind of thinking. |
I'm sure there are other great places to live, but not for me. Maybe it's narrow, but I like it here just fine - I have no desire to live anywhere else. I've lived in Japan (Hiroshima & Tokyo) for a bit and hated it. |
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Not sure about the food in those places. Montreal should be decent because of all the French influence. Terrible winters, though. No idea on women, although I hear they are hot. 8 hours? You nuts? more like 3 each way, but who cares? At last I'm not paying through the nose for some shit "high end" apartment in Yaletown, that oh by the way more often than not has laminate floors and some sort of fake granite-looking countertop. And that thing with thick dark grey sand near the water isn't *really* a beach. This is not a beach: http://images.travelpod.com/users/go...-vancouver.jpg This, however, is something I would consider a beach: http://www.filmapia.com/sites/defaul...ldon-photo.jpg If Vancouver was so full of beaches, people wouldn't be going to Mexico for their beaches. |
cross border shopping in either calgary or edmonton is a long ass drive...... but the thing is they will refund you tax....... tee hee hee |
It's quite sad seeing people say they will live in Vancouver for the rest of their life since they grew up here and love it. People should explore the world, or at least their own country and see things from a different perspective before making such a judgement. But that's typical Vancouver mentality. Live in a bubble, die in a bubble. Posted via RS Mobile |
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Weather is nice (imo anyways), a great variety of cuisine choices, people are friendly, streets are safe (yes it is, even after you factor in C-lai driving) etc. Overall it's a great place to raise a kid |
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Wouwou, you are correct, Vancouver is a great place to raise a kid depending on what you want. For you, you are at that stage where you need to consider this for family planning and from what I gather, you have been working in China and can understand different culturues and cities and see what suites your needs. My post was more directed to those who are in their early stages of life (majority of RS) who have the mentality to stay here only because that is all they know. They are afraid to take risks and leave their sheltered lives just because they lived here for the first quater of their life. Vancouver is no doubt a beautiful city, but people need to go out to compare first, not just make irrational judgements. But like I said, typical Vancouver mentality; feel entitled to things and never live outside their buble. Quote:
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I guess if you do a lot of outdoor activities, then yes Vancouver is great for that. But for those that are saying there's lots to do within few hours of driving...I disagree...it always seem to be either the island, bellingham/seattle, or whistler. If you live in the states, roadtrip possibilities are so much better (thanks to their vast network of freeways). The only other place I would considering living for more than a year within this country other than Vancouver would probably be Montreal. For a smaller city feel I would definately wanna try out the places in maritime like charlottetown |
I spent a week in New Brunswick before. The people seem nice, but man if you think Vancouver or Edmonton or Calgary are boring.... |
There's opportunities to make money in Vancouver if you're willing to be shady about it. I don't mean the obvious ways like dealing drugs or other illegal goods. For example, a lot of mining companies make their home in Vancouver. I used to work for a major bank and I used to process wire transfers for these companies. Lots of money moving around based on false premises. Sometimes I do lament what Vancouver has become... I grew up in the 80s so I remember when Vancouver was a great place to raise children for families on modest incomes. Then Expo 86 happened and Vander Zalm sold False Creek for a penny to Concord Pacific and the rest is history. Condo disease and real estate speculation, offshore money, immigration (from overseas and within Canada) and this myth that we're world-class. The city has changed, but I'm not sure if it's for the better. Still, I wouldn't live anywhere else in Canada though unless they paid me double. |
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You are right, if you are single, young, Vancouver is PROBABLY not the place for you to spend your 20s-30s. The world is full of wonders and people should really get out more to experience everything. I have been to Europe, South East Asia, and recently been working in HK and China. I can say that for a single man who is willing to work, Vancouver is pretty lacking in terms of opportunities and the return is similarly bad. For someone in their 20s that's MURDER, since this is the age where you are able to take risks and can afford to lose it all. Not taking risks when you are young pretty much = driving a Taurus in your 30s one day and realize you fucked up your life for good. 4 years ago I was able to play options and margin (on a fucked up level) which yielded a sizable profit. There is no way I can do that because I have a lot more responsibilities as a husband and a father to take that risk. So in short, if you are young and single, GTFO and live a little, since your family and friends are already in Vancouver, the worst you can get is to get back to where you are. |
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Sure they drive up the real estate prices and I hate them for that, but without the proper knowledge to utilize the money they bring in, they are just a really good potential market segment, nothing more. :fullofwin: |
Okay slightly off-topic but still applicable: Would you raise your kids up in Vancouver? Looking at the kids now, it seems to get worse and worse. They don't seem to have any direction in life except trying to be hardcore. All they know is Gucci murses, crooks & castles, nammer squats, and hoodrat bitches with right-angled eyebrows? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE KIDS IN VANCOUVER NOWADAYS?!!!!!!! Man... I grew up in the Vancouver East side and I picked up so much negative influence as a youth it was scary! I'm still trying to weed out some of the bullshit out of my system as I type this right now. |
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Been around the world and landed on almost every continent, amazing experience I will never forget! Vancouver will always be home, born here and will die here. |
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the parents that are too busy are either too concerned with becoming rich or simply have to over work themselves to keep the family afloat. |
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