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XplicitLuder 09-16-2011 05:53 PM

missed my ec dosage today :alone: didnt know i was gonna be at work the whole day

willystyle 09-17-2011 04:12 PM

Go to a dollar store, and buy yourself a weekly pill organizer so you can bring it on the go. I sort it once a week, and just bring it wherever I go, that way you will never miss your dosage.

vafanculo 09-19-2011 07:48 PM

Gonna do this. Enough pussy footing around.

I read on one of the links not to do Hiit? Those of you with success, do you do much cardio then? I like to skip and do hiit after lifting, no good?

I take it you need just proper diet and some excersize and you are good to go? Also, no pre workout drinks? :(
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willystyle 09-19-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vafanculo (Post 7583656)
Gonna do this. Enough pussy footing around.

I read on one of the links not to do Hiit? Those of you with success, do you do much cardio then? I like to skip and do hiit after lifting, no good?

I take it you need just proper diet and some excersize and you are good to go? Also, no pre workout drinks? :(
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Don't do HIIT. In fact, don't go over your target heart rate (Use google to calculate this).

I don't do much cardio, but if I do, it's only power walking as I don't want to add unnecessary stress to my heart. Push yourself on weight lifting, eat a proper diet, then your weight should come off.

There's nothing stopping you from taking a pre/post-workout drink. Drink plenty of water, and avoid all caffeinated and alcoholic drinks.

ShadowBun 09-19-2011 10:13 PM

can we drink a bit of tea?

willystyle 09-20-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowBun (Post 7583844)
can we drink a bit of tea?

Strive for decaffeinated (even though it still has a bit of caffeine). Depending on how sensitive your body is to caffeine and ephedrine in the first few days, I would hold back on drinking decaffeinated drinks for the first few weeks, so your body could build a tolerance for it.

I'm at week 4 now, I drink decaffeinated drinks cause I know my body has gotten used to the stimulants, and I don't feel any ill effects at all. As a matter of fact, all the side effects that we've discussed in this thread has diminished for me.

neggo 09-20-2011 01:29 PM

Okay, so I'm very curious about this. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I do intense cardio regularly, about 4 times a week and I also lift 3-4 times a week. If I were to take EC stacks, should I only do it on the days I lift and avoid them on days I do my intense cardio?

willystyle 09-20-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by neggo (Post 7584474)
Okay, so I'm very curious about this. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I do intense cardio regularly, about 4 times a week and I also lift 3-4 times a week. If I were to take EC stacks, should I only do it on the days I lift and avoid them on days I do my intense cardio?

Depends what your goals are. Some take this as a pre-workout supplement for energy, others take it as a fat loss aid.

neggo 09-20-2011 11:28 PM

I wouldn't mind losing a bit of weight but not too much.

XplicitLuder 09-21-2011 12:14 AM

i take this 3 times a day EVERYDAY lol and when i work out (which is 6 times a week) i do my regular lifting and about 10mins of a moderate jog at the end. This is only my first week (day 7 was tonight) and my jeans feel lose and not even the belt, which at first it would only make it into the first hole LOL, can keep it in place! And now its on the last hole :fuckyea:

hamsup 09-21-2011 07:14 AM

^ huh ??? So in one week you went from your last hole of your belt to the first ??? so you lost 2 inches in 7 days ?? seems unnatural.. lol

willystyle 09-21-2011 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by neggo (Post 7585246)
I wouldn't mind losing a bit of weight but not too much.

So I take that you want to cut, follow the instructions on hotnfit, and cut out the high intensity cardio.

willystyle 09-21-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hamsup (Post 7585407)
^ huh ??? So in one week you went from your last hole of your belt to the first ??? so you lost 2 inches in 7 days ?? seems unnatural.. lol

Same, unless he's 500lb, there's no way he could lose that much in a week.

vafanculo 09-21-2011 03:08 PM

Purchased EC today, starting tomorrow. Thinking of doing 4 weeks worth, then take a break and see how to proceed. Sound about right?

Any tips? (not gonna lie, kinda scares - heart wise)

Will post results in 4 weeks. Starting weight 221.
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sonick 09-21-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by neggo (Post 7584474)
Okay, so I'm very curious about this. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I do intense cardio regularly, about 4 times a week and I also lift 3-4 times a week. If I were to take EC stacks, should I only do it on the days I lift and avoid them on days I do my intense cardio?

I'd avoid super intense cardio altogether. The thermogenic effects continues even on days you don't take the stack, and for several weeks after you stop.

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Originally Posted by vafanculo (Post 7585767)
Purchased EC today, starting tomorrow. Thinking of doing 4 weeks worth, then take a break and see how to proceed. Sound about right?

Any tips? (not gonna lie, kinda scares - heart wise)

Will post results in 4 weeks. Starting weight 221.
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Start suuuper slow, drink lots of water, don't ignore side effects if you come across any.

Qmx323 09-21-2011 03:37 PM

Week 2 of off cycle.

Still sweating more than before starting cycle, appetite noticeably smaller. I had headaches and a short temper when first coming off, but that was because I didn't gradually ween the caffeine out, I just stopped it altogether lol.

willystyle 09-21-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vafanculo (Post 7585767)
Purchased EC today, starting tomorrow. Thinking of doing 4 weeks worth, then take a break and see how to proceed. Sound about right?

Any tips? (not gonna lie, kinda scares - heart wise)

Will post results in 4 weeks. Starting weight 221.
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Follow the hotnfit chart and start off slow. Don't take EC if you have preexisting health conditions like heart problems. Drink lots of water, and immediately get off of the stack if you suffer severe side effects. Take your last dosage 6-8 hrs before u sleep, otherwise you'll stay up.

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Originally Posted by Qmx323 (Post 7585808)
Week 2 of off cycle.

Still sweating more than before starting cycle, appetite noticeably smaller. I had headaches and a short temper when first coming off, but that was because I didn't gradually ween the caffeine out, I just stopped it altogether lol.

I have crazy mood problems too, it's a side effect.

rageguy 09-21-2011 06:32 PM

Yeah, I can vouch for the mood issue too. I notice that I am easier to be irritated. Kind of like short temper. Thankfully I make myself remember that this is a side effect, so I can consciously suppress it.

I'm about to be off EC. Very positive results. I'll miss the early morning super energy boost.

vafanculo 09-21-2011 06:37 PM

Thx for the tip guys.

Yea, I remember when I used thermapro few years ago (fat burner with ephedrine) I'd have crazy mood swings. A buddy of mine almost beat up a guy during a soccer game and we would always be raging.
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XplicitLuder 09-21-2011 09:53 PM

i weigh'd 292 (according to this manual weight machine thing, altho i think its wrong lol i wanna try a digital) my BF is 18-20% and this was where i put my belt on my size 40 jeans at the start of this

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...0921-00048.jpg

and now a week later , im here

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...0921-00049.jpg

willystyle 09-21-2011 10:56 PM

First of all, at 292, your body fat is NOT at 18-20%, not even if you're 7 ft. tall, if you're reading this off your home weight/bf% scale, IT'S WRONG. The only way to accurately measure your BF% is to get it professionally done.

Secondly, by first week, do you mean first week on the stack or your exercise/diet regime?

XplicitLuder 09-21-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by willystyle (Post 7586353)
First of all, at 292, your body fat is NOT at 18-20%, not even if you're 7 ft. tall, if you're reading this off your home weight/bf% scale, IT'S WRONG. The only way to accurately measure your BF% is to get it professionally done.

Secondly, by first week, do you mean first week on the stack or your exercise/diet regime?

which is why i think 292 is wrong lol and im 6'5. And in feb-march i got my BF done in my PE class in gr 12 by my PE teacher (she pinched and did all that stuff thats to be done) so i know its around there, might be 21-22% i forget LOL

and i mean by the first week i mean of stack. been doing exercise for a while now

vafanculo 09-21-2011 11:32 PM

sorry for the spamming questions..i know the doses to take for EC, but what about the aspirin? looking at hotnfit, it doesnt seem to mention the A at all (well it does, but briefly).. is it better to use fish oil then?

willystyle 09-21-2011 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vafanculo (Post 7586388)
sorry for the spamming questions..i know the doses to take for EC, but what about the aspirin? looking at hotnfit, it doesnt seem to mention the A at all (well it does, but briefly).. is it better to use fish oil then?

Drop the Aspirin and supplement with fish oil and multi-vitamin.

sonick 09-22-2011 07:11 AM

^ that


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