that story sounds so fucking sad geez

Yes, they do work. If they hadn't, it's either you had the knock-off version (which is plenty because those things are expensive) or your sickness has nothing to do with consuming it. No, barely anybody use them straight up as medicine for sickness anymore, because they're expensive, not widely available and there's better, cheaper and more widely available alternatives.

I believe these guys still in business because they mostly sell it for other purposes now, for example mixing bear bile with wine and stuffs like that. My dad has people bring these kind of wine over occasionally as gift even though he doesn't drink.

Also, some uneducated comments in here. Animal cruelty isn't unique to any race or any country. You must be living under a cave to believe that. Third world country? Please. Propaganda BS. Maybe if you start cover some NA news, you could realize that some people around you aint that much better than some tching-tchao dude across the oceans. And posting a nuclear explosion picture is just retarded.

Anyone in this thread needs to read this.

Bile bear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

from wikipedia

7002 bears in farms and china rescue centers have managed to save 300....

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/ima...tizen_cane.gif

And were do you live.

Can anyone verify this story. No doubt about the cruelty about the bears, but the killing of cub and the suicide? Sounds over the top.

Statistically, it was bound to happen. That bear could've been smarter than the average bear boo boo.

There are severe acts of cruelty that occur at many North American farms and slaughter houses, I'm not defending China in any way. but I'm not blind to reality.

Also, live stock are not mindless drowns that are aware of only their need to grow and be eaten, having spent my entire life on farms I know that.

What's smarter? Beef, lamb or pork?

i'm not sure which is worse, the video of the dog trade in china or this story... either way, sad to hear

my heart just broke a little :(

when it happens in China, everything will be magnified 100 times worse.

sad story but its def not suicide lol. animals act on instinct, they are not self aware, therefore is not capable of suicide. (at least not bears) probly just went crazy from being in that cage for years.

Veal?

so much ignorance in this thread. This practice has been around for ages yet people act like it's the end of the world. Animal cruelty like already mentioned isn't specific to race or people..although the Chinese do find that odd animal parts from exotic animals/near extinction species as highly-sought after although it's has little to no medicinal effects but rather for social status.

Do I believe in traditional Chinese medicine? No. But do I believe that it's 100% bogus and all the 'healing effects' are simply placebo? No.

think this is fake?

http://www.asiaone.com/static/multim...mages/pic3.jpg

http://www.daemonsmovies.com/wp-cont...e-photo-02.jpg

Yogi Bear for those too young to remember.

Since when did they make 3D Yogi Bear??
man, I'm so oldschool...

damn that's sad

Where* do I live? In south surrey... Not likely place for bears.
I'm talking about that old lady that got mauled by a bear and they shot 4 of them to figure out which one did it.
I'm also talking about the people that move out further into the mountains to have a nice view or sweet cabin while intruding into the bears' territory.
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It's one thing to move to prince George and see bears in your yard, it's another to live in westwood plateau and see a bear going thrOugh your garbage, as soon as a bear is into garbage cans etc in a residential area like that you either move it or you have to kill it
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My only comment on this is that western medicine often treats the symptoms, whereas traditional medicine often treats the underlying problem.

But I trust science a lot more than TCM!

I didn't say that the Bears being caged were fake, I'm just pointing it out that the whole "suicide" thing is probably fake.

It's an Animal, it's main instinct is survival. This isn't some Asian drama.

Just saying.

It used to be a place for bears.