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Nightwalker 08-16-2011 05:23 PM

So how long until OP is evicted? Can't be too long.

dinosaur 08-16-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7547318)
BC has a rule where landlords are allowed to do an inspection a few times a year, yet that is mainly to prevent grow-ops and shouldn't be abused to keep your investment pristine.

Actually, the "BC" rule you so wrongly quote, is just that.

The RTA states that a landlord can enter once every 30 days.

It drives me insane when tenants quote the RTA without knowing what they are talking about. I had one at my door yesterday quoting it as it were the fucking bible and I was an atheist.

here's a tip...as Gridlock says...stay off my fucking radar and I'll play nice. You are not my customer and therefore, I will not treat you as one. This is my home too and I deserve the same respect. If you have a problem, I will be more that happy to do what I can to help you...but don't treat me like shit or act like you have made my life better by you living here.

taylor192 08-17-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gridlock (Post 7547617)
BTW...this is just going to make your head spin...that logic above is the same reason I like attractive people. They look nicer in the halls for new tenants ;)

LOL!

We're only going in circles cause you fall back to the "fuck off" attitude, so without going in circles, what would you do with someone who has a "meh" attitude. As in someone who is not disrespectful, doesn't quote the law, yet ultimately doesn't agree with you and does contrary to what you asked.

I worry that a lot of amateur landlords would still place this "meh" person on their "fuck off" list, when really their list should be called "didn't kiss my ass" list. :p

taylor192 08-17-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 7547858)
Actually, the "BC" rule you so wrongly quote, is just that.

The RTA states that a landlord can enter once every 30 days.

Giove me a fucking break. The RTA is "BC" rule, and "a few times a year" vs "once every 30 days" are close enough for you not to be an ass and nit pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 7547858)
You are not my customer and therefore, I will not treat you as one.

WRONG. I am your customer, and I can stop paying you anytime I want, leave, fuck you over, and you have little recourse without wasting time/money in court. That said, my parents have run businesses and taught me that the customer is not always right, yet you always treat a customer professionally even when they are wrong.

To get back on topic: it is unprofessional to ask someone to remove an unsightly trailer, and very unprofessional to illegally enter someone's apartment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 7547858)
This is my home too and I deserve the same respect.

It stopped being your home the day you decide to rent it out. Its a rental property, and it will be treated as such.

taylor192 08-17-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7547669)
ZOMG, I've found Skinnypup's second account! :eek: lol

LOL I wish, he's banned me before :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7547669)
good relationship between a tenant and owner, respect goes a loooong way.

Kinda. As a tenant I just want to be left alone, and as the landlords here have pointed out, they don't want to hear from me.

Your example is one of the tenant or landlord asking a favour, and the other agreeing to be nice. I've now point blank asked Gridlock what happens if one side doesn't agree and just goes "meh" without being disrespectful or quoting rules/laws. Based on personal experience a "meh" response is almost always taken as a "fuck off" attitude, cause whenever someone asks they usually have an expectation that the other person will oblige - thus why Gridlock keeps defaulting back to the "fuck off" attitude and won't consider something inbetween "respect" and "fuck off".

taylor192 08-17-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gridlock (Post 7547612)
If having some big truck parked out front causes a quality tenant to pass and go to one of the several other buildings in the neighborhood going after the same types of people, then it just became a small issue.

Sorry, I know people hate my multiple posting style, yet I wanted to put this one in its own post.

I would think as a landlord you want the opposite. If a tenant would pass on your place cause of a truck parked out front, how picky are they going to be to deal with?

My buddy just moved into a place and he's ridiculously picky, having the landlord come in to fix all sorts of minor cosmetic things. My buddy knows he can get away with this cause his unit sat for a few months before being rented, and the unit next door still sits empty.

I told my buddy that I wouldn't want him as a tenant - and he's exactly the type that would care if a big truck was blocking his view.

Greenstoner 08-17-2011 09:23 AM

"Respect" is the key words to be a succesful tenant and landlord.

"Respect" also goes a long way for career and life.


my 2 cents

Phil@rise 08-17-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7547318)

The pool does minimal damage. The OP can buy some fresh sod replace any dead grass, and most shared utility rentals have a clause to adjust prices based on usage. If the pool was using more, bill the tenant more.

The pool does extensive damage when someone breaches the top or sides of it. The whole downstairs suite will be subject to major flood damage perhaps this is an underlying issue the landlord has with it. does the OP have house insurance to cover such damages? If so then then the landlord should have no issue with it so long as the OP returns the yard to the same or similar state to which it was rented in the first place.

7seven 08-17-2011 10:27 AM

I know if I was a landlord, I would be pissed if a tenant installed a pool without my approval. I'm not positive about the BC laws, but the property I own in Hollywood has a pool and there are very strict laws regarding fencing off and enclosures of a pool. If the pool does not meet specific minimum standards it opens the property owner up to a number of liability issues.

Perhaps the OP's landlord might be concerned with that issue?

SpuGen 08-17-2011 10:40 AM

I feel sorry for Taylor192's landlord.

That poor bastard.

gdoh 08-17-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 7548432)
I know if I was a landlord, I would be pissed if a tenant installed a pool without my approval. I'm not positive about the BC laws, but the property I own in Hollywood has a pool and there are very strict laws regarding fencing off and enclosures of a pool. If the pool does not meet specific minimum standards it opens the property owner up to a number of liability issues.

Perhaps the OP's landlord might be concerned with that issue?

there are pics on page 2 and the pool covered up, but the thing that would piss me off about a pool would be the dead grass underneath

7seven 08-17-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gdoh (Post 7548447)
there are pics on page 2 and the pool covered up, but the thing that would piss me off about a pool would be the dead grass underneath

Speaking strictly from my experience with California laws, that cover alone is not sufficient, nor is the yard his pool in properly enclosed to keep people out for that pool to be legal, I had to build a minimum fence of 5ft all around the entire property to cover any liability issues. I wonder what the BC laws are regarding pools?

dinosaur 08-17-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7548330)

WRONG. I am your customer, and I can stop paying you anytime I want, leave, fuck you over, and you have little recourse without wasting time/money in court. That said, my parents have run businesses and taught me that the customer is not always right, yet you always treat a customer professionally even when they are wrong.

Dude, you are not my customer. I did not invite you into my home. I manage the apt. building and you signed a contract to live here and it is my job to make sure you don't fuck up and abide by the contract.

If you do fuck up by "stop paying anytime you want" or "fuck me over" the only cost to me is $50.00 to watch you cry.

As for the OP and the pool situation. The landlord can go after him for damage . Fucking up the lawn and potentially causing permanent damage is not considered "normal wear and tear". Not only is there the potential to lose the damage deposit, but should the damage exceed the amount of the damage deposit, he may have to pay more.

Regarding the 5th wheel...the landlord may want to research the city by-law. Some cities do not allow vehicles over a certain size to be parked on a residential property or to be visible from the street. This may be the only recourse regarding the 5th wheel.

I don't go out of my way to create problems with my tenants (I have over 90 tenants spread between 5 buildings and a townhouse) and I am probably the type of manager that you would like to rent from...that being said, as I tell all my tenants "I can be your friend or your enemy...you choose". It works and for the most part, all are off my radar. I have helped my tenants move things, lent out money for laundry, given people a rides, had people in for coffee, feed tenants' pets when they are away, let people borrow tools, given people jumps, etc.... I am not a prick, but put yourself on the radar and I'll gladly pay 50 bucks to give you a bad week.

Lomac 08-17-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 7548454)
Speaking strictly from my experience with California laws, that cover alone is not sufficient, nor is the yard his pool in properly enclosed to keep people out for that pool to be legal, I had to build a minimum fence of 5ft all around the entire property to cover any liability issues. I wonder what the BC laws are regarding pools?

Theyre much the same here.
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taylor192 08-17-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 7548467)
Dude, you are not my customer. I did not invite you into my home. I manage the apt. building and you signed a contract to live here and it is my job to make sure you don't fuck up and abide by the contract.

When I sign a contract I am someone's customer. I may not be your customer if you're a property manager, yet I am the customer of whomever is on that contract.

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Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 7548467)
Fucking up the lawn and potentially causing permanent damage is not considered "normal wear and tear".

Perhaps you missed my post about fresh sod. Its $5 for 10 sqft, so for < $100 he could replace any dead grass. You make it sound like its some expensive impossible task. Its fucking grass. :eek::rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 7548467)
This may be the only recourse regarding the 5th wheel.

There's another recourse: let it go and mind your own business.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinosaur (Post 7548467)
I don't go out of my way to create problems with my tenants

Like with Gridlock, this sums it up as I doubt you or Gridlock with give the OP this much grief over the trailer and pool.

taylor192 08-17-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil@rise (Post 7548410)
The pool does extensive damage when someone breaches the top or sides of it. The whole downstairs suite will be subject to major flood damage perhaps this is an underlying issue the landlord has with it. does the OP have house insurance to cover such damages? If so then then the landlord should have no issue with it so long as the OP returns the yard to the same or similar state to which it was rented in the first place.

My last landlord required proof of insurance as part of the lease. It wouldn't be hard for this landlord to request it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 7548432)
I know if I was a landlord, I would be pissed if a tenant installed a pool without my approval. I'm not positive about the BC laws, but the property I own in Hollywood has a pool and there are very strict laws regarding fencing off and enclosures of a pool. If the pool does not meet specific minimum standards it opens the property owner up to a number of liability issues.

Perhaps the OP's landlord might be concerned with that issue?

The landlord might be concerned, yet all they'd have to do is lookup the bylaw:

Quote:

Swimming pools greater than 450 mm deep and with a surface area more than 14 m2
The OP would have to confirm, this pool might be more than 150 sq ft.

white_guilt 08-17-2011 02:39 PM

Wow OP, grow a pair. The fact that you did not read him the riot act after he came into your home and tampered with your shit, blows my fucking mind.

dinosaur 08-17-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7548600)
When I sign a contract I am someone's customer. I may not be your customer if you're a property manager, yet I am the customer of whomever is on that contract.


Perhaps you missed my post about fresh sod. Its $5 for 10 sqft, so for < $100 he could replace any dead grass. You make it sound like its some expensive impossible task. Its fucking grass. :eek::rolleyes:


There's another recourse: let it go and mind your own business.


Like with Gridlock, this sums it up as I doubt you or Gridlock with give the OP this much grief over the trailer and pool.

oops..posted on the ladies acct.

Gridlock 08-17-2011 06:00 PM

1. The pool would have been gone before it was even full of water. That thing breaks and my house, your suite is flooded. Not happening. At all. The trailer alone I'd probably not have an issue with.

2. The whole customer thing. I thought about this today.

You are a customer in that we have a business relationship that I provide a house and you pay my mortgage.

BUT...to truly feel like a customer, you need to be in a position where I need more than 1 customer per house per year.

I thought about this today, and really the relationship is more analogous to that of an employee, than a customer. Think about it...someone else(or a bank) nominates me to be in charge, your only true exit is to quit...it just goes on and on.

And on your asking about the 'meh' attitude.

I'd love a meh attitude. I think it works for awhile, but you get tired of the disrespect after awhile, and it comes back to the age old question: is this a hill you want to die on? I think most people are respectful, as long as you are respectful and have legit requests.

I mean, I'm still thrown off by your saying, "I never would have complied with not parking out front". Like, what are you going to do, specifically park there to piss me off?

Gridlock 08-17-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7548338)
Sorry, I know people hate my multiple posting style, yet I wanted to put this one in its own post.

I would think as a landlord you want the opposite. If a tenant would pass on your place cause of a truck parked out front, how picky are they going to be to deal with?

My buddy just moved into a place and he's ridiculously picky, having the landlord come in to fix all sorts of minor cosmetic things. My buddy knows he can get away with this cause his unit sat for a few months before being rented, and the unit next door still sits empty.

I told my buddy that I wouldn't want him as a tenant - and he's exactly the type that would care if a big truck was blocking his view.

And the landlord is happyt to comply...for now. Once that other unit is rented, try getting him to come and touch up the paint. OH! And once his stock goes down a little bit, wait for the attitude change.

As I said, just don't ever need a favor from the guy ;)

taylor192 08-18-2011 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gridlock (Post 7548901)
I mean, I'm still thrown off by your saying, "I never would have complied with not parking out front". Like, what are you going to do, specifically park there to piss me off?

I'd never do anything to specifically piss off my landlord, I've been a landlord and believe in karma.

I just would've politely said 'no', I'd rather not walk around the block.

I still don't understand why you default to the "fuck off" attitude. Not everyone that doesn't comply with your every wish for a good reason is out to get you :p :D

taylor192 08-18-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gridlock (Post 7548901)
BUT...to truly feel like a customer, you need to be in a position where I need more than 1 customer per house per year.

I thought about this today, and really the relationship is more analogous to that of an employee, than a customer. Think about it...someone else(or a bank) nominates me to be in charge, your only true exit is to quit...it just goes on and on.

I'd say you're more like a waitress than employer. After I order my food I'm obliged to pay, yet unless the service is good I can take my business elsewhere next time.

I will agree its like being an employee for many. It takes effort to move (find a new job) and most people are lazy. For the few of us that know our worth, we know a little bit of effort will find a better deal. Especially lately, my last 3 friends that have moved have had their pick of places and negotiated rent down.

Gridlock 08-18-2011 09:32 PM

And round and round we go ;) I like the waitER part. Dinosaur is the girlfriend and I'm the boyfriend in our building management duo.

I think we finally agree on a part...my neighborhood(New West) happens to be on a general upswing in terms of rent money, quality of tenant and so on. There are months where we show to a few more people, and then months like we just had where we had 2 units rented based on pictures of what the apartments look like when they are renovated. I hadn't even picked up a hammer and we had damage deposits cashed.

And that affects my attitude for sure.

I had a tenant complain the other day that they received a rent increase. They happen to be in one of the renovated units.

If they decide to move, I'll miss them, they are nice, but I'm not going to throw myself at their feet. Their apartment is going to show fantastic, as the work is all done. I know every screw and nail in the place, so I can nitpick the inspection on the way out :) And realistically, we'll probably rent it for more than the increase was for.

If I didn't feel confident in that, its a different story.

Death2Theft 08-18-2011 10:32 PM

Hmm I wonder if requiring renters have insurance is a worthwhile step. At least you wont be liable for damage to their property if a leak or something happens?


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