All you have to remember is that my program is harder than whatever you're taking. And if I can do what i'm doing, there's no reason you can't do well at SFU.

If I were you, I'd start taking a look at which major you want to get into after first year. Knowing now means you get 1.5 years to make damn sure that's what you want and it gives you extra time to get into contact with someone in the field who can have a brief chat with you about career directions. Might sound too soon, but if my friend knew 3 years ago that there weren't many jobs in Civil, he wouldn't have stayed in it.

Great that you're doing well at physics, chem, and math! Perhaps you could spend some time over the summer looking over some first year materials if you have nothing better to do as it's quite different from HS. For myself, first year Sciences was absolutely brutal~

civil engineering? :fuckthatshit: go electrical or petroleum, that is where they get the mooolaaa

you should only go to engineering if you really like the subject, otherwise you will be depressed all the time because of 6 courses per term, 5 days of classes per week, shit load of homework (can't bs your way out), and everything is math, and do extremely bad with a 2-3 gpa

The math I am talking about are real vs imaginary numbers, discrete vs analog signals, fourier transforms, divergence, programing 1000 line codes of program, classical physics vs quantum physics and basically transforming functions into different domains and then calculate the properties of functions etc.

I have degrees in law, commerce and engineering, and IMO engineering is easily the hardest degree. I remember my 4th year at UBC engineering I had to design and draw a piece of IC with over 1000 transistors individually (the computer chips found in your pc's). Even just connecting all the wires took more than 12 hours non-stop no breaks in front of the computer.

Well this sucks..my physics teacher didn't include 2 labs and some homework into our final grade, so that lowered my mark by 3.5%...(I blame my lab partner lol we didn't get to choose our partners).

Anyways,

My average using chemistry, physics, math and english is 87.5%
& using chemistry, calculus, math and english is 90.25%

Anyways, do you think I can still get in engineering with 87.5% or should I play it safe with computing science? (calculus can be used for computing)

Engineering really does sound hard by the way you describe it..like I said I'll probably use computing or engineering as a starting point, but will definitely try and get myself out if I don't like it.

I really appreciate the advice guys...super stressed about what to apply for (and if I'll get in).

my personal experience is go with the one you have interest in

at the end of the day and when you graduate you would want to be seen by the hiring employers as someone who has knowledge into the industry you are applying in, experience from coops or internships, and activities done related to the work that is being applied for


if you go into a major just by the degree of its difficulty then it could backfire on u in the long run. you can get decent grades but if u have nothing to show your employers that you could act equally as great in a realistic situation, then u will have a hard time fighting for any type of position.


class difficulty and grades only count for part of your success

your experience, connection, and interest matters as well



this is just based on my experience as a business student it could translate differently for different faculties/majors...

U can definately get in with 87.5. Engineering take in a lot of people every year because every year they kick a lot of people out from first and second years. With that said, it is definately possible to get 80+ average in even engineering physics (the hardest specizliation). So you should still continue to maintain your 80+ average after you get in, and don't let the hard materials excuse you from that. Not sure what you mean about CompSci but it is all programing codes in there.

First year is definately no problem because 1) lots of dumbasses scale the curve for you, and 2) lots of online materials can help you self-study (cheat sheets, possible exam questions, notes, etc.)

Second year is still ok, and the materials are still pretty basic because its your 'first' year in your specilization, so 1) and 2) from above still applies. But this year is where they introduce all the new concepts, so its usually the year with the lowest grades.

Third year gets easier because u get used to it, even when the materials get much harder.

Fourth year was a joke for me. All I did was club or house party every weekend because profs are really chill and I already sent my transcripts to grad schools. The classes are really small as well, fav year for me.

Don't get stressed because the only degrees worth getting a bachelor for is Commerce or Engineering. Second is Science (for doctor also) and third is Arts (but only if go grad schools like law)

I'm actually reporting my first term marks for a conditional offer. Do you still think an 87.5% is good enough for early admission engineering? I'm using computing science as my second choice because it's in the same faculty as engineering. I have no interest in programming, but I'm assuming it may be much easier doing a transfer since engineering and computing is in the same faculty.

I have also considered commerce, but all the hype about needing super high averages, and a good supplemental scared me away. I do have around 180-200 hours of service hours, but they're pretty much useless crap that I can't expand on like helping my teachers clean their classroom or do filing in the school office. I was only involved in sports from grade eight to ten, so I don't have much to say in that area either.

Fuck, I have 6 days to make a decision before the self-reporting and broad-based application opens for SFU. Gotta think hard..

If you like commerce more over computer science/engineering then I suggest you to apply for it, or else you might regret it. My friends in sciences/arts are now trying to transfer into business. I was afraid of applying for business like you because of how everyone says how difficult it is to get in, etc, saying I don't have the marks/extracurricular activities. But I didn't listen to them and I got into SFU this year with a 81-82% or a 86-87% (because I don't know if they counted my on-line mark) with not much extracurricular activities. I had nothing to lose, because my second choice was arts, so I guess you're in a different position than me. (do you know if you can get into your second choice?) Good luck with applications!

I agree..my friend took bio ap and I think he has better study habits etc than me. The problem is averages are usually lower in ap classes.. which discourages students to take ap unless they already took the regular class the year before/summer school.

What year did you apply in?

Last school year. I just finished my first semester at SFU.

Computer Science and Electrical Engineering share almost the same first + second year courses, so you can make the switch no problem. I am not too sure about the other engineering specilizations though.

For the Commerce supplemental document, I suggest you not to write it yourself, as in, don't write it without researching online materials on how to write a professional one. Hell you can probably pay around $100 to a good website and have it professionally done. I remember back then I spent more time researching on how to write my Law School personal statement than actually writing it (keywords they look for, samples, etc.). Some may call it not-legit, but thats how you get ahead in life, and I think its perfectly ok.

Okay, so I officially made my decision and just self-reported my grades today!

Did engineering as first choice (87.5%), and computing as second choice (90.25%).

Wish me luck guys!!

my academic avg right now excluding french is 92.5 % is that good enough to get into ubc/sfu engineering or sciences?

after reading this tread, i finally realized that i gota work hard to get in to uni, applying for arts and social sciences..averaging a 77 right now. Anyone got an idea of what mark would get me in for sure? the sfu average is 82

^look for at least 86 to be guaranteed a safe haven at ubc or sfu. From my experience, both schools are more or less equally as competitive when it comes to university entrance. The only thing that separates ubc from sfu are its optional supplementary applications it asks of its students in certain faculties. Remember that when you apply, its VERY critical to do the supplementary well, because with an 83 or 84 average, it could be your best bet to beating another guy with an 86 average. The idea that UBC is harder school to be accepted to is just a mere illusion. by the way, I think I may know who you are, hit me up with a PM, i should be able to give you some tips.

Hello everyone,

I'm also thinking about applying to SFU for the fall 2012 term.
At the moment my first term high-school average consisting of English, Economics, Chemistry, and Biology is 87.5%.

I'm trying to apply to Sciences (Biomedical Physiology) as my first choice and to Arts (Criminology). Do you guys think my averages are high enough to get into either of these? From what I've heard, getting into Sciences requires a pretty high average.

Also, are there any supplemental applications/interviews I should be expecting for either one of these programs?

Thanks

^ universities accept electives such as Economics to be counted towards average now?

don't take advice from this guy. It's terrible.

Yes, electives such as Law 12, Economics 12, and Social Justice 12 can be used for 2012 admission requirements.
Posted via RS Mobile

UBC now requires a mandatory supplemental (personal profile) which is part of the application process. You have to finish that step before moving on and paying the fee.

----

Hey ForeverYours. To get into science for SFU, 87.5% IMO is very borderline especially for this year. Are you applying for early admission or just regular admission? If your first term grades average to an 87.5%, and you think you can get higher during 2nd term, I say just apply in April (or whenever they open). I've submitted my marks for early admission engineering and deeply regret as it's borderline, and I guarantee my 2nd term average will be 2-4% higher. Good luck, and maybe I'll see you in the fall. ;)

Hey Fcukedd. I think I'm planning to apply for the regular admission.
Are there specific deadlines for early admission/regular admission? If I apply for early admission would I be still considered for regular admission if I don't get acceptance in the beginning?

I might be switching out of Biomedical Physiology for Criminology as 1st choice though, still haven't made my mind up completely with what I want to do.
There's a good chance that you will be getting in, good luck and hopefully I'll see you there as well :)

Sorry for bumping the thread, i was wondering if its worth applying to sfu or ubc arts with a 84 - 85% average.

Also someone mentioned above that electives counted for admission. I thought it was just English 12 and the 3 gr.12 courses for arts.

I may be wrong or out of touch with this process, but I think sfu arts admission is really low. Because to transfer from Langara to SFU, you only need a GPA of 2.5 even though it states (3.0, it's based on supply and demand). So 84% is too high for arts.

^SFU you should be able to get in, I would risk applying with those averages since you're going into arts.

As for electives, it's courses like Comparative Civilizations 12 and MAYBE accounting (there may have been choir, but i'm recollecting from 5 years ago). It's better to have math 11 or math 12 so that you do not need to take FAL/FAN.