Originally Posted by UFO (Post 7582939)

You sound like you are in a profession where overseas demand is huge, and you can make a lot more overseas than here. Not every profession has this potential. What will happen to your income when you come back here to work because you want to spend the time with your family?

I really respect your approach to this. For me, what is the point of getting married and starting a family, if you cannot be there to enjoy and grow with the family. I know you are working your tail off to provide the best for your family and to make things easier for them, but my take is that contributions to family run much deeper than just money. It sounds like you are feeling that too.

Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7583042)

80K is not an unreasonable total income for someone in their late 20s. I would say that 60K is an average salary for your typical university-educated person in their late 20s. Most people I know have side gigs (whether it's part-time businesses or jobs and/or investments) which pushes up their incomes by another 10-20K a year.

Originally Posted by UFO (Post 7582939)

You sound like you are in a profession where overseas demand is huge, and you can make a lot more overseas than here. Not every profession has this potential.

Originally Posted by darkfroggy (Post 7583222)

Parent's House

Free 2 bedrooms.
Free utilities.
Free car + gas.
Free high-speed internet.
Free flatscreen TV + HD channels.
Free food prepared daily.

(Okay, it's not free if you pay, but you get my point).

vs.

Renting your Own Place

Full-time university student working 5 days/week splitting a cramped apartment/basement eating take-out food everyday. Have to use neighbour's unsecured wi-fi because the landlord is too cheap to include it, and only available channels are CBC and some random stuff. Roommate's classes start at 1:00PM, while yours starts at 9:00AM.

Fuck that "independent" shit, why would you ever move out? You must enjoy shelling $1000+ to live like some second-worlder. At least when I pay my parents, shit stays within the family.

Rep your parent's basement, bros. :fuckyea:

My mom still washes the dishes and does the laundry, and she calls home from work to wake me up every morning. :alone::alone::alone::okay:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7583233)

How old are you?

I have a cousin who's story sounds just like yours, lives at home, mom does his laundry, feeds him, etc...

The only catch is that he's 35 years old and isn't a student (has a job and money).

I find him pretty pathetic.

Originally Posted by darkfroggy (Post 7583236)

22 and I still need my mom to tell me to clean my own room.

:alone:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7583233)

How old are you?

I have a cousin who's story sounds just like yours, lives at home, mom does his laundry, feeds him, etc...

The only catch is that he's 35 years old and isn't a student (has a job and money).

I find him pretty pathetic.

Originally Posted by Culverin (Post 7583248)

Only if you can't find your stuff do you have a real problem.

Originally Posted by Anjew (Post 7583250)

in ancient times that was norm for mothers to take care of their sons in that way their entire lives... Female lions hunt food for the entire pack. whats the difference between a man in his 20's and a man in his 30's.... would the former get smarter? more mature? (not necessarily).

i had a job and made money in my 20's but did i rush to move out "show" that i'm mature and independent? no.... that's the trend that Asian families have brought over and it i think is positive. (obviously a bad side effect of over protective moms, but whatever right?)

Originally Posted by darkfroggy (Post 7583222)

Parent's House

Free 2 bedrooms.
Free utilities.
Free car + gas.
Free high-speed internet.
Free flatscreen TV + HD channels.
Free food prepared daily.

(Okay, it's not free if you pay, but you get my point).

vs.

Renting your Own Place

Full-time university student working 5 days/week splitting a cramped apartment/basement eating take-out food everyday. Have to use neighbour's unsecured wi-fi because the landlord is too cheap to include it, and only available channels are CBC and some random stuff. Roommate's classes start at 1:00PM, while yours starts at 9:00AM.

Fuck that "independent" shit, why would you ever move out? You must enjoy shelling $1000+ to live like some second-worlder. At least when I pay my parents, shit stays within the family.

Rep your parent's basement, bros. :fuckyea:



My mom still washes the dishes and does the laundry, and she calls home from work to wake me up every morning. :alone::alone::alone::okay:

Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7583155)

30% of Canadians get a university degree, 40% some form of post-secondary degree, and 60% have some form of post secondary education.

~10% of Canadians make more than $80K/yr, with most of that concentrated in the 40-60yo age group.

That works out to be about 2% of all 25-29yos with a university education make > $80K, which would be not be very reasonable at all.

All data is available on StatsCan.

Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7583598)

I can't argue the statistics, but I find it hard to believe that some of my friends and colleagues comprise 2% of earners in my approximate age bracket. I would imagine that most people here have friends who are professionals - lawyers, health care practitioners, engineers, etc. and the numbers of these people would surely comprise more than 2%.

I don't know about you, but every time I log onto my LinkedIn account, everybody is a bloody manager, executive, or sales leader of some sort. Even if half are "pseudo-managers" and are making in the upper 40s, the other half have to be in the high 60s to low 70s.



Well, all the power to you if you settled down with a humble Chinese woman. For the rest of us who have to compete for the ever-shrinking pool of decent women, living in the parents' basement ain't going to cut it.

Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7583598)

I can't argue the statistics, but I find it hard to believe that some of my friends and colleagues comprise 2% of earners in my approximate age bracket. I would imagine that most people here have friends who are professionals - lawyers, health care practitioners, engineers, etc. and the numbers of these people would surely comprise more than 2%.

I don't know about you, but every time I log onto my LinkedIn account, everybody is a bloody manager, executive, or sales leader of some sort. Even if half are "pseudo-managers" and are making in the upper 40s, the other half have to be in the high 60s to low 70s.

Originally Posted by azndude69 (Post 7583707)

for every successful friend I have, I can name like 5 other guys that I went to highschool/university with that aren't as successful.

Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7583755)

Part of the skewed stats on your part may be because of where we live. Vancouver has a high concentration of home offices, law firms and health care units. Sure, a large portion of Canada also has this (Toronto, Montreal, etc) but the majority of the country isn't as rich as you may think. The Maritimes are dirt poor because there are few job opportunities out there that can fetch you large sums of money. The Prairies are also relatively poor since farming is the main form of living out there. Hell, even North of Chilliwack there are few ways of making a decent living. Leave the surrounding areas of the major metropolitan areas of Canada (and subsequently end up with the majority of Canada's population) and you'll find that the people out there make relatively very little.

Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7583042)

I'll chime in with my experience here.

You won't get into a detached home with that salary, but if you aren't having a family, why would you? I have a 2 bedroom/2 bath condo (I've rented out the other bedroom) and I don't need any more space. But, having grown up in a detached home, I understand its appeal. There are a lot of downsides to condo living - inconsiderate neighbours, special assessments for things that break or get damaged (they will, trust me), lack of customization, etc. In my opinion, when you buy a condo, you don't actually own land - you just pay for the right to live in several hundred square feet of air in the sky (that has a legal title.)

If I were to do it all over again, I would strongly have considered renting. Unless you're chained to your job, renting gives you flexibility. Moreover, renters, at least in this province, have tremendous rights. There's the lifestyle angle as well: unless you're one of those anti-social types, you're going to want to spend your money on things like nights out, clothes, toys, etc. Once you have a mortgage, you'll have to sacrifce a lot (or somehow, make more money to have it both ways.)



80K is not an unreasonable total income for someone in their late 20s. I would say that 60K is an average salary for your typical university-educated person in their late 20s. Most people I know have side gigs (whether it's part-time businesses or jobs and/or investments) which pushes up their incomes by another 10-20K a year.

Originally Posted by wouwou (Post 7583057)

Will I do it again? fuck no. Do I regret taking up that job? not really either. My advice is you are young & single: work your ass off, leave your comfort zone, explore and take shit load of risks. Once you are in a relationship/have a family, good luck doing that.

Originally Posted by HonestTea (Post 7583180)

I'm curious, which professions have the most demand overseas?

Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7583755)

Part of the skewed stats on your part may be because of where we live. Vancouver has a high concentration of home offices, law firms and health care units. Sure, a large portion of Canada also has this (Toronto, Montreal, etc) but the majority of the country isn't as rich as you may think. The Maritimes are dirt poor because there are few job opportunities out there that can fetch you large sums of money. The Prairies are also relatively poor since farming is the main form of living out there. Hell, even North of Chilliwack there are few ways of making a decent living. Leave the surrounding areas of the major metropolitan areas of Canada (and subsequently end up with the majority of Canada's population) and you'll find that the people out there make relatively very little.