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its so ironic to listen to all these fucking hypocrites here. Most of the Hongers here in vancouver are also IMMIGRANTS, do you see a discrimination in our system like in HK? We're in the 21st century, that is an archaic system of the past... hope the government's appeal gets shot down. |
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Sounds like the maids want to be treated fairly even though their relaxed immigration process makes it incredibly easy to get in the country and stay. Sounds like the people in Hong Kong don't want to treat their maids like humans and also don't want them to populate HK with their families. That sounds like a douchey move on the part of HK, really but I sort of understand. Unlike here in Canada where there are many, many different cultures, HK really only has one large dominant one and want to keep their individuality and identity. I get it. The solution? DON'T HAVE A FUCKING MAID, YOU LAZY HONGERS. Dammit, if Chinese people could be bothered to do their own laundry and make their own dinner, then this wouldn't be an issue. Filipino maids in HK are treated little better than slaves. Seriously, this is damned near slavery in the 21st century. Just don't have a maid and maybe more Chinese kids will be less freakin' wimpy if they had to toast their own Pop Tarts. |
^^ they could easily hire chinese housekeepers but they're too cheap/prejudiced to do so and HK really isnt dominant to chinese though... its filled with brits/indians/pakis/south east asians/mainlanders (although chinese hongers like to think they're better than them) all of whom are treated like shit by hongers (except the whites although they have their racist terms for them anyway) as you can tell i dont really like the bigoted/racist hongers which seem to make up a major portion of them which is why i havent been back to hk in ages even though we have a place there if the govt wanted they should just legislate it so that its next to impossible to enter the country to work as a maid/butler but then the hongers would be against that too because they dont want to hire hongers to work as housekeepers ended up being a bit of a rant sorry |
HK is hardly "filled with" other races. The population is 95% chinese. The next largest ethnicity is actually Filipino at 2%. "westerners" only make up 0.5% of the population. Also hk does need immigrants. The birth rate is less than half what it needs to be to sustain a productively aged population. Eventually, the majority of the population will be useless seniors. Posted via RS Mobile |
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but this made me lol |
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Immigration is for people finding a better life elsewhere. Do you believe that there are not currently chinese/african/japanese/russian/australian/american in Vancouver that are taking away jobs/social welfare/health care/ect.? Vancouver and North America was built on immigration and although not necessarily their right, they have earned the ability to become residents because the fact they have a job and contribute to society. Why do your ancestors deserve the RIGHT to have you reside here? With such ignorant comments, I wish natural selection would work quicker. |
this thread made me realize RS'ers really like to give verdicts on shit they know absolutely nothing about |
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Will the people in Hong Kong give these maids a chance. In their minds, home grown product will always triumph over the minority. |
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There are barely any daycare centres in HK and there aren't many children facilities for parents. The majority of the HK population live on less than $20,000HKD ($2,700CDN) per month dual income with a huge cost going to rent. Unlike in Canada with many stay at home months with what is it, 10 months maternity leave, people in HK don't have that luxury. If they were to send their kids to daycare, it would be more than $3,500HKD (the cost of hiring a FDH) so it's not economical for them to do so. Not only that, by employing a FDH it helps provide jobs for those who come to HK for more money. These FDH aren't forced into slavery, they come here on their own will and come because its MORE money for them. It allows them to provide for their homes back in their country of origin. |
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We are better off if the Filipino maids could never come to HK. At least our chicks could stay in the kitchen, it makes our living much more easy. Also it keeps Central clean on Sunday |
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To be honest, what happens to Filipino maids has no real effect on me but seeing and hearing how they're treated in Hong Kong, I can't help but enjoy seeing their employers all pissed. |
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It really depends. My aunt in HK have a Filipina maid and I think we treated her pretty well. When my aunts comes back to Van she usually brings the maid with her and go on vacation and stuff. We trested her pretty nice as well. I think my aunt even borrow some money to the maid to help her build a house or something. But then again she been working like 10+ years. |
It seems that the concern is that the maids are not going through the proper immigration channel to apply for residency and the effect it could have on existing social programs. I say this next paragraph based on the assumption that because HK housing is expensive, it may be unlikely they could afford to take care of themselves and their family if they brought them over. Most likely they, children, or husband do not have any recognized education, so they could not get very good jobs thus leading to an influx of claims for social supports and possibly depress the wages in jobs they can get (as they would be willing to work for less possibly). I don't know if they still do this, but back in my parents generation, if you can't study (shitty grades or no motivation), they put you in trades programs immediately at a young age (say 16 y/o). University in HK is also hard to get in and quite expensive<--? While I don't condone the bad treatment of maids (I treat them like people when I stay at friends places), I just think that an issue that could be this important to a whole society should not be decided based on how people feel about how maids are seen in society and how some of them are treated badly. Regardless of how you feel about this issue, I think we can all recognize the sacrifices these maids are willing to give up in order to provide for their families is truly admirable. Many of them lose their husbands (b/c they cheat since many don't work and their wives can't visit them very regularly), yet they still think its worth it for the future of their children. |
They majority of maids are treated well, even if they weren't they would still be leaving that corrupt poor shit hole of a home country in droves because they make 10x more and live 10x better in HK. My family doesn't have filipino maids (ours are from the mainland), but if we did we'd treat them just like distant family, they do take care of the kids after all. There certainly needs to be a defined process for Filipino maids to become full permanent residents, it just can't be under the same process as it is for other immigrants. This is only fair as their entrance and work visa standards are different from a regular immigrant. |
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Whether you see it as exploitation or not, it happens everywhere. Anyone remember the $6 "training wage"? Yes, this can happen locally as well. I don't think its so much a matter of race, as I have known Philippino business men who bring over other philippinos as labour and paid the worker what I considered dirt. So it has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with human nature willing to use opportunities to their benefit. |
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