She knows exactly what shes doing. She isnt getting the attention she wants from her BF, and "Joe" is giving it to her. If she wanted to leave her BF, she would have. She has compromised. Joe MAY get somewhere with her, but I doubt it. In the end, if something happens, my money is on she feels guilty and runs back to her BF. She believes what she is doing is fine as she is not cheating on her BF. She probably knows "joe" likes her, or maybe shes one of those ignorant broads, and honestly has no clue what she is doing, and just honestly believes "Joe" has no feelings and they are JUST friends. Some women are fucking stupid. She is fucking stupid either way.

There tons of girls, go find another one, probably gonna end up better looking

Wtf I went thru what joe did LOL

This is what happened, I slept with sally and never mentioned it ever....
Sallys still with her bf..... I didn't try to cockblock but my cock said dw, we'll be fine

Ur choice joe, to risk or to not risk it
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are they fucking?

Maybe "Sally"'s boy friend is perfectly okay with her seeing other people.

Open relationships are FAR more common than most people realize.

just go for it. who cares about the other guy.
if she isnt going to fuck him, or be his gf. forget it. lol.



life is a war, vagina is your ammunition.

and the condom is a silencer :troll:

they are definitely not fucking, Joes seen this thread hahahahaha at the end of the day he doesnt really care if he gets it in or not he's okay with having her around as a friend or whatever, recent events he's made it pretty clear to her but she still keeps coming like nothings changed. bitches be crazy...i think iceman nailed it though!

So the plot thickened....
turns out shes broken up with her boyfriend recently, already making plans with joe to do couple things and seems genuinely not phased by the breakup :S

went to Vins flowers today to order flowers for the girls and joe came along and ended up sending out a bouquet of 12 pink roses to her workplace... thoughts? hahaha the older lady at the counter thought we were such creeps sending roses to multiple girls hahahahahaha

I would've said get off, get out ... but no sex? she didn't even put out?


it's actaully weird if any normal guy would even thought of a split second of staying in this situation

you don't have to be a gangster to do crazy shit. its also no protection from being killed either.

But Noir also skates around with his head down as he tries to deke out the defenders. :accepted:

This reminds me so much of my ex. It all started cause She was basically using me to get back at her cheating boyfriend (of 2+ years) who she was living with at the time. After a few months of back and forth BS they split up and it was just her and I. This girl was super hot, but she was super fucked up as I ended up learning. She was basically using me for everything, until I had enough of her and she just moved onto three other guys over the next three months that she began to use until she tried to get back with me. At this time I just used her for sex and got bored and just erased her from my life.

Remember any girl with daddy issues is bad news lol.

It's not much a stretch actually if the guy hasn't been laid in a long time and if he has self-esteem issues. The same situation is happening to a friend of mine, but he refuses to withdraw because he's either infatuated with her or because he doesn't approach other women.
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turns out they have started seeing eachother more "romantically" now. aka hes got it in hahaha

My wife refers to guys like these as the "40 year old virgin types".
They aren't use to talking to girls, let alone hot ones, so they love whatever attention they can get from them.

Been there. Except I didn't stick it out for more than 2 months.

It's in your friend's best interest to either: Get the fuck out. Or Take it reeaaal slow.
Chances of her relapsing back to her ex is pretty high unless the relationship ended badly.

They like each other, so taking it slow won't hurt anything. It give her time to figure out if she really likes your friend, or if she was just bored with her ex. They've had a chance to take their relationship to a romantic level now, so the figuring out part shouldn't be too hard. Joe might not even be the right guy for her.

But what your friend should be afraid of, is if she's gonna pull the same stunt again.

Yep, there are definitely many of these types of guys in Vancouver considering the large Asian population here. Let's face it: Asian guys aren't taught to go after what they want; they are taught to defer to authority and keep their heads down.
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Guess I'm different from most but I got lots of girl friends and see no issue with guys and girls bein friends. Some of my girl friends have boyfriends as well and there is no issue between any of us and some of these said girls and I while both single had sexual encounters and still no issues have arisen between me them or their boyfriends.
As such I have to ask what kind of "couples" activities are they doing that may be confusing the situation?

wow thats SO shady..
If her and your friend has been hanging out alot but she still hasnt said anything about her bf then her intentions are kinda fucked

tell ur friend ti back off before getting his ass kicked


seriously......

if someone wrecked my home. i go all out scarface on that dude
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It will be interesting to see if Sally does stay with her "live together" bf forever. That being said, your friend should avoid this girl like SARS.

There's plenty of ladies out there that are better than this Sally.

I agree.

Define "couple" activities.

There are 2 possibilities. One was described up top and the other is the current boyfriend isn't satisfying the emotional needs of the girlfriend, by doing things that make her feel like he cares/loves her ie. remembers little things about her, doesn't forget their anniversary and spend the day with his buddies, doesn't ignore her texts, instant messages or facebook posts but is obviously online cuz recently just tweeted or updated something on FB, introduces her as Sally my girlfriend instead of "my friend, Sally", doesn't just let girl friends spend the night and SHARE the bed with him, doesn't talk on the phone or go out for drives with a female friend after 11pm (more specifically 3am), listen to her, be interested in her life, not act single in front of ppl be it in real life or online, takes care of her when she's sick, doesn't blow her off for Mass Effect 3 (ok...maybe if he's been waiting months to get the game). Just stuff that makes her feel like she's wanted, that she IS the girlfriend and that she's not going to be treated like one of his friends or even less special treatment than friends. I know of situations where the boyfriend treated and cared for friends more than the girlfriend sometimes and she didn't feel emotionally wanted even though they've been together for years, one of my gfs recently told me her bf refuses to chat on the phone with her or do video calls with her cuz he's "not into that stuff" (they live 2 hours away from one another) and on a few occasions when she asked him what he's doing, he responds with "I'm on the phone with Jane or I'm i'm on a video chat with Stacy -.-". That usually leads to the gf finding it in other guy friends, most of the time friend-zoned guys (best type) or just a friend she jives well with (not so great cuz if the relationship goes south then suddenly you find her with that guy). Not cuz she's interested or wants to cheat or doesn't love her boyfriend, she just needs to feel validated that she is indeed the fun, loving person that her boyfriend fell for. It's also not cuz she's using Joe either, she just enjoys hanging out with him and it also gives her that emotional boost that she seeks. Sucks for Joe. Sucks for Sally too. But we can't really blame the boyfriend for not knowing how to emotionally satisfy Sally or is too lazy or selfish to satisfy her emotional needs. I actually see it in a lot of long term relationships/live-in relationships where the relationship gets stale and ppl are in a rut/ comfort stage and all they do is bicker, words aren't heard by either party and everything is just swept under the rug. Which is just a natural cycle of all relationships, but that's usually where all this shit starts.

Now what would be wrong is if the girl "Sally" has crossed that line with Joe. Meaning there is hand holding involved, flirting, never once mentioning the boyfriend when they hang out, teasing Joe in flirtatious ways, making sexual innuendos, inviting Joe to corporate, family parties and not the bf (unless the bf refuses to go, then that's a whole new problem). I always find not talking about the boyfriend a huge sign, cuz when a girl likes a guy, she can't shut up about him. There is the guy who you have a shoulder to cry on and then there's a guy where the bitch is playing with 2 men and leading one on, but those lines are never blurred, it is a very solid line to cross. You KNOW when a girl is treating you like a friend and when she's not. If you get even an inkling that she's flirting with you then there is issues in the current relationship she is in. Having said all this, there indeed are the girls who are attention whores and just loves the attention from all types of men even when in a relationship.

If your bro is alright being the floatation device, I guess he can keep going. But he should remember that he's a rebound. Things may not be what he wants in the end. Also if Sally is capable of doing such things to her current bf, she can do the exact same to Joe in the near future.

Sally definitely have issues and seems like a ticking time bomb. I'd be careful if I was your friend.

I don't normally post in this section but this needs to be said: Joe and Sally are both chumps. One for being a sucker and a pushover, the other for being a rat behind her boys back.

A good friend would grab Joe by the throat and lead him away with a life lesson learned. Them hanging out is just ruining his chances with someone that might be genuine, or at least getting laid for fucks sake. He obviously will not man up, so help him.